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Delicious in Dungeon (Dungeon Meshi) Netflix Anime |OT| No Manga Spoilers
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How does everyone view Shuro? A sizable part of the manga readership hasn't been too hot on him as a person after this part in the manga.
For me, I understand all the arguments in his defense and everything, I think those arguments are largely correct, but on a personal level the things he said really kinda piss me off.
Can't help it.
For me, I understand all the arguments in his defense and everything, I think those arguments are largely correct, but on a personal level the things he said really kinda piss me off.
Can't help it.
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Yeah, it is a bit hilarious when you realize that for all his shouting about Laios' crew not taking things seriously, he himself did jackshit lmao
He spent all his rizz zandatsuing a sea snake (well after his retainers beat it up)
I do get Shuro in some way, especially in hearing that the love of your life (at least for him) has been what would be the equivalent of frankenstein'd on and then turned into an Eldritch Monstrosity, and the people responsible are acting like "oopsie i did a fucky wucky" (in addition to participating in what would be considered in-universe as incredibly dubious activities). I feel bad for Marcille, but I also don't begrudge at all the others to absolutely not want to trust her.
On the other hand, my man basically bailed on his "true love", only to come back and act incredibly irresponsibly himself as Laios pointed out. And that just means he would've probably failed even harder.
On the other hand, my man basically bailed on his "true love", only to come back and act incredibly irresponsibly himself as Laios pointed out. And that just means he would've probably failed even harder.
He went to gather his retainers and mount a separate rescue mission.. which actually pisses me off when I think about it.
Why the fuck would he not mention his plans to Laios and Marcille? Why not tell them "I'll go get my retainers and supplies real quick, let's go rescue Falin", instead of just bailing on them altogether?
Because he doesn't like Lauos and Marcille without Falin around?
Pretty much, lmao. His biggest flaw is probably that he has main character syndrome (or also plainly, just trust issues). That whole sibling fight between him and Laios was so good for that too.
The trust thing could be slightly justified concerning Laios when you think about that he will sometimes do rash things that can put others in jeopardy, although they are pretty minor all things considered (not telling about his sword is probably the biggest blemish against his current party)
The trust thing could be slightly justified concerning Laios when you think about that he will sometimes do rash things that can put others in jeopardy, although they are pretty minor all things considered (not telling about his sword is probably the biggest blemish against his current party)
He didn't realise Falin was missing when they first teleported back to the surface, and by the time he found out Laios's group had already gone back in.
That can't be right, he fucked off before laois even woke up
Yes and Marcille's flashback shows her invoking Falin to him and Namari as they were leaving the party.
the manga gives you a couple more brief flashbacks and a little more context for kabru's, uh. distaste for the party's methods, let's say. but he is also meant to be hard to get an accurate read on! he's serving as a foil for laios and as a social chameleon, who is very interested in people and how they think and affect things.
Yep I always read as his dislike of Laios making him act alone. He also probably blamed Laios at the moment for what happened to Falin
Another funny thing is that Falin were to miraculously turn back to normal and magically be there to hear the things Shuro was saying it would have gone bad for him.
" I will kill you Laios and then hand Marcille over to the authorities"
She'd pull out her morning star on him.
" I will kill you Laios and then hand Marcille over to the authorities"
She'd pull out her morning star on him.
i'm pretty neutral on him, in all honesty. sure, i hate being around people who would prefer to stew in resentment rather than be direct about an issue, but i understand that there's cultural context for his behavior--and, tbh, i feel like his early interactions with laios as outlined in the manga were at least semi-autobiographical for kui. there's a lot of frustration there.
he's a guy who's a bit myopic and self-centered and has difficulty honoring the connections he has with other people even if he does care about them, which is why the narrative won't let him succeed. dungeon meshi is about nourishing those around you as well as yourself. and i think the story needs a guy like that to contrast against the touden party.
Falin only real friend is Marcille too she was awkward in school and Marcell basically had to follow her to a dungeon to like herOne of my favourite moments from the manga, being adapted so wonderfully in the show, is triggering something in my 30-something Autistic brain being all too relatable of a neuroSpicy experience.
It's sad, because as others have probably mentioned, Falin is so similar to Laios in that department and Shuro totally overlooks it because of her plumage.
They're the same person
To slander Shuro some more, I think he is in love with an idealized, romanticized version of Falin he has in his head, not the actual person.
Kabru wouldn't hesitate as soon as he showed neck Laios would be bleeding on the floor lol
Seems like it because there's absolutely no reason not to wait for Laios to wake up or at least tell Marcille I'll be back in like a day or 2 (it doesn't seem it took him look but maybe it was because shuro didn't sleep and eat and speed-up the dungeon) and get more people
Straight up Shuro seems kinda self centered in a way
Kabru is what we call a try-hard, he almost killed laios over some fuckin eggs
He's waiting for an answer for his proposal. Laios has, from his horizon, been in the way when trying to go out and eat alone with Falin and other dating attempts. (That surely Falin could and would have acted upon if she really wanted some alone time with Shuro)
So Shuro thinks it's best to just cut him out, and make himself the hero. Not that I think that Falin would be too impressed to learn that her brother was left alone in his struggles.
Or so I speculate.
Yeah, that's the best (worst?) thing of it all, Shuro has a idealized version of Falin that doesn't really exist, and the only two people that know it are Laios and Marcille.
It's a shame, because it seems he was taught to do things that way from his childhood, or at least that's what I've gathered.
I never took that interaction as Shuro disliking Laios, more like he dislikes that he likes him, because he is everything he was taught not to be, but that he clearly craves: openness, eagerness, straightforwardness and naive wholehearted trust, all of it traits that his culture taught him to suppress. And that goes double for the trust, this is a world where backstabbing is not just common, its somewhat expected.
Like you see their parting words and its clear they are good friends, just sometimes you gotta punch it out.
Like you see their parting words and its clear they are good friends, just sometimes you gotta punch it out.
He's a noble from basically feudal Japan
He pretty much doesn't have the tools to deal with Laios
It's funny that his Nanny (or whatever you actually call her) knows this
His father's mistress
That info is just in the bonus content, but yeah, his married man of a father is having an affair with his nanny.
Kinda tells you what kind of person his dad is.
Also, I know Falin breasted boobily on the landing, but i think if you weren't wearing a bra (which Falin wasn't, because she just had one of Laois' spare shirts) and you still had breasts that's probably what actually would happen, so in that sense I get it.
it did sort of detract from her ballerina landing though
re shuro and the touden siblings minor adventure's guide omake spoiler it is so fucking funny in the genderswap one when if shuro gets genderswapped she would start crushing on laois instead
also fem!kabru buttering up laois
it did sort of detract from her ballerina landing though
re shuro and the touden siblings minor adventure's guide omake spoiler it is so fucking funny in the genderswap one when if shuro gets genderswapped she would start crushing on laois instead
also fem!kabru buttering up laois
Glad Shuro got taught.
And I still have zero trust in Kabru. Getting big "Top 10 Anime Betrayal" energy from him later in the series.
Remember folks, you gotta eat, you gotta sleep. Can't take care of other people if you don't take care of yourself.
And I still have zero trust in Kabru. Getting big "Top 10 Anime Betrayal" energy from him later in the series.
Remember folks, you gotta eat, you gotta sleep. Can't take care of other people if you don't take care of yourself.
Marcille would smack the shit out of him before the thought enters his mind
You check the objectivity box when you get enough food and sleep. The rest is fair game.
Haven't read the manga but this makes too much sense considering how he is with Falin who's just femlaios
I think Shuro's got communication issues just like Laois. If you just go with the show/story proper, it doesn't come off as that much. Maybe just him trying to be nice, and then reaching a boiling point with the Falin incident, but the extras paint him as not being able to really talk to anyone that isn't part of his retainers. Maybe its supposed to be culture shock, but he just roles with Laois mishearing his name, and so everyone else thinks its Shuro as well. And there's also that bit about Marcille's predecessor, the marriage seeker, who Chichuck and Namari want out of the party, and they just drag Shuro in there as backup regardless of whatever his opinion is about her. He just gets pushed around all the time by anyone who wasn't trained to be his servant. So given the context of the extras it does make it more clear why Shuro is envious of Laois being able to just say what he thinks earnestly, despite what Laios doing otherwise being overbearing.