Deadline: How ‘Birds Of Prey’ Went Astray With $33M+ Opening aka Blackhawk down.
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I doubt that would go over well. People also liked Will Smith and Captain Boomerang. Especially Will Smith was praised a lot.
Honestly, based on the little marketing I've seen, I thought this was a TV show or something for their streaming service. I had no idea it was getting g a theatrical release.
Can't believe people didn't want to see a spin off of one of Most disappointing comic book movies produced in the last twenty years
Worst DC opening since damn Jonah Hex. Wow.
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Me too. Not that competition has been super fierce, but personally it edged past WW and Shazam
LMFAO
It is Harley centric. Most of the others are secondary to Harley (and Huntress doesn't even matter at all).
The trailers looked awful, but I'm aware that I'm not the market for most comic book movies at this point. That being said, I dug Margot in SS enough. I'll watch this but I had no clue it was close to release last week.
The R rating surely doesn't help, if you're gonna go that route you really need to nail the campaign.
The R rating surely doesn't help, if you're gonna go that route you really need to nail the campaign.
A lot of them either get bad marketing or are bad movies if those 2 are the only recent ones to do extremely well.
Exatcly.
Just left the theater. Incredible! Such a good movie.
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Joker is a murdering psychopath with almost 75 years of cultural cache, Harley Quinn is a meme in booty shorts. It's WB folk for not growing her beyond that in tv/film. Not like they couldn't do that. WW was invisible jets and twirling until No Man's LandI think there is more nuance, to be fair.
A character like Joker is by his nature a murdering psychopath whose existence is driven by committing murders and crime. At his tamest, he's still a remorseless criminal who tries to murder his superhero nemesis. An R-rating for a movie about him makes sense.
But if you were to slap an R-rating on, say, Shazam or Aquaman? That wouldn't make sense. An R-rating WOULD be a barrier because a majority of their fanbase and audience would skew younger.
And in that regard, Harley DOES skew younger. She's more popular with younger kids and teenagers. There's a reason she's part of the Superhero Girls line-up.
Even on exit polling for THIS MOVIE, the most positive response has been from the teenage girl audience, so clearly that R-rating is a barrier for what's probably her heaviest demographic.
Not saying you can't do an R-rated Harley movie (hell, there's a great mature Harley comic on shelves right now, and the Harley WB show is REALLY adult), but they misread the room and thought because she's the closest thing they have to Deadpool, and is Joker-adjacent, they could just make her R-rated and it wouldn't matter.
Looks like it did, in this case.
It's strange. I was super excited for the Harley Quinn cartoon that just came out and I love that, but I have very little interest in this movie. I didn't even know it was out until I saw this thread. I blame the Suicide Squad smell.
Ouch. I actually saw Jonah Hex in theaters, and it's probably the worst movie I've seen in theaters.
Just came out and it's fine, miles better than Suicide Squad, and i welcome the R rating, but it wasn't really needed tbh and it's really gonna hurt them in the long run. shame because out of all the female supes with female directors, i think this was the most daring by far
Honestly? I've heard almost nothing about this movie. If not for the Era thread I would not have known it exists. It seems to me from a marketing perspective that this movie was sent out to die. Starved of a proper marketing campaign. Compounded by its R rating.
Question for those who have seen it: One of the few negatives I heard about this was the other characters aside from Black Mask and Harley were a little unneeded and didn't bring much to the film. Was that true?
I only remembered Harley Quinn, but forgot the title. When my friend took me to see it, I legit thought we were going to Suicide Squad 2 lol.
lmao man this film really is doa. I'll watch it when its out on digital.
Such a good movie. Incredible fight scenes and outstanding cinematography. I was especially impressed with Black Canary's interpretation. Bad ass!
Knives out did start with a bleak reception. Word of mouth gave it strong legs.
Couple of reasons why BOP is in this situation : DC's brand is still tied to Zack Snyder, the same Harley from the terrible Suicide squad film and lack of an actual DC cinematic universe.
First two are pretty self explanatory but the last one is an bigger deal then people believe. Unless your big, household name like Joker or Venom it's just to get over in the comic book genre without an establish Universe propping you up.
First two are pretty self explanatory but the last one is an bigger deal then people believe. Unless your big, household name like Joker or Venom it's just to get over in the comic book genre without an establish Universe propping you up.
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You think it's a shame that a movie you haven't seen yet can't find success?
I think there's some truth to all this, but Aquaman's performance shows that they can break past these barriers with the right movie/marketing.
Marketing was bad, trailers were bad, should've either made it seem like a proper ensemble film that didn't look like Suicide Squad or just called it Harley Quinn and focused completely on her
the middle ground sucked
the middle ground sucked
Even knowing who the Birds of Prey are, from the advertising I would probably have missed they were even in this movie if not for the title itself. It's been positioned as a Harley Quinn movie from the start.
You really overestimate how close the general public follows that stuff. This thread alone is full of people that didn't even know it was out yet- or that it was rated R. They aren't keeping up with who's behind the movie. They get their impressions from the trailers and posters.
Harley always seems like a character that DC cares more about than the fanbase does. Like she's incredibly popular with cosplayers, but beyond that I don't really see a lot of love for her.
Focusing the entire movie around her never seemed like the best call considering how mostly hated Suicide Squad was.
Yeah I shared the RT in a group chat and some were shocked a Harley Quinn movie was opening.
