Nah they straight up stole a whole ass expansion pack from me. Bandaid on a broken bone right here. I don't think I'll ever give bungie my hard earned money again.
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Destiny 2 Huge Power Level Changes for The Final Shape
- Thread starter Stalker
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Hey these weapons are sunset, they are gone. You don't have infinite space, I would delete them, just joking.
wow, removing power level is pretty crazy
i know its a pain, but they can still all be mostly restored, though, through the collection?
i know its a pain, but they can still all be mostly restored, though, through the collection?
As someone who hasn't really played since, um, sunsetting Forsaken I think (because it was free for a month lol) but buying a bunch of the other campaigns because I'm stupid, is the general advice then to wait until Final Shape is out to do all those campaigns to avoid grinding, or is this not really an issue unless I want to do a bunch of other content (which frankly I wouldn't even know where to begin and don't really want to group up anyways so it'd be randoms only).
Recluse is pretty whatever as it is a ritual weapon so can be pulled from collection, there is also a "better" Recluse already in the game, but it's not really all that great anymore.
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Beyond Light, Shadowkeep and The Witch Queen (and I guess Forsaken technically, picked up the Pack at some point probably as part of the Legacy Collection).
Account wide power tracking is a really big deal. What a smart, convenient change.
We still have to go up 100 light
We still have to go up 100 light
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You could start TODAY and get ready for the launch of final shape, Though if you want to play and unlock the latest subclass strand you'd have to buy Lightfall which should be pretty cheap now
View: https://i.imgur.com/PTX3LOI.jpeg
You can go here on the map and grab a set of 1810 gear on each character which will put you at the current power level cap
Then run through
Shadowkeep > Beyond Light > Witch Queen and then you can either play Lightfall or wait for The Final Shape. If you want to be extra ready the current season has a quest line that you can run through and wait for the final week quest update before TFS launches which will set up the story.
Additionally there's something called "Into the Light" happening currently which has a bunch of top tier guns you can get a quick and gaurenteed good version of by completing some very simple "kill enemies" bounties
they just need to make transmog free and the 2020 apology tour will be complete
(Seriously, of allllllll the dumb things bungie has done over the years, this is the one that gets the most 'are you fucking serious' reactions when i explain it to other people. like, imagine any other game locking the ability to transmog owned gear in the cash shop with a finite number of free unlocks every 3-4 months. if you take any time off from the game at all, it becomes functionally impossible to ever catch up without spending)
(Seriously, of allllllll the dumb things bungie has done over the years, this is the one that gets the most 'are you fucking serious' reactions when i explain it to other people. like, imagine any other game locking the ability to transmog owned gear in the cash shop with a finite number of free unlocks every 3-4 months. if you take any time off from the game at all, it becomes functionally impossible to ever catch up without spending)
Damn butt sending.
They already stated and shown they're down to re-issue a ton of stuff with modern perk pools and foundry bonuses. Don't know how far they'll get in re-issuing all the genuinely popular stuff, but it's easy content to fill out an Episode with.
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They are not removing power levels, players can still grind for +1 powerful gear to get them above the cap. But now in majority of the coop content, the power level of entire fireteam will be normalized just below the strength of the most powerful player.
So, regular players will still have something to spend time on, and casual players will now be able to easily join any coop activity.
At this rate they will reprise Leviathan next year.
I also hope Destiny 3 will bring some smarter ways to handle the playing of old content.
this is great news but my friends won't come back.
Once they took perks off armor and replaced it with their armor mod system, huge swaths of my friends were like "nope, this is too much", back to the COD grinder.
Once they took perks off armor and replaced it with their armor mod system, huge swaths of my friends were like "nope, this is too much", back to the COD grinder.
That's fine, no guardian can hold that much glimmer anyway.
It's going to be Fireteam Power level for enemy difficulty and your own power for loot drops.
From yesterday's TWID:
There's also a table in the article listing all the activities (Vanguard Ops, Nightfalls, etc) and their Power Level.
I'll look out for that combo.
Is it possible to craft Dragonfly/Firefly at the Enclave?
Not seen it yet but it's another look-out for me. Still rocking my 1600 level Void Hammerhead.
Firefly is craftable on the King's Fall raid weapons. Dragonfly is craftable on a bigger pool of weapons, including one of the King's Fall weapons, the void scout rifle Doom of Chelchis. Firefly and Dragonfly roll in different columns so you have can both if you really wanted to.
Another amazing Dragonfly weapon is Tyranny of Heaven, a solar lightweight bow from Last Wish raid. I crafted mine with Dragonfly/Incandescent and it's basically Best Value Sunshot (but a bow).
As for new Hammerhead, did you do the attunement quest for it? I heard someone say that the new weapons won't drop until you do so. But I always do the attunement quests before jumping into Onslaught anyways so I don't know if it's really true or not.
My friend wants to play Destiny 2 again, and the last expansion they have is Witch Queen. Will they need to get Lightfall and Beyond Light before getting Final Shape, to play those older missions?
Will need Lightfall for Strand and Beyond Light for Stasis, I don't think they've said how the "new" subclass Prismatic (it is a mix of all the other subclasses) will play with people who don't actually have Strand or Stasis (or the 3rd Light powers from Forsaken), but I wouldn't be surprised if they required owning Lightfall and Beyond Light (and the Forsaken pack) to use them. So probably worth having as unlocking them requires finishing those expansions, but maybe wait for a sale on them as they go pretty cheap nowadays.
Also if on PS Witch Queen is on PS+ Extra at the moment amd Beyond Light was on normal PS+ not too long ago (leading up to Lightfall).
Its a good step in the right direction. But the grind in the game is still terrible.
And why not remove the levels all together and just make it difficulty based, there is no reason to keep it up for the endgame....
So you still need to grind.....
Or let a friend grind and join him a albeit weaker...
And why not remove the levels all together and just make it difficulty based, there is no reason to keep it up for the endgame....
So you still need to grind.....
Or let a friend grind and join him a albeit weaker...
They are doing that latter. You get artificially boosted up to whoever the highest Light level player in the fireteam is but -5. Won't change the level of the gear that drops for you, so you can't just jump up to whatever the max gear level will be, but you won't just get 1 shot by everything.
Also for the most part power level only really matters in the highest difficulty stuff that usually locks you at a lower light level anyway (I wouldn't be surprised if that is just something that is hard coded in at this point and actually removing it is not so easily done), so it's kinda whatever for most of the stuff in the game (they haven't even been increasing it with the seasons this year) and only becomes a factor when you start going up the difficulty modes.
Thanks guys! She has Beyond Light, but not Lightfall. She also wants to play Season of the Witch (on PS5). I feel bad telling her she needs to buy the current season and Lightfall, only to end up purchasing Final Shape in June as well.
To play Season of The Witch she will need to buy the deluxe edition of Lightfall if she didn't buy it when it was the new season (it's real stupid I know), you can only buy the current season for Silver for who knows what reason and have to get the Deluxe version of the last expansion to play any of the years seasons you missed.
This game really needs to add, at the very least, an inkblot cutscene summarizing each season on their timeline page. People should be able to look at the timeline page and select a season and be shown and explained what they missed, story-wise. Their should also be the first and final mission of each missing campaign (since those are usually the only real missions that matter in the campaigns that are missing lol) with a cutscene in between those missions bridging them.
Thats the bare minimum. An abridged, playable version of the cutscenes, character dialogue, and unique missions for each season is really what should be accessible to all players.
Thats the bare minimum. An abridged, playable version of the cutscenes, character dialogue, and unique missions for each season is really what should be accessible to all players.
yeah, i think i'm in the same boat. i have 1100 hr played but i don't really feel like i need to go back...so hard to catch up, so much i missed
lots of good memories though, and i'm pretty sure i have recluse/mountaintop stashed away somewhere lol
also, what does this mean?
i thought you could always get new copies of old weapons by paying some shards? from "collections"
Exotics and weapons without random perks, sure. I can pull a Leviathan Zenith of your Kind or a Year 1 Retrofuturist out of my Collections no problem. Weapons with random perks, no.
You can only pull stuff with static rolls from collection, which is just year 1 guns, exotics and ritual weapons. Anything with random rolls can't be pulled from Collection.yeah, i think i'm in the same boat. i have 1100 hr played but i don't really feel like i need to go back...so hard to catch up, so much i missed
lots of good memories though, and i'm pretty sure i have recluse/mountaintop stashed away somewhere lol
also, what does this mean?
i thought you could always get new copies of old weapons by paying some shards? from "collections"
yeah, i think i'm in the same boat. i have 1100 hr played but i don't really feel like i need to go back...so hard to catch up, so much i missed
lots of good memories though, and i'm pretty sure i have recluse/mountaintop stashed away somewhere lol
also, what does this mean?
i thought you could always get new copies of old weapons by paying some shards? from "collections"
the only thing that should be difficult right now to catch up on is the story, depending on where you left off. This is very much the easiest time to catch up on power and gear grind. They are giving every player max level gear at every player, the into the light onslaught mode is free and drops almost entirely god rolls better than almost every sunset weapon, and fireteam finder makes lfg so much easier. Then once final shape drops, there will be fireteam level so you will always be able to play with your friends.
I just did the recap for D1 via the main menu, for old times sake, and it felt like a lot despite only covering each major campaign victory and respective raid boss. (I think there was an extra for Trials, if you made it to the Lighthouse.)
Destiny 2 is currently on 23 seasons, 8–10 raids (depending on if you count raid lairs,) 8 dungeons, and untold victories over various enemies each campaign/season.
Even if I gave you a one sentence summary it would still take a long time to write it up.
(I wouldn't mind, either.)
Edit: there is a very vague summary included in the "timeline" feature but you'd be forgiven for not knowing about it or where to find it
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People keep saying there was no way to know this was coming, but we've known for like a year this was happening in some form.
There was that leak early last year for the Season of the Deep content from some Bungie Summit with content influencers, that also included a PowerPoint presentation where Bungie flat out said they were removing Power Levels on sunset gear. It was 100% confirmed to be real when the exact weapons (from the pictures) ended up in game.
The implication was it was going to happen in Deep, but even though it didn't happen then, it was clear it was coming eventually. It's exactly why I didn't delete ANYTHING sunset after seeing it.
One of my friends loves Destiny lore, and the other is interested but wants to see it play out in game. A lot of the lore finally plays out in game but since they only check out the game when theres a new dlc, they can't access most of that lore and miss out on it playing out in-game. It is a lot, and its kind of frustrating that bungie does it all such a dissatisfaction after the fact. You don't really see their pride in their own story telling when they constantly and consistently erase it.
He's been doing Vault Cleaning stuff for far more than a year (since at least 2021). The sunset weapons were his first sacrifices.
I haven't done Kings Fall and I don't like Bows but I see I still have Bring Down The Hammer quest. I'll get right on that and see what happens.
Sorry, I'm a complete newb to all this new stuff!
If you want something that you probably have, try the exotic handcanon Sunshot, it is pretty amazing at the moment, especially with the solar seasonal artifact mods.
Why are people crying about grinding light so much? Isn't that the whole purpose of the game? Is there anything behind high light level that you couldn't do an easier version of? Legit came back after being gone since Season 1 and its a blast and felt like I haven't missed a step. People complaining about not knowing how to do certain things is also super weird considering I find the Destiny community to be one of the most helpful ones. Came back about two weeks ago and managed to find a Sherpa for almost every raid I've missed and I'm learning them to hopefully do the same in the future. Went to Youtube and caught up on anything I missed or had a friend fill me in storywise and I'm digging the changes. My biggest beefs so far are why the fuck do I need mats to transmog should be free game once you collected the item once. Second complaint would have to be I can't get a skimmer without having to pay $25 lmao.
I also don't understand why Bungie can't split Destiny 2 similar to how COD is split into Campaign/MP. Give players the ability to have all planets be accessible at all times along with the rest of D2 and make the campaign storylines separate downloads players can grab. It would give players the option on dictating how big their download is while also allowing everyone to have any campaign they want. Also wouldn't mind if they added the ability to see what you missed storywise somehow for returning players. Feel like the game could benefit from a last season on Destiny type scenario lol like tv shows.
Any new/returning players want to jump back in hit me up. I just went through the process and wouldn't mind helping others out. You can reach current light level really easy and Onslaught will give you plenty of decent weapons to start your journey.
I also don't understand why Bungie can't split Destiny 2 similar to how COD is split into Campaign/MP. Give players the ability to have all planets be accessible at all times along with the rest of D2 and make the campaign storylines separate downloads players can grab. It would give players the option on dictating how big their download is while also allowing everyone to have any campaign they want. Also wouldn't mind if they added the ability to see what you missed storywise somehow for returning players. Feel like the game could benefit from a last season on Destiny type scenario lol like tv shows.
Any new/returning players want to jump back in hit me up. I just went through the process and wouldn't mind helping others out. You can reach current light level really easy and Onslaught will give you plenty of decent weapons to start your journey.
Yep, I got that. I also use the Polaris Lance and Graviton Lance. I also managed to snag a Shadow Price, my favourite Destiny weapon, in Destiny 2 with Dragonfly. It's glorious.
I still get the feeling nearly all of the newer weapons don't feel as powerful, even if they technically are, or as fun to use.
They don't give me the fizz.
A lot of the weapons power is kinda tied to your builds, instead of the actual weapon itself nowadays, which is probably not something you have really messed with yet and wasn't really a thing until a few years ago when they redid lots of the subclasses and added a lot more weapon perks that synergize with the subclasses. They make for much more powerful weapons and just the Guardians in general, but not super beginner friendly.
The difference a decent build makes is just a night and day difference, especially with how Bungie design their encounters nowadays where you just get overwhelmed by lots of adds.
Oh, I know, I'm just speaking as of after that leak came out. There were people still deleting sunset stuff even after seeing that leak was real.
Of course before that it wasn't feasible for anyone to expect or know that.