Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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If they don't want the republicans to win, maybe they'll need to actually fucking listen to us then. Otherwise, that sucks. I'm done with Democrats using the right like it's some hostage negotiation.
Gotta keep in mind, we need disgruntled Trump supporters to beat Trump. They have shown to support Biden more than Sanders.
It was pointed out earlier that that line is for people doing same-day registrations (which are a good thing!), which is why it was so long.
Are you serious?
We're definitely undercover agents for Trump! Muhahaha! We couldn't just be leftists with little hope for Biden in the general.
Maybe we're Russian bots.
"reports". Uh huh. Biden is essentially the presumptive nominee so this talk going forward is basically just feeding into what Trump wants.
Cool, let's take this view on voter suppression into the general.
Look, I don't think those people would have made a difference. But let's not pretend that it isn't disgusting this is happening in the US.
the DNC stole his voters and sent them back to 2016, thats why the polls were so wrong that night
Sigh- same day registration. Even if Biden wins tonight, those people in line can be registered for Presidential election.
People thinking the liberal bastion of Washtinaw and Ingham county is suppress votes is embarrassing.
You know where voter suppression happens- Wayne county- where all the black "establishment" votes come from.
I'm seeing a lot of people saying "time to focus on trump".
to me it feels like they are disregarding everything that sanders stands for and has been fighting for. to cast aside what he's been trying to build as if it is a distraction, is disrespectful and disingenuous.
to me it feels like they are disregarding everything that sanders stands for and has been fighting for. to cast aside what he's been trying to build as if it is a distraction, is disrespectful and disingenuous.
They don't hate you. The policy support is there. You just have to work with them instead of vilifying them.
Yeah...no. Best progressives can do is drag the party to the left slowly over time.
This country hasn't made any actual economic progress in at least sixty years. Incrementalism is a lie. If we do not fix the conditions that led to Trump, we'll just get another Trump. The next one might be smarter about keeping the mask on, like Bush and Reagan.
So...Republicans win and rig things to win forever? :geg
The goal for progressives should be to continue dragging the Dem party to the left and it did that in 2016 as clearly evidenced by everything most of the nominees ran on this year. It's slow as fuck but it works. Continue dragging the Dems to the left. Work within the Dem party and continue pushing for change.
Saying he's being hidden is a right wing conspiracy theory.
Full stop.
I will vote for Biden if it means getting rid of Trump but I am honestly not thrilled about it, seriously people look at the guy who can't even debate the people at his own rallies, instead insults them and tells them to vote for Trump, and they go...yeah thats my guy
if biden is to be the nominee, of course he should be tested in a 1v1 debate to see if he's fit to take on trump. if he's the best candidate, a 1v1 debate against bernie shouldn't hurt him at all
if you decide to hold a debate without a live audience, you don't risk any of them getting infected
Even taking the premise of "there's something wrong with Biden" at face value, I'm definitely NOT for replacing him with the guy who got demolished by "the most unpopular candidate in history" as well as the ghost of a "clearly demented boomer yelling at clouds."
What am I supposed to be seeing here?
He got a dig in on Sanders for his campaign pushing the same thing as Trump.... and?
That's actually not a bad idea.
What would even be the point of a debate?
Nope. The narrative would be that the democrats went with two moderates, so what we need is an AOC-like.
You believe he'll refuse to do any debates against the nominee? I completely disagree. Trump is nothing if not arrogant. He 100% believes that whoever it is he can spout some bullshit at them and "upstage" them in a debate. There's no chance he would refuse debates.
At the very least it would make him look weak, which is one of the worst things in the world to him. He'd rather be seen as a moron than seen as a coward.
This is what I don't get.
I stan Bernie, HARD. But I cried my Bernie tears on Super Tuesday. It was over after that massacre. That said, I can live with Joe Biden. Bernie helped move the party further left, it may not be as hard as I'd like but it's further than we were 4 years ago. Biden has the most progressive agenda of any nominee, to not vote for him as a supposed "leftist" is just selfish nonsense. That's four more years of people dying because of Trump.
Nice, that way Republicans can win every election for the next 100 years and you will still lose anyway. Where are these terrible takes coming from? Jesus!
The Obama administration was trying to to do that even back in 2010.
Because people want it but getting Trump out comes first and that's the goal, if Trump wasn't in the White House Bernie would have probably won perhaps
I DON'T FUCKING KNOW, BECAUSE THE MAN IS NOT WELL AND HE SHOULDN'T BE PRESIDENT.
The other guy just went on Fox News and did this! Young people and independents like him! WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE EVEN DOING.
This was us working with them and they put all their resources behind the furthest right candidate they had.
Here's an article from the washington post that accurately describes that the campaign strategy was to keep him hidden. literal clown shit dawg
This is the shit that causes the republicans to win all the time. Republicans fall in line with the nominee every time, not us liberals. Nope. We get mad every time our particular nominee doesn't win. Republicans are crazy as hell but at least they get shit done.
Then the things you care about will never pass. The things that must exist for the things you care about to pass, will cease to exist.
Please, take a moment. Think. A country ruled entirely by Trump, its every facet reshaped like clay to suit his ego. All thoughts to the left of that, washed away by force.
How do you survive that world? How does almost anyone on this forum?
I predict more of a narrative blaming leftists for tanking the election by not coming out for the moderate.
The primary is over so...yes? We should be putting blinders on and hyping up Biden to beat fucking Trump.
Here is my prediction:
Biden wins the 2020 election because a recession caused by the incompetence of Trump handling the corona virus outbreak.
Biden as President keeps implementing corporate and rich friendly policy while barely even throwing scarps to 95% of the country. People become disengaged in politics because the Biden administration is a stooge administration for the rich just like the Clinton and Obama administrations (Yes, it is better than Republican administrations but still garbage.). I bet Biden doesn't even implement something even as major as the ACA. Democrats probably lose seats in the Senate in 2022 despite it being a "good" map for Democrats. In 2024 or 2028 a smart person with fascist tendencies wins the Republican Primary and eventually becomes the last President of the United States.
Biden wins the 2020 election because a recession caused by the incompetence of Trump handling the corona virus outbreak.
Biden as President keeps implementing corporate and rich friendly policy while barely even throwing scarps to 95% of the country. People become disengaged in politics because the Biden administration is a stooge administration for the rich just like the Clinton and Obama administrations (Yes, it is better than Republican administrations but still garbage.). I bet Biden doesn't even implement something even as major as the ACA. Democrats probably lose seats in the Senate in 2022 despite it being a "good" map for Democrats. In 2024 or 2028 a smart person with fascist tendencies wins the Republican Primary and eventually becomes the last President of the United States.
He ran exactly the same campaign as he did in 2016 and got basically the same result. Hell, he even did worse in some cases.
But of course, Bernie cannot fail. He can only be failed.
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