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David Jaffe revealed one of the cancelled games Bartlet Jones designed.
- Thread starter Captain of Outer Space
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Aw man these sketches look really cool. I'm imaging something like the canceled EA Chicago Marvel 3rd person fighter
This seems like baffling business sense at best. Wouldn't you want to cash in on the super hero trend?
Damn, sounds great.
Really want that game or one like it to exist.
The other video he did with art and the pitch was great. It's in the other thread. Don't have a link, as I'm on mobile, commuting, but it's worth watching.
It's possible they had some inside info on what Crystal Dynamics was working on.
Obviously wasn't a press release, but mentioned it on an investor call or something to that effect.
Man this dude has so much charisma, but i can't help but feel like he's so anachronistic these days. Such a weird feeling.
I just don't think that concept would have resonated or gone anywhere. Good decision to cancel it.
I didn't hate Drawn to Death. At least he didn't make as many headlines as Cliffy.
The might of Marvel and their brand is enough to scare people off
Never played the game, nothing against the guy; I just couldn't help making a corny joke.
Have you seen Drawn To Death? The visuals? The content? The netcode? What do you think is the best case scenario for their take on the MOBA with flying/verticality?
A small studio should not be going against MOBAs, Diablo or Superhero IPs. They should have figured out a game which was suitable for their studio capabilities.
I think that'll be the next big thing. Something like Overwatch BR where your character has unique powers.
Wonder if this came before or after DtD. That game was also essentially a character action TM so they could have shared a lot of DNA.
None of that is reason enough to abandon the concept just because it's superheroes. Should no one make a superhero themed game ever again because a Marvel game is being made? No, that would be stupid
Those are good reasons to abandon a superhero MOBA with flying concept because:
• Your studio cannot compete with other games in the quality side if we look at Drawn To Death.
• Your studio is making a game which is going to compete with other MOBA games for the spot in the graveyard
• You have no IP to work with, which makes it much harder to market, and creates a ton of concept/character building. When people remember Lawbreakers, everyone always contrasts the characters/world of that game with successful ones like Overwatch. Turns out that it is actually hard and expensive to build appealing characters.
And when I say a graveyard, I mean the ever growing pit of unsuccessful MOBA games like Infinite Crisis, Paragon, Breakaway or Gigantic.
Both Marvel and DC had unsuccessful super-hero games. Even with marketing, budget and IP there is no guarantee for success when it comes to online PC games. Studios should evaluate their own capabilities before embarking on competing with both MOBAs and successful superhero IPs at the same time.
Bizarre that people can get invested about games they never played
While I agree that there is no evidence that this game would have turned out any better than Drawn to Death, I'm not sure you should lump it in with failed MOBA projects. In another tweet Jaffe mentions that Gundam Vs. was one of the inspirations for this game, so it was probably closer to an Arena Fighter than a MOBA.
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I'm not sure where you are getting the idea it was a MOBA. Seems like it was way more similar to arena fighters or third person action games.
What's he doing these days anyways? Last I remember was some indie mp thing that people here hated.
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the man due to fond childhood memories of Twisted Metal, but yeah honestly it's been a while since I can remember playing a game he was involved with.
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the man due to fond childhood memories of Twisted Metal, but yeah honestly it's been a while since I can remember playing a game he was involved with.