This is very interesting and shows what they said about wanting to incorporate a gender-fluid character creator actually happening.
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Cyberpunk 2077 Now Has No Gendered Options, CD Projekt Red Say They Want to Make Cyberpunk 2077 Inclusive, Something That Everybody Is Okay With
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This is very interesting and shows what they said about wanting to incorporate a gender-fluid character creator actually happening.
Video game writers defaulting to "if the player is playing as a woman have the bad guys call her a whore and bitch constantly" school of incredibly unimaginative writing was always cringeworthy so it's good that CDPR is avoiding that here. Especially considering that TW3 was an example of that.
This is a FP game, everything about it is designed around first person.
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Indeed. I feel like this was always the plan from the beginning.
That's fucking awesome. Should've put that one in the title, no one reads the OPs, however short they are :P
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They / them are easy replacements.
edit: or are you talking about not having to record for her/him separate?
That was my first thought as well. Since it likely won't get dubs to most languages maybe changing the text is easier.
Good news on the voice. Now hope they follow through on the more nuanced themes past the character creator.
Edit: clarified below - old build
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Nope. I expect it to be from mods, and the mods will probably only be good if they give animations to the character. They're pretty firm on their vision for a first person game.
In the screenshot there's a binary male/female, has this changed or can you just deselect one?
Good news on the voice, just surprised to see that in the screenshot considering the context.
That' from the last year's 48 minute demo
Anyway, this is going to be a translation nightmare for people who are going to translate the game into Slavic languages
As much as i hate the transphobic tweets and the info that implies that working in CDPR is an absolute hell...this is huge.
It might be difficult to grasp but not having to pick your gender and instead picking body parts is something incredible
I dont know if i will support this game or not but they are welcome to continue trying.
(Maybe i'll just buy it used)
It might be difficult to grasp but not having to pick your gender and instead picking body parts is something incredible
I dont know if i will support this game or not but they are welcome to continue trying.
(Maybe i'll just buy it used)
I dig this a lot. Inclusive language is always welcomed. Even as a cis dude I appreciate the effort tremendously.
It has surely changed, we know you no longer choose a "childhood hero" since they're only doing Johnny SilverhandIn the screenshot there's a binary male/female, has this changed or can you just deselect one?
Good news on the voice, just surprised to see that in the screenshot considering the context.
I think that is from last years demo, it might have changed since then.In the screenshot there's a binary male/female, has this changed or can you just deselect one?
Good news on the voice, just surprised to see that in the screenshot considering the context.
In many way that is true, it to the degree where Fire emblem three house is kinda able to have bisexual characters is having the dialogue be natural enough. even when certain elements of characters interactions outside of MC are more heteronormative. That said the fact that they are going this far is pleasing enough since I was going to play my Cyberpunk character to be non-binary at a certain point in the game.
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That's from the demo last year lol, I wanted to show that this isn't how it's gonna look anymore. Guess I'll put a disclaimer of that in the OP.In the screenshot there's a binary male/female, has this changed or would you just deselect one? I know it's a WIP, just surprised to see that in the screenshot considering the context.
Good news on the voice. Now hope they follow through on the more nuanced themes past the character creator.
Screenshot is from the old demo. Now you only choose body type, instead of "Male or Female" and aparently you can mix it up to create the look you want.In the screenshot there's a binary male/female, has this changed or can you just deselect one?
Good news on the voice, just surprised to see that in the screenshot considering the context.
Great stuff, appreciate the clarity. This is good to see, and glad they're actively reaching out on it. Hope they go further into how they're tackling the themes post-character creator before release.
I'm positive that's the old build from the original gameplay walk through they did. Most likely we'll finally see an updated one in the future.In the screenshot there's a binary male/female, has this changed or would you just deselect one? I know it's a WIP, just surprised to see that in the screenshot considering the context.
Good news on the voice. Now hope they follow through on the more nuanced themes past the character creator.
Why put the thing about gendered speech in the thread title? The original article doesn't seem to mention it and it looks to be your interpretation, not a confirmed fact. Then again, if you can't select male or female I suppose the game would have no way of knowing which you are. It's actually inclusive and efficient at the same time because it saves you from having to record the same lines multiple ways.
"God damn CDPR bending the knee to Resetera SJWs. They don't play games and won't be happy until the game becomes a walking simulator".
Colour me surprised in very good way and perhaps equally more incensed at their marketing department's banality when it comes the boxart.
Good to rip this bandaid off now before the usual crew can review-brigade it.
Hopefully, it's an indicator that they're striving for deeper thematic terrain than the surface-level cyberpunk aesthetic.
Hopefully, it's an indicator that they're striving for deeper thematic terrain than the surface-level cyberpunk aesthetic.
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You're right. I may have jumped the gun. Will request a thread title change.
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It'd rather those resources go toward other things, as this is an ambitious game with a finite development time and budget. Let's take animation for example, the animation is all made with a FP perspective in mind.
You just summed up every game in existence. Anyway, I don't want to de-rail the thread.
Interesting. I hope they actually stick the landing with this, but because this change seems to have been implemented rather late, I wonder if they actually removed all gendered language, or if there will still be lines that refer to you as male if you chose the male body type or as female with the female body type. Surely there were already a lot of lines recorded with gendered language, no?
I've had to upgrade my hype limiters about nine times with this game. If I can play it without feeling like shit because of cheap shots like Chromanticore peppered in it, as a result of those themes being balanced with a nuanced story and take on gender within the game (which things like this really give hope to), then fuckin' rad. Which is why I hope they do some dive into it before release, to at least reassure that we're not stopping at the character creator.
Game has some of the best art direction this generation, and looks phenomenal in most other aspects. It's irritating for it to be the one I've had to hold off on slapping a preorder down for and jumping into the mix in hype threads.
Things like this make strides though. It'd be a huge breath of fresh air to hit that proposed character creator. Having such a prominent massively-anticipated game - especially within the 'less pleasant gamer' crowd - challenge these things head on unashamedly is deserved of praise outside of any residual scepticism I have. Kudos.
Stark contrast to the trash over at 3D Realms and Voidpoint, insofar as recent events are concerned.
Game has some of the best art direction this generation, and looks phenomenal in most other aspects. It's irritating for it to be the one I've had to hold off on slapping a preorder down for and jumping into the mix in hype threads.
Things like this make strides though. It'd be a huge breath of fresh air to hit that proposed character creator. Having such a prominent massively-anticipated game - especially within the 'less pleasant gamer' crowd - challenge these things head on unashamedly is deserved of praise outside of any residual scepticism I have. Kudos.
Stark contrast to the trash over at 3D Realms and Voidpoint, insofar as recent events are concerned.
They will also have to remove all gendered language - which I suspect they would have done, because it's taken months for them to reach this decision.
More games should open up their character creation settings, like this Saints Row 3/4 still have the most progressive character creators. They let you do choose/wear anything, and have a ton of voices to match.
More games should open up their character creation settings, like this Saints Row 3/4 still have the most progressive character creators. They let you do choose/wear anything, and have a ton of voices to match.
This is good to know and certainly a welcome change as far as RPGs are concerned, cyberpunk or not.
Still waiting to see how they will handle LGBT people in the game, specially after that in-game ad, but this makes me see the game in a slightly more positive light.
Still waiting to see how they will handle LGBT people in the game, specially after that in-game ad, but this makes me see the game in a slightly more positive light.
Sadly, I fully expect this becomes a real post somewhere in the very near future.