TBF, he doesn't really say the game is great, just that it brings it more in line to what we've been shown up until now.
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Cyberpunk 2077 Night City WIRE: Episode 5 |OT| Time moves in one direction, memory in another [Media Impressions, Console Footage & Discussion]
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TBF, he doesn't really say the game is great, just that it brings it more in line to what we've been shown up until now.
"THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT"
lol holy shit
imagine if a movie was coming out and there was issues with the director or production company engaging in anti trans behavior and people were actively discussing those anti trans practices
and then your clown ass said "I dont feel safe discussing Kung Pow 2 :( :("
lol holy shit
imagine if a movie was coming out and there was issues with the director or production company engaging in anti trans behavior and people were actively discussing those anti trans practices
and then your clown ass said "I dont feel safe discussing Kung Pow 2 :( :("
To you and all the people, who just want to talk about video games, why are you on resetera? Any other forum or reddit is exactly what you want and this forum
was created, at least to my knowledge, to be no that. For some time now people have been leaving and feel like if things go on as they are now, this will just end up as another video game forum.
From what we have been fast travel points aren't tied to metro and such stations, but can be placed where ever it has made sense for dev.
I don't think there are. Trophies have leaked and we know all of them except the hidden ones. The hidden ones are all probably story related. None of the known trophies are difficulty related.
Yep, my bad, I translated out of memory since I read the tweet earlier, I'll edit my post!
Can I just think of you as a really shitty troll instead?
Interesting - I hope that the subways factor in, in some way at least.
They're bound to be in a mission or 2 no doubt, also keen to see which of these missions you mantis blade up the side of a building (Miles Tost said this a while back, this isn't a leak don't freak out anyone lol).
Honestly I was going to reply to other posts...(guy calling me privileged without knowing shit about me while sitting here posting on a video game forum, I guess we are all privileged assholes buddy) but this makes the most sense, I'll request a ban.
Cripterion , since I notice that you were responding directly to the points I made in my post without including it as a quote, I'll add the quote that you missed. I'll bold the parts that you responded to to help a little more:
The issue isn't that you're going against the grain. The focus of my post is not to belittle the concerns of the vulnerable and make yourself as an equivalent victim. You proceeded to ignore that point and then immediately reframe yourself as the victim. I could steal you opening line very easily here.
I'm not even telling you that you're unwelcome, I'm telling you to grow up. Participate in these threads after you realize why what you're saying is wrong and trying to figure out what you should do differently.
The pang of your conscience is not someone else attacking you. It's you recognizing that what you're doing is reprehensible, regardless of whether or not you choose to allow yourself to recognize it. No one is obligated to make you feel good about doing things that aren't worthy of any sort of praise.
The issue isn't that you're going against the grain. The focus of my post is not to belittle the concerns of the vulnerable and make yourself as an equivalent victim. You proceeded to ignore that point and then immediately reframe yourself as the victim. I could steal you opening line very easily here.
I'm not even telling you that you're unwelcome, I'm telling you to grow up. Participate in these threads after you realize why what you're saying is wrong and trying to figure out what you should do differently.
The pang of your conscience is not someone else attacking you. It's you recognizing that what you're doing is reprehensible, regardless of whether or not you choose to allow yourself to recognize it. No one is obligated to make you feel good about doing things that aren't worthy of any sort of praise.
Great news if confirmed, this makes me even more excited about the game. Those patches are really going to improve the game A LOT
Why they wouldn't market store that is 100% owned by themselves? 🤔
To be fair, and this is 100% personal, overengineered, overly promotional OTs make me uncomfortable in the first place, because they really read like digital marketing.
This is made significantly worse in this case given the transphobia surrounding the developer and the game. Never mind that good guy CDPR is leaning into the awful trend of featuring influencers to blur lines between marketing and genuine opinions a bit more.
Which is all pretty ironic for a cyberpunk game.
Well, I know you're gone, but I'll just like to take the opportunity to point out that you've proven yourself to be someone who will reject every attempt to be mature and instead take the cowardly route to protect your fragile ego.
Considering how uncomfortable you were with what you were expressing - going by all of the ways that you tried to soften it - I suspect that you know that too.
The disc version is two months old, it's missing the last weeks of improvements.(they started printing in October 5th when it went gold)
What you are seeing now is the Xbox/PS versions unpatched, we don't know if the press has a patched version or not.
We don't know if the game at launch won't have issue, but there's still a day one patch coming up.
Afaik reviewers are playing with the pre-launch patch (which improves a lot), but without the D1 patch that it's coming in the following days
Ahhh of course, so what they're playing now is basically what the game was when it went gold. So we haven't actually seen the fruits of the 2 month delay development then. Cos man the game is so janky from the gifs so far. I wonder what footage the video reviews from publications will be from... since reviewers aren't playing with the day one patch.
If i have to guess reviewers will most likely play the game on PS5, XSX and PC.
Don't think a lot of them are going to review on base PS4 or One S.
Let's not be naive here, this place was created because there was suddenly a huge void in the market for gaming forums back in 2017 or whenever. I don't think Era is nonprofit or maybe I'm wrong?
I usually go Steam 100%, but if you purchased the PC Special Edition, you have to take GOG key. I'm all for DRM-free, but I don't usually use GOG, honestly.
I may even purchase a Steam version as well. Who knows?
Thiiiiis so much, like I know folks put their heart into it and all — but if they could take that same energy and apply to actual avenues of genuine discourse and facilitate conversations that mean something... but nah, let me act as a officially hired community manager/brand ambassador for said company.
Edit: I also agree the OT should be handed off given the natural of how things have been handled this far...
Anyone else buy the game at the CDKeys Black Friday GOG sale? Their keys don't reveal until release day....guess there's no preload for me! :/
I would hazard a guess that zero medium to large review outlets will be on base consoles.
I would hazard a guess that zero medium to large review outlets will be on base consoles.
Disagree. Era was created as a response to the owner of GAF having allegations of sexual misconduct, people deciding to leave, and to make a more inclusive forum for marginalised folks, in member and leadership positions. Hence why it wasn't just cis white hetero mods from the start of this forum. It wasn't created to fill some void, as there are plenty of other gaming forums still running.
I think what he's meaning is the general common trait most on Era possess (from that original migratory exodus in 2017) is a love of video games.
Some of us just wanted a place to stay. Honestly, the first batch of members didn't migrate straight to Era. We first went to discord for a while. We were split up into multiple discord servers depending on which OT you joined at the time. We were then invited to sign up to the new forum.
If you were just casually browsing in gaming side then you wouldn't even know of the issue back then. People just wanted to go where the others were. Everything happened so fast that we just wanted a place where we can discuss peacefully again.We weren't exactly advocating for anything at the start. That came much later when Era stabilized and the members were at a healthy enough of a number.
Oh as am I lol, but as someone who was on GAF since 2011, I don't think Era was created to fill a void in forums but that people being banned en masse and leaving wanted a place that was for gamers of all ilks.
There was also this weird early... I want to say disinformation campaign, where you started off with people saying "we migrated to Era so that it would be more inclusive" followed by people going "we migrated to Era so that the moderation wouldn't be so quick to ban us".
Yeah i'm considering cancelling my pre-order and spending a few extra quid for a steam version. Didn't realise at the time it was a GOG edition when I pre-ordered from there.
Wow, cool future!In the future, you use telekinesis to eat food?
Some trans people don't need cis acceptance to be happy, so it is a valid question.
I assume Black Chamber's rather crummy response post-thread lock had to deal with whoever they are having firm guidance on how to address the transphobic issues. The way the Black Chamber account addresses the game and people posting in this thread are shockingly artificial. It has to be a PR agency-ran account and I say this coming from an advertising strategy background.
Yeah I successfully managed it the other day. I was using the beta app. Got the game installed on my hard drive ahead of Thursday.
in the future future food will directly be teleported to the toiletIn the future, you use telekinesis to eat food?
Yeah I got time today....
What a pathetic situation overall. I've been monitoring and watching it slowly devolve into the shitshow that's currently taking place over this game on this forum and it's nothing short of embarrassing.
I've been listening and reading and now I'm ready to speak.
There was nothing difficult about finding a solution to the origin of this fallout. The problem is that some of you just don't fucking care. Everyone involved would have a much easier time if the actors involved would just admit that instead of putting on this fake as fuck "ally" mask charade and then turning it to a victim complex.
It's annoying as hell because the solutions were so easy, the fact people listed them in this thread proves it didn't take a speck of brain power to come up with them, just an ounce of actually giving a damn.
1. Start the OT thread with a "A Word from Kyujii/TransERA. You already reserve posts in the an OT thread to set up your graphic formatting, right?
Oh so you have space.. put a goddamn forward to frame the situation. If you can't write it, someone from TransERA would have no problems doing that for you. Add a link that goes back to Kyujiis thread for reference. This is completed in one fucking PM
2. Ask a mod to add a Staff Comm with a brief detail that can link back to the OT Forward and Kyujiis Thread. This is completed in one fucking PM
What is so damn difficult about that? Why could it not be agreed to on the first ask? That's why this all blew up, because it was the most basic bottom line olive branch one could do and it was met with political non answer bullshit. That shows character and intent. It's clear as day that something so small bothered Chamber so much, but yet some wanna come after the fact and say this was always the plan.
Theres 0 reason why it couldnt be agreed to in public outside of just lack of interest. It's a goddamn Video Game OT, not some NDA contract with barred info till release day like BC wants to pretend it is.
And then people want to parade his "effort" like it's some hard job requiring sacrifice. Get real. You're a fan on a forum like the rest of us.
CDPR isn't over Chamber's shoulder beating him with a stick to make a hype train. Let alone the fact that if he didn't do it, it's not like it would never exist seeing this is one of the biggest releases in a long time for the industry. He chose to do this on his own. And the reality is, he chose to do it for a game in which both the game and the developers have a shit track record towards TransFolk. You can't just ignore that. It's baked into the product. So I'm not understanding why the thought process is "La La La, I wanna enjoy the game"
The game marginalizes and exploits Transpeople for its setting. This shit doesn't exist in a bubble. Far too many people base their shitty worldviews off media they consume, and damaging portrayals of TransPeople only helps to further that marginalization and discrimination they already face.
It doesn't even make sense from a self preservation angle. This game will be parsed through with a fine tooth comb. If there are more examples of Transphobia or even Racism.. this little nerd party definitely won't have a pot to piss in nor a leg to stand on in regards to criticism. (One could argue they already don't)
Why in the hell would you not try to jump in front it? Why not acknowledge the problems that are there and pledge to create a dialogue to counter those issues? That's why this shit blew up, because some just dont fucking care
The victim complex being developed over this is fucking laughable.
"I wanna enjoy the game!"
You already are and it's not even out yet. You comb every fucking site for every speck and crumb of information for this game. You watch every video. You joined your CP Discord server (which that's where y'all will be during the Launch Day OT Ban, you're most likely complaining about this situation now in there) You preordered the Collectors Edition, You preloaded the game. You will obsess over the Review Scores, and whine endlessly about outlets that score low...
Where the fuck are you not enjoying the game?
Oh, it's when People remind you about CDPRs shitty behavior and conduct, that's when you feel not allowed to enjoy the game.
What a fucking joke, that's transphobic as fuck to even dare make that statement. To even try to simulate oppression over being reminded that a video game you enjoy has shitty hurtful elements.
So many posters in this thread come across as baby shit soft. TransFolk live their lives on a daily basis with constant threats of outright Violence and Murder, Fetishization, Lack of Access to Medical Care, Discrimination, Ostracization not just from greater society but their own racial groups even. Quite simply damn near hated by everyone..
but y'all have the gall to whine about your entertainment being ruined over a real discussion?
A lot of you clearly wouldn't last a fucking day in the life of a transgender person.
Im not Trans. I don't have to be to fucking give a shit about their plight. I don't subscribe to this "ally" bullshit y'all love so much. I'm a part of the fight. I'm a part of the struggle for TransPeople to be seen and heard. I listen when I need to listen, I will speak when I need to speak. I don't talk over or talk for TransPeople, I echo them. And if one day I ever get it wrong, I will damn well make sure I don't ever make that fucking mistake again.
My only suggestion to TransERA, if anything, is that they are being TOO NICE. They spoke too obvious off site trolls at face value and good faith. They have constantly controlled their language to make the discussion more tolerable. They reached their hand out and some of you spat in it. You actually tried to take them for fools. And some of you had the fucking nerve to even go ahead and try to tone police them further. Absolutely utter bullshit.
I'm incensed over this shit, I hate seeing bigotry and the apathy over it with every fiber of my being. It's this lack of giving a fuck that leads to these situations in the first place. And the Gaming "Community" is full of this shit.
Gaming is not a little white boys club anymore (it never was). The industry and its patrons will continue to become more and more diverse. If studios and game products don't want to account for that, expect more "criticism" and "outrage". That "duck your head and stay in your lan bullshit is over. People will speak out. This entire forum is based off that concept but clearly for some it's a pick and choose thing. Y'all wanna scream about game pricing and dlc controversies, but bury your head in the sand over shit that affects real people
Fuck all of that.
It's situations like this that make people not want to associate with being a "Gamer". There's just too many people who portray themselves with infantile understanding, obsessive consumerism and absolute lack of empathy to make any association with that word appealing.
When will y'all actually mature into adults? Call me when that happens
Everyone is welcome to do so 💯
What a pathetic situation overall. I've been monitoring and watching it slowly devolve into the shitshow that's currently taking place over this game on this forum and it's nothing short of embarrassing.
I've been listening and reading and now I'm ready to speak.
There was nothing difficult about finding a solution to the origin of this fallout. The problem is that some of you just don't fucking care. Everyone involved would have a much easier time if the actors involved would just admit that instead of putting on this fake as fuck "ally" mask charade and then turning it to a victim complex.
It's annoying as hell because the solutions were so easy, the fact people listed them in this thread proves it didn't take a speck of brain power to come up with them, just an ounce of actually giving a damn.
1. Start the OT thread with a "A Word from Kyujii/TransERA. You already reserve posts in the an OT thread to set up your graphic formatting, right?
Oh so you have space.. put a goddamn forward to frame the situation. If you can't write it, someone from TransERA would have no problems doing that for you. Add a link that goes back to Kyujiis thread for reference. This is completed in one fucking PM
2. Ask a mod to add a Staff Comm with a brief detail that can link back to the OT Forward and Kyujiis Thread. This is completed in one fucking PM
What is so damn difficult about that? Why could it not be agreed to on the first ask? That's why this all blew up, because it was the most basic bottom line olive branch one could do and it was met with political non answer bullshit. That shows character and intent. It's clear as day that something so small bothered Chamber so much, but yet some wanna come after the fact and say this was always the plan.
Theres 0 reason why it couldnt be agreed to in public outside of just lack of interest. It's a goddamn Video Game OT, not some NDA contract with barred info till release day like BC wants to pretend it is.
And then people want to parade his "effort" like it's some hard job requiring sacrifice. Get real. You're a fan on a forum like the rest of us.
CDPR isn't over Chamber's shoulder beating him with a stick to make a hype train. Let alone the fact that if he didn't do it, it's not like it would never exist seeing this is one of the biggest releases in a long time for the industry. He chose to do this on his own. And the reality is, he chose to do it for a game in which both the game and the developers have a shit track record towards TransFolk. You can't just ignore that. It's baked into the product. So I'm not understanding why the thought process is "La La La, I wanna enjoy the game"
The game marginalizes and exploits Transpeople for its setting. This shit doesn't exist in a bubble. Far too many people base their shitty worldviews off media they consume, and damaging portrayals of TransPeople only helps to further that marginalization and discrimination they already face.
It doesn't even make sense from a self preservation angle. This game will be parsed through with a fine tooth comb. If there are more examples of Transphobia or even Racism.. this little nerd party definitely won't have a pot to piss in nor a leg to stand on in regards to criticism. (One could argue they already don't)
Why in the hell would you not try to jump in front it? Why not acknowledge the problems that are there and pledge to create a dialogue to counter those issues? That's why this shit blew up, because some just dont fucking care
The victim complex being developed over this is fucking laughable.
"I wanna enjoy the game!"
You already are and it's not even out yet. You comb every fucking site for every speck and crumb of information for this game. You watch every video. You joined your CP Discord server (which that's where y'all will be during the Launch Day OT Ban, you're most likely complaining about this situation now in there) You preordered the Collectors Edition, You preloaded the game. You will obsess over the Review Scores, and whine endlessly about outlets that score low...
Where the fuck are you not enjoying the game?
Oh, it's when People remind you about CDPRs shitty behavior and conduct, that's when you feel not allowed to enjoy the game.
What a fucking joke, that's transphobic as fuck to even dare make that statement. To even try to simulate oppression over being reminded that a video game you enjoy has shitty hurtful elements.
So many posters in this thread come across as baby shit soft. TransFolk live their lives on a daily basis with constant threats of outright Violence and Murder, Fetishization, Lack of Access to Medical Care, Discrimination, Ostracization not just from greater society but their own racial groups even. Quite simply damn near hated by everyone..
but y'all have the gall to whine about your entertainment being ruined over a real discussion?
A lot of you clearly wouldn't last a fucking day in the life of a transgender person.
Im not Trans. I don't have to be to fucking give a shit about their plight. I don't subscribe to this "ally" bullshit y'all love so much. I'm a part of the fight. I'm a part of the struggle for TransPeople to be seen and heard. I listen when I need to listen, I will speak when I need to speak. I don't talk over or talk for TransPeople, I echo them. And if one day I ever get it wrong, I will damn well make sure I don't ever make that fucking mistake again.
My only suggestion to TransERA, if anything, is that they are being TOO NICE. They spoke too obvious off site trolls at face value and good faith. They have constantly controlled their language to make the discussion more tolerable. They reached their hand out and some of you spat in it. You actually tried to take them for fools. And some of you had the fucking nerve to even go ahead and try to tone police them further. Absolutely utter bullshit.
I'm incensed over this shit, I hate seeing bigotry and the apathy over it with every fiber of my being. It's this lack of giving a fuck that leads to these situations in the first place. And the Gaming "Community" is full of this shit.
Gaming is not a little white boys club anymore (it never was). The industry and its patrons will continue to become more and more diverse. If studios and game products don't want to account for that, expect more "criticism" and "outrage". That "duck your head and stay in your lan bullshit is over. People will speak out. This entire forum is based off that concept but clearly for some it's a pick and choose thing. Y'all wanna scream about game pricing and dlc controversies, but bury your head in the sand over shit that affects real people
Fuck all of that.
It's situations like this that make people not want to associate with being a "Gamer". There's just too many people who portray themselves with infantile understanding, obsessive consumerism and absolute lack of empathy to make any association with that word appealing.
When will y'all actually mature into adults? Call me when that happens
Everyone is welcome to do so 💯
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