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Dell has issued a nineteen eighty-four-esque warning to its hybrid working employees, who shall from now on be tracked using electronic badge swipes, VPN usage and a color-coding system, in order for the company to keep tabs on office usage.

A source familiar with the matter told The Register the new initiative, spearheaded by COO Jeff Clarke, is designed to monitor the on-site presence of the company's hybrid workers.

The system will be used to grade employees based on their presence in the office for at least 39 days per quarter, which equates to around three days per week.

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Starting May 13, Dell intends to provide employees with weekly updates on their onside presence through its HR software, with reports accompanied by a color-coded rating. The ratings will include green, yellow and red flags for 'regular,' 'some' and 'limited' on-site presence, with a special blue flag awarded to those with 'consistent' on-site presence.

A Dell spokesperson commented (via The Register): "In today's global technology revolution, we believe in-person connections paired with a flexible approach are critical to drive innovation and value differentiation."

However, workers have expressed dissatisfaction with the company's increasingly strict measures. The news comes just weeks after the company announced it would be penalizing workers for working from home too much, with promotions being threatened.

Other workers have linked the increased surveillance with continued headcount reduction and cost optimization efforts. Dell laid off around 6,000 workers in March 2024, and a further 6,650 in February 2023. Both times, the company saw a 5% reduction in its workforce.
 

Slayven

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Just say you laying people off soon, stop all the song and dance. It demeans us both
 

Saito

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Or you could opt to just be transparent and say your about to lay staff off a lot of people as sacrifice to the almighty shareholder.
 

fragamemnon

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This is commonplace and at least Dell is trying to be transparent w/ employees about how they are being evaluated.

Doing it this way also makes it universal, meaning that lower-level managers are getting scored just like their direct reports are.

edit: I agree that colors like it's some twisted game of Candyland is silly, but at least its easy to understand where you're at and telling people otherwise does them zero favors.
 

Ashhong

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i will be so upset if my company starts enforcing their return to office shit. Working from home is the best
 

modoversus

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My job backed off after about 3 months of full time back in the office. They never could justify why we had to go back, and it hurt workers morale a lot. Before the pandemic, they spent so much time and money to switch to open office ( not because it makes work better, it's been proven it makes things worse, but because it allows to put more workers in smaller spaces), and that requieres the exact same infrastructure for remote work. Can't unring that bell.
 

Shadybiz

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My job backed off after about 3 months of full time back in the office. They never could justify why we had to go back, and it hurt workers morale a lot. Before the pandemic, they spent so much time and money to switch to open office ( not because it makes work better, it's been proven it makes things worse, but because it allows to put more workers in smaller spaces), and that requieres the exact same infrastructure for remote work. Can't unring that bell.
Going through pretty much the same thing at my job. They made us start coming back to the office 2 days per week back in February. They don't really have a good reason for it, other than "Do it because we said so."

They say that they're also tracking badge swipes and monitoring Internet traffic, but I highly doubt they're actually doing that. If they were, then several people in my group would have been reprimanded by now, myself included. And yeah, morale is shot to complete shit. My group's jobs really do not require one bit of in-person collaboration, so there is no point to this.
 

JimD

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Using RTW as a stealth layoff maneuver is some braindead management bullshit. Because the employees you lose FIRST in that situation are your top performers or have the most in demand skills. That's who can find a new job the quickest. So now the morale of your workforce just took a huge hit not only because of taking away their WFH options, but because everyone else's job just got harder.
 

Ouroboros

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I work at a school…I'm staff not an educator, but even we get to work from home during the summer as long as it doesn't affect our productivity. The reasoning to return from home is so idiotic in many scenarios.
 

Keikaku

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So glad I got a government job, full WFH possibility. It's nice to go to the office too but really appreciate the freedom to choose.
 

Kyuuji

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A Dell spokesperson commented (via The Register): "In today's global technology revolution, we believe in-person connections paired with a flexible approach are critical to drive innovation and value differentiation."
Always the same fluff.
 

Piston

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I have a rare situation that allows me to be mostly WFH for my company, not many people outside the coworkers I communicate directly with daily even know about it. I was at an on-site department specific training and was talking to a higher up at a happy hour and told him about my WFH and he was like "woah that's cool, we really should be letting more do that. Our department there is no direct need to be in one place".

Was nice to see that not all 50+ y/o managers are against the concept.
 

Omegasquash

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"We're going to label the remote employees with a pink label. Please note also that everyone will receive a digital "slip" in their email with regards to staff reduction.

Remember team, we're all in this together. Dell is a family company that consistently demonstrates that it values the folks who's hard work makes my bonus our company so profitable!"
 

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At our place they haven't rolled out anything obvious, but it's been pretty passed down that promotions to more visible roles like Technical Leader or Principal Engineer would go much easier if you came in on the two RTO days a week. Never been a problem for me, and I'll freely admit the exposure I get from just being in the office and able to talk to people has helped me advance. One thing of note is that the color-coding is really more of an internal reporting.

I 1000% get those that like to WFH. It's just not for me.
 

Cruxist

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I mean, you should probably be tracking things like vpn access. But not so you can fire people or rank them, just so you have that information on hand and can better assist when IT issues inevitably come up.

Lots of white collar "knowledge" jobs should remain wfh. This whole forced office return is so stupid.
 

Nooblet

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I'm sorry but once you gave us the option to work from home you can't put that genie back in the bottle!!!!
It's funny to see execs come up with excuses on how it improves efficiency etc...as if the past few years didn't happen and they didn't make any profits.

If it worked then, when the system wasn't in place and had to be built from scratch, it's going to work now after the system's been in place for years.

My company's excuse for hybrid is "team building" and "training". I'll give them the 2nd one as it IS easier to learn if there's someone to answer you immediately rather than having to ask and wait. But in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal, beside shadowing is easier on teams as you screen share than it is physically.
 

Ex Lion Tamer

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Maybe Dell should question why no one wants to go back into the office that they feel they need to take such extreme measures to force people to come in.
 

MrKlaw

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are no companies realising how much it can save them per employee if this allows them to eg halve their real estate requirements?
 

MrKlaw

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It's funny to see execs come up with excuses on how it improves efficiency etc...as if the past few years didn't happen and they didn't make any profits.

If it worked then, when the system wasn't in place and had to be built from scratch, it's going to work now after the system's been in place for years.

My company's excuse for hybrid is "team building" and "training". I'll give them the 2nd one as it IS easier to learn if there's someone to answer you immediately rather than having to ask and wait. But in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal, beside shadowing is easier on teams as you screen share than it is physically.

and if you're managing teams split across 6 different countries and the client is in a 7th country - its hybrid already regardless of whether each location has everyone sat around the same desk in each country
 

PlanetSmasher

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are no companies realising how much it can save them per employee if this allows them to eg halve their real estate requirements?

My company realized this and decided to scale down their real estate. Unfortunately, this also came with the downside of them choosing a smaller new building and turning it into a co-working space where employees are no longer allowed to personalize their workspaces and have to physically bring everything to and from the office every time they come in, meaning the in-office experience for local staff is now 1000% worse.

It's completely irrelevant for me personally as I live literally 1,000 miles from the office and if they try to force me to return I'll quit on the spot - and they know that, I'm not moving cross-country again - but it sucks for people in my org who have to work the hybrid model.
 

Lexad

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At our place they haven't rolled out anything obvious, but it's been pretty passed down that promotions to more visible roles like Technical Leader or Principal Engineer would go much easier if you came in on the two RTO days a week. Never been a problem for me, and I'll freely admit the exposure I get from just being in the office and able to talk to people has helped me advance. One thing of note is that the color-coding is really more of an internal reporting.

I 1000% get those that like to WFH. It's just not for me.
Even if it is not official policy it is just a no brainer. I just started at a new company 2 months ago and I come in most days to match my boss. I clearly have been overperforming her expectations and basically told me as such that if you aren't coming in a lot it is going to hamper employee's getting promoted. Out of sight out of mind.


We are a hybrid mix right now, but I also have the ability to take a light rail downtown so it is not a lot of skin off of my back. I recognize not everyone has that ability but don't be shocked when you might be passed over by someone who goes in more.
 

Lexad

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are no companies realising how much it can save them per employee if this allows them to eg halve their real estate requirements?
You realize those real estate requirements are on contracts that are not easily canceled or in the case of ownership easily sold?
 
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There's something funny about a tech company that makes products that would arguably sell and thrive in a world where remote work is more embraced, making equipment that specializes in remotely connecting people across the globe, only to then say that in-person connections are critical
 

CatAssTrophy

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Think of how much money it's going to cost them to track employee presence and use this color coding system vs just shutting the fuck up and letting them do what they want. Hell, how much did it cost them to form that business jargon word salad about value differentiation to spin "office space is expensive yall" into sounding serious?

Clown shoes.
 

rudeboyoslo

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My company, supposedly a modern workplace in a modern, progressive industry, is using all the tricks in the book to limit wfh options. They're doing their best to force us to come to the office daily and it gets everybody pissed off and kills morale. Unfortunately it seems to be a wider trend, bosses need to feel they're in control and apparently working from home is bad for collaboration. Which is bullshit, but they don't care.