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I wonder if they are scaling back Destiny team
Guess they have no room for people on marathon team.
Hope the devs end up somewhere they can feel needed and wanted.
Guess they have no room for people on marathon team.
Hope the devs end up somewhere they can feel needed and wanted.
Fucking brutal, their community manager tweeted about layoff anxiety just a couple hours ago, and now:
View: https://x.com/dirtyeffinhippy/status/1719029580294734112?s=46&t=gbYgL_rvpbF6qlAMTodElw
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Don't they have:
1) Maintaining and building an expansion for D2
2) A big new GAAS title in Marathon
3) Another unannounced new IP
Why would you lay off when you've got all that going on?
1) Maintaining and building an expansion for D2
2) A big new GAAS title in Marathon
3) Another unannounced new IP
Why would you lay off when you've got all that going on?
Consolidation usually leads to layoffs.
Especially after covid proped up the gaming industry. I hope these ppl land on their feet.
Especially after covid proped up the gaming industry. I hope these ppl land on their feet.
No way they let go Liana
Fucking wow
Man this is going to be brutal to see who else got cut and let go.
Shitty and also seems like a very short sighted thing to do when they've got Marathon and potentially a new IP on the way which will probably need every hand they can get assuming both are gaas. Even if it's only business roles, they're supposed be running Sony's gaas efforts and will be juggling a lot of brands themselves.
I don't get it. Are we paying more attention now or is the industry having an unprecedented amount of layoffs this year. Or both?
Unprecedented. Overhiring during Covid and inflation/ increased interest rates have been a really bad combo for the industry. It's not just games, but tech in general. Microsoft and Amazon have laid of 10k+ workers in the last year.
This is true, but if I were working at Bungie and hadn't been laid off by now, I'd probably feel like I was "in the clear" for that reason, at least since it's been so long since Sony acquired them.
I guess I don't really know how anything works though, really.
Fucking hell. This year has been brutal for workers. My heart goes out for them and I sincerely hope they can land on their feet and find new jobs quickly. This is so fucking sad.
It really does put a damper on the "best year for game releases" when it's also the year the most people got fired. They're unrelated but still a bummer.
2023: the year of the corporate tantrum. "Wahhh, you didn't buy into GaaS, time for some sackings!"
I guess as they're only a few months away from releasing Destiny 2's final expansion it's not surprising that they'll be cutting down on staffing. The past 3 years have been brutal for an industry that's always operated with ebbs and flows.
Both. There's an unusually high amount as a result of the pendulum swing back from the unusually high amount of hires during Covid. There's also more attention on it as a result of the frequency keeping it a hot topic and things like it just getting more attention over time in the same way work places abuses have been for the past few years.
I thought Bungie was suppose to grow after the merger. The D2 is stale as fuck at this point and they made it sound that the game was going to benefit in the future after the merger but that would show a few years out after the Final Shape. Laying off people right before the big finale of this part of the series doesn't bode well for the games future post Final Shape if they are reducing headcount by a large amount. Disappointing news for all.
its been a little over a year, this is when layoffs happen
Fuck capitalism and fuck acquisitions. Stop rooting for acquisitions and developers need to unionize.
Both, but more of the latter. Everyone's losing jobs, even legendary veterans who have shaped some of the most celebrated and influential IPs in gaming. It's such a shit show that with so many talented artists and developers looking for work, there's zero opportunity for juniors and fresh grads looking to break into the industry (unless they're willing to be exploited, which is a whole other can of worms)
Man, that's rough. I've got some former coworkers who went to work there over the last year, and one of the reasons that I was happy for them is it seems like the kind of stable place that they can sort of put themselves at ease. But I guess nowhere is safe right now.
I really hate this industry right now. Had multiple people I know move to Bungie after getting laid off at other studios earlier this year. Sucks they have to go through that trauma again.
The writing was on the wall sadly. The moment DMG left and the social media accounts was managed by multiple people under the Destiny2teams account, it was a matter of time. Pretty disgusting considering she tanked most of the toxicity vitriol hurled at TWIDs after Lightfall launched.
They acquired them over a year and a half ago at this point. I assumed any layoffs as a result would've happened already
Same in biotech, unprecedented layoffs & closures. Related to it: VCs funding fewer companies but at higher amounts with much more oversight on capital deployment over the short to medium term.
On-topic: this fucking sucks, I hope everyone lands on their feet. Something we keep saying ad nauseam given what a disaster this year has been for layoffs... Shit is depressing.
Completely awful news. What a terrible year for game developers.
This.
This.
I think it's been explained that the Sony money bought out the then-shareholders at Bungie and didn't actually go toward development.
Feels bad man. It has been a while that Bungie feels mismanaged and that seems to be a culmination of it. Things shouldn't have to be this way. I hope these people get back on their feet quickly.
I totally expect them to delay The Final Shape any moment now. They had little to show in the showcase and I don't expect them to have more with less people now.
Damn, they should've at least tried to move people to Marathon. Unless that is also suffering cuts.
I totally expect them to delay The Final Shape any moment now. They had little to show in the showcase and I don't expect them to have more with less people now.
Damn, they should've at least tried to move people to Marathon. Unless that is also suffering cuts.
The deal closed late last year iirc and there weren't any reported layoff when that happened, so technically he's not wrong I guess. Ultimately any company exec that says absolutely no layoffs is most likely lying lol
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Jim Ryan gone, Connie Booth gone, layoffs at Media Molecule, layoffs at Naughty Dog, layoffs at Bungie... what's going on at Playstation right now?
I can only imagine its redundancies. If PlayStation decides to manage all aspects of Bungie then they may not need their own HR team, their own community reps, their own corporate services team, their own marketing team, etc.
The cynic in me thinks anyone making over a certain salary threshold while keeping "more affordable" talent.
Executives love to say this, and technically he was correct - they didn't lay anybody off when the Sony deal closed.
This could be entirely unrelated to the Sony buyout or it could be specifically driven by Sony wanting to reduce costs, though. We have no way of knowing until an official statement is made.
Ironically, Sony killing Bungie's PR department would be pretty ridiculous considering they supposedly bought Bungie for their live service experience, and nothing is LESS USEFUL for a live service than all of your PR and community management being filtered through a publisher and NOT someone at the actual development studio.