What's ignorant is assuming that the money won't go directly towards caging more kids up.So many pages and still we get ignorant, dumb posts like this. Reading is hard.
There aren't even any protections for dreamers, which would be the ONE thing that even remotely salvages it.
I read the article. It says the only part of the drafted proposal we know of is that they're giving Trump free reign to do what he wants along the border except for building anything with 5 billion to do it with. Everything else is a summary of the lies Republicans have peddled and some rube acting like we should compromise with fascists.
No, it's caving to the racism and nationalism of the Republicans. Or, perhaps the racism and nationalism the Dems had in them all along. Your pick. And if we're assume that they were going to put money towards ~border security~ when we haven't even used up the money already allocated for it from last time we funded "border security", then, yeah, they're being nationalist hacks and should be called out for it. Maybe it isn't technically caving, but it's still bad.
Like, the article certainly doesn't say, so, you tell me: what GOOD, POSITIVE things could possibly be done with the money that Republicans and Trump would actually agree on? They're certainly not going to make ICE centers less inhumane or less like the almost literal concentration camps they are. And outside of that, and given they can't build anything, they pretty much have to use it towards actions. Actions which will harm people who have done nothing but break a stupid and outdated law that has no place in a society looking towards progress.
Nothing that Trump would agree to. I'm in fact for abolishment of borders entirely, sooner or later. I understand that's a big grab, but we should be working towards it, not away from it. Again, I don't want a wall. I never fucking said I do. I think we should make things easier for people who want to work or live here, if we must continue the charade of man made arbitrary concepts like borders. But the Democrats do not specify that's what the money is for. They're saying "here Trump, here GOP, do what you want except build stuff along the border!" Now what could that entail except killing or arresting people doing nothing but walking across an imaginary line in the sand, hm?What kind of security do you think should be at the wall then. What kind of improvement that could be done with 5 billion?
It's not caving, it's getting the government open again while dealing with a issue that needs to be dealt with before the next election cycle with out their being a wall of hate.
Not just at Mexico, I'm sure the Canadian border needs better security as well. Not just for bad elements that can come from those areas, but our bad elements bringing stuff over the border.
They know Cortez is quick to flip on Twitter and make life harder on the Democrats, they are not going to do something stupid like say....let trump build the wall.
A lot of people talking about Dems shouldn't do this or shouldn't do that speaking from a place of privledged because they are not the ones not getting paychecks right now trying to figure out not only how to put food on the table but Keep a roof over their heads.
Whatever bill is passed it needs to include some money to compensate the employees missing pay. They didn't ask for this nonsense. They shouldn't be used as pawns in a power struggle.
And you seem to be speaking from a place of privilege yourself. I'm sure you have a roof over your head, something many of the people who will be negatively effected by 5 billion bumped into "~border security~" (i.e. ICE) don't have. I'm aware that many government workers are going unpaid, and I fully support their methods of protest. That isn't the fault of anyone but Trump. Don't let shitheads trick you into thinking there's a both sides here, there isn't- or wasn't, anyway.
I also am directly impacted by this shutdown given my living situation, don't dare think I don't have skin in this game.