Despite 52% Fatality Rate & Expert Warnings Of High Levels Of The H5N1 Virus Raw Milk Fans Will Continue To Drink Up
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Just pasteurize it and tell them it's raw. They won't know the difference!
As the old saying goes, "What they don't know will help them."
From the Ars Technica comment section -> https://www.latimes.com/environment...enthusiasts-uncowed-by-bird-flu-risk-in-dairy
Let's try and speedrun a new pandemic... wtf
Let's try and speedrun a new pandemic... wtf
It's not fear mongering to report confirmed numbers. If it's underreported, wouldn't the real number be higher? How is reporting a lower number fear mongering?
People have always been stupid, they can just talk to each other now
Jesus... is that from lack of available treatment, or is it really that bad?
So, not contagious? I'm good then.
"Adding more of a [thing] is always better" is an absolute fallacy. Even when that [thing] is education and information
"Adding more of a [thing] is always better" is an absolute fallacy. Even when that [thing] is education and information
Oh boy there was this friend from high school that posts on Facebook about how "raw milk is good for you, akshually" with her and her husband wearing shirts that say "Make Milk Raw Again" Then I saw her comment something like "Yeah still believing in raw milk is like wearing a scarlet letter" Okay chill out there Raw Milk Hester Prynne. I'm sure she's going to defend this somehow and I won't like it's going to be entertaining to watch.
I think the poster might have meant that the number of raw milk drinkers or people who become sick from it are underreported?
This is the way.
To those saying 'let them' these people use the say shit we do...ATM's, restaurants, grocery stores, etc...
The woke leftist scientific community telling people not to drink raw milk is the primary appeal of it.
It's just a dietary equivalent of anti vaxxers, just do the opposite of what the govt recommends. There will always be an appeal to that type of grift.
Lots of reasons. Because understanding all that is hard, whereas declaring it all fake is easy, and makes a stupid person feel like they are the smart one. Because stupidity like that can be contagious. Because actual threat to life, from disease, is rarer than it once was, so stupid people feel invulnerable. And so on.
As others have said thats only counting the 800 or so confirmed human cases. Since its not human communicable yet anyone with mild symptoms probably wouldn't know. This happens with all uncommon infections.
That said. A true CFR of 50% would seem unlikely for a flu virus but it isn't out of the question. Rabies has either a 0% or 100% CFR depending on if you get vaccinated before it finishes incubating or not.
No idea. There might be a WHO or USAID report that gets into the why though.
Drinking raw milk is all downsides, and no upsides.
No food is worth the risk of getting tuberculosis in your bones.
I stg that more people needed to actually be paying attention in science class. There is a reason we pasteurize milk, and its not because of "big pasteurization", or whatever.
No food is worth the risk of getting tuberculosis in your bones.
I stg that more people needed to actually be paying attention in science class. There is a reason we pasteurize milk, and its not because of "big pasteurization", or whatever.
The only people I've seen talk about getting raw milk were trying to find farms they can buy from directly. Their stance was some country bumpkin craziness.
Reminds me of the Axios Trump interview meme.
You know I had a bit of an inkling, so looked something up:
www.theguardian.com
Anyone beginning to see a trend?
No, you don’t need to be drinking raw milk
Thanks to TikTok, raw milk is growing in popularity in the US. But health experts are appalled
www.theguardian.com
Anyone beginning to see a trend?
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Sigh. If this sort of behavior only hurt the idiots that partaked in it I'd shrug it off but it's no doubt going to be their kids that suffer the consequences of these fools. Nevermind if their behavior helps cause infections in the community.
You know I had a bit of an inkling, so looked something up:
No, you don’t need to be drinking raw milk
Thanks to TikTok, raw milk is growing in popularity in the US. But health experts are appalled
Anyone beginning to see a trend?
I generally assume that these people have no idea what homogenization or pasteurizing actually are. What does throw me slightly is that I would have thought these sorts of people would go for some sort of fancy nut based milk to meet their 'purity' or 'close to nature' needs, and not a cow's milk of any sort.
No real cure and vaccine for human exist at this time.
Risk of bird flu spreading to humans is ‘enormous concern’, says WHO
Chief scientist voices fears about H5N1 variant that has ‘extraordinarily high’ mortality rate in humans
www.theguardian.com
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I think we should get this more of this virus milk. Hell forget the milk can we just make a jar of the virus?
It's fearmongering when done without context. Cases that don't result in death are very likely underreported, which means deaths would take up a lower number of actual income infections. An influenza virus having that high of an IFR would be unlikely. This is reminiscent of the early COVID IFRs, which were much lower than predicted.
There is way too little information and research at this point to come up with an accurate IFR for H5N1 at this time.
View: https://twitter.com/OmicronData/status/1784719309094199376
7 million people dead from COVID but won't someone think of the 'fearmongering' wtf
Where in my post do I downplay the death toll of COVID? I'm just using the initial IFR estimated for COVID-19 as an example of how, especially when it's novel, they're always much higher than the actual IFR. COVID initially had IFRs of 20% and higher, but in actuality, it was less than 1%.
The Tweet is the start of a thread that explains this.
By using the term 'fearmongering' when they are simply reporting factual numbers centered around an article about people literally drinking virus-infested milk? Like....out of all that...that's the thing you decided to focus on...why?
Next week in the AP:
"Mark McAfee, founder of the California-based Raw Milk Institute dies in mysterious circumstances."
"Mark McAfee, founder of the California-based Raw Milk Institute dies in mysterious circumstances."
Because the writer, in the very title of the article, is insinuating that the H5N1 is killing half the people it is infecting, which is insanely misleading? And if they are truly interested in report the facts and real science, know what they are doing when they report that. Are you saying it's wrong to point out and focus on sensationalizing?
It's not though? It's literally based on the numbers of confirmed cases, which you would know if you took 2 minutes to read the article and context?
I'm saying it's wrong to focus on your idea of 'sensationalizing' to minimize the underlying point of the article, which is that DUMBFUCKS ARE INTENTIONALLY DRINKING MILK WITH THE H1N1 VIRUS IN IT. I don't think there is any sensationalizing that level of stupidity and focusing on 'actually we don't know the IFR and this is fearmongering!' makes no sense.
I drank raw milk from an Amish market many years ago and was sick for 2-3 days afterwards.
Never again!!
Never again!!
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Honestly I'm fine with a bit of sensationalism if helps stop people from turning themselves into walking breeding grounds for a potentially horrific disease.
It's possible to focus on two different things. People have, do and will always have complete disregard for their health and enough people here have already made that point. Focusing on something else doesn't nullify that.
I read the entire article, and it doesn't provide the proper context, as it doesn't even discern between CFR and IFR. And it barely even questions that it could be less than 50%.
Yeah, no. I expect a science/tech publication to do better and will keep calling them out. For the sake of scientific literacy, I hope others will do the same.
I've always thought it disgusting and unsanitary even before the H5N1 outbreak.
Better hope for an "electric cars are the signs of the devil. Petrol is energy, let me show you by having me drinking it! If it can power a car, it can power me!"