Guys,
Is DMC4 worth playing?
As for 1 to 3, I actually never took the time to properly play these games back then. In this case that HD collection is a no braoner?
Exactly. I think if Kyrie saw Nero down on the ground in a pool of blood, she would almost certainly try to help him. Whether Vergil would try to attack her or not, depends on if she does get in his way.Kyrie might have tried to protect Nero in that scene and he is shouting for her to get back.
If you're getting an extra arm, might as well get an extra leg!
I actually doubt anything happened to Kyrie since Nero seemed pretty jolly for most of the trailer.
I hope not.
As uninteresting as Kirie was, that'd be a lame storyline to fall back on.
To be clear I don't want Kyrie to die, just have her be off-screen the entire game maybe except for the opening and ending.And have to agree with the others, Nero was way too happy partying with Nico to have just lost Kyrie. Guessing she's safe and sound at home, she's just a normal person so there would be zero point for her to come along.
I think that's just part of his outfit design. Doubt it has anything to do with Order of the Sword.A few frames after your 2nd pic, but before the 3rd one, you can see a symbol on Vergil's right sleeve, that symbol to me heavily resembles the Order of the Sword, just not as ornate.
Well, I see this Vergil as a corrupt version of the character (that's actually mentioned in the PR as well). So he might do stuff that Vergil wouldn't normally do. Like I doubt normal Vergil would just appear out of the blue and rip his son's arm to get Yamato back. That's way too cold even for Vergil (who does actually care about his family)It's a possibility, but I'd wonder why, as it wouldn't fit what we know about Vergil/Angelo.
Angelo was always prided as "a noble demon who believed in fair play", even when Mundus was fully controlling his actions. Vergil, on the other hand, never went out of his way to slay innocents (though I'm sure he didn't care if his actions would have a greater impact on innocents around him, if his plot in DMC3 succeeded, for example).
So, the idea that he would fridge Kyrie, unless he deemed her a threat, just doesn't fit, to me. At least based on DMC1 and 3. Either Angelo is not fully in control of his actions to an even worse degree than his days serving Mundus, or something is very wrong...
...or GILVER is back.
I've thought for a while that having Kyrie basically perform the Annie Potts/Ghostbusters role in the Devil May Cry shop would be great. she can take calls and get coffee and pizza for everyone.
The game is darker, but it won't be that edgy, thats DmC shitMary Jane, even at her inception is a character with 1000% the depth of Kyrie. Even Trish has some form of purpose and character growth. She just needs her sexualisation toned down.
Kryries whole point is to be a plot point. A princess in the castle to be rescued. She is useless and a distraction. She is as useful dead as alive.
Fridging is a trope/plot device where women, typically love interests or family of the main male protagonist, are killed off by an antagonist in order to give motivation to said protagonist. Aside from being fairly lazy on the part of the writer, it's also pretty sexist since it reinforces the whole "disposable women" trope by devaluing the value of a female character to simply being motivation for a male character, treating them instead as plot devices to move the male character's arc forwards.Can someone please explain fridging? Seen it in a few threads today and not sure what it means or what I missed.
Thanks!
Exactly. I think if Kyrie saw Nero down on the ground in a pool of blood, she would almost certainly try to help him. Whether Vergil would try to attack her or not, depends on if she does get in his way.
To be clear I don't want Kyrie to die, just have her be off-screen the entire game maybe except for the opening and ending.
But in regards to the argument that Nero is too calm in the trailer for Kiryu to be dead, we don't know when this flashback takes place. It might be years before the event of DMCV. So Nero could've had time to process her the death to some extent. Also, I think it's pretty clear towards the end of the trailer that he will lose his shit when he sees Vergil.
I think that's just part of his outfit design. Doubt it has anything to do with Order of the Sword.
Well, I see this Vergil as a corrupt version of the character (that's actually mentioned in the PR as well). So he might do stuff that Vergil wouldn't normally do. Like I doubt normal Vergil would just appear out of the blue and rip his son's arm to get Yamato back. That's way too cold even for Vergil (who does actually care about his family)
So we don't know what this corrupt Vergil is capable of or what his goal might be.
Those bug duders are actually pretty creepy close up. Human faces are in there pretty clearly.
Ya know how some DMC1's enemies were RE4.5 rejects?
I wonder of those space insects were taken from lost infect concept art from recent RE games.. the first time I saw them in the trailer it made me think that Capcom gave RE2 the RE6 treatment. LOL.
I think Dante will have different localesAm I the only one that wants DMC5 to have a castle-like environment in later parts of the game? I mean cities are cool, but give me some DMC1 nostalgia
We are talking about the same Vergil that had no problem running his own twin brother through with his bro's own sword, because he wanted his amulet half.Well, I see this Vergil as a corrupt version of the character (that's actually mentioned in the PR as well). So he might do stuff that Vergil wouldn't normally do. Like I doubt normal Vergil would just appear out of the blue and rip his son's arm to get Yamato back. That's way too cold even for Vergil (who does actually care about his family)
So we don't know what this corrupt Vergil is capable of or what his goal might be.
Their heads also look like hairy balls. O_oThose bug duders are actually pretty creepy close up. Human faces are in there pretty clearly.
There was an official post on the Japanese twitter about the new bad guy.
Demon emperor, stronger than Mundus even (who is prince of darkness).
Finally an actual threat to the gang!
We are talking about the same Vergil that had no problem running his own twin brother through with his bro's own sword, because he wanted his amulet half.
Sure, we can assume Vergil knew his brother could survive such a thing, but if that's the case, there's no reason to not assume Vergil couldn't believe his other relation couldn't function after losing an arm.
If he's still under Mundus' control (or whomever is the Demon Emperor now), then that would be one thing. But for now, I think it's just Vergil operating under his usual MO. "I need this, and I ain't asking nicely for it. You can get up by yourself and come after me, if you git gud."
Cannot wait for the last level where nero, dante and virgil combine forces in the most badass way.
We are talking about the same Vergil that had no problem running his own twin brother through with his bro's own sword, because he wanted his amulet half.
Sure, we can assume Vergil knew his brother could survive such a thing, but if that's the case, there's no reason to not assume Vergil couldn't believe his other relation couldn't function after losing an arm.
If he's still under Mundus' control (or whomever is the Demon Emperor now), then that would be one thing. But for now, I think it's just Vergil operating under his usual MO. "I need this, and I ain't asking nicely for it. You can get up by yourself and come after me, if you git gud."
That's the funny thing.Does Vergil even know that Nero is his son? He could've just showed up and was like "Oh a silver haired fellow with Yamato. Neat" and just yanked his arm off.
Leaked image of Vergil finding out Nero is his sonThat's the funny thing.
Because I can easily imagine a scenario where Vergil would just assume it's his brother's kid, completely forgetting his own torrid affair with a prostitute in Fortuna years ago. Later on in the storyline, pieces are put together or Dante having to spell it out for him and then Vergil's all like.
"Aw, shit."
Does Vergil even know that Nero is his son? He could've just showed up and was like "Oh a silver haired fellow with Yamato. Neat" and just yanked his arm off.
"I got a score to settle with that son of a bitch!"Since when is Nero's mom a prostitute lol.
I don't think either of them are aware at that point in time. Vergil just homed in on the sword probably and that's all that he is there for.
I'm guessing Nero and Vergil will engage in a full on fight later in the game and will find out their relation when Dante butts in.
Nero being Vergil son is not likely based on their age and it's only fan-fiction tier theory up to this point. Nero is probably the third lost sibling of both, when Eva survived/reincarnated somehow and nobody is aware of that yet.
Apparently the DMC4 novel was confirmed canon, and Vergil is Nero's father in that.I don't know if those are considered canon within the in-game universe.
It was a Word of God confirmation I guess it's called, and it was heavily hinted at in Vergils DMC4SE end scene. I suppose it can be deconfirmed, but Occams Razor says Vergil is Nero's papa.I don't know if those are considered canon within the in-game universe.
Everything in that book is canon. End of story.I don't know if those are considered canon within the in-game universe.
I'm guessing Nero and Vergil will engage in a full on fight later in the game and will find out their relation when Dante butts in.
Same, by a country goddamn mile!As unpopular as it might sound, this is my most hyped game coming from E32018
Single-player linear-gaming is not dead bitch!
So excited
"I got a score to settle with that son of a bitch!"
"You watch that tongue boy! Don't talk about your grandma like that!"
"...what?"
The Nero Vs Dante fight in DMC4 was so fucking good (cutscene and all), I can't wait for Nero Vs Vergil.
As unpopular as it might sound, this is my most hyped game coming from E32018
Single-player linear-gaming is not dead bitch!
So excited
As unpopular as it might sound, this is my most hyped game coming from E32018
Single-player linear-gaming is not dead bitch!
So excited
As unpopular as it might sound, this is my most hyped game coming from E32018
Single-player linear-gaming is not dead bitch!
So excited
every DMC title (except DMC2) had a son of sparda boss fight and DmC sorely lacked the over the top stylish action display/choreography.
I can't wait for this time around, especially with Itsuno doing his thang, with photorealisitic graphics and returning action choreography artists and cast.
Its gonna be amazing.
Even if we agree that Vergil didn't care about Dante and his family at the beginning of DMC3 (which I don't agree with, he fully knew that Dante would survive that, I mean they are twin brothers, he knows what are Dante's powers), Vergil clearly realizes that he was wrong by the end of DMC3 and shows that he cares for Dante when says that Dante needs to get out of demon world if he doesn't wanna get trapped there. (and then jumping off that cliff so Dante would actually leave instead of sticking around to bring Vergil back to human world)We are talking about the same Vergil that had no problem running his own twin brother through with his bro's own sword, because he wanted his amulet half.
Sure, we can assume Vergil knew his brother could survive such a thing, but if that's the case, there's no reason to not assume Vergil couldn't believe his other relation couldn't function after losing an arm.
If he's still under Mundus' control (or whomever is the Demon Emperor now), then that would be one thing. But for now, I think it's just Vergil operating under his usual MO. "I need this, and I ain't asking nicely for it. You can get up by yourself and come after me, if you git gud."
Dante, seeks vengeance for his brother's corruption and his mother's murder.
Not only the 3.1.4.2 book confirms this, but the VAs for Dante, Nero and Vergil confirmed this as well. Reuben (Dante's VA) said that the team expected for people to put the hints together and figure it out but instead people went crazy and thought Nero was Sparda re-incarnated or Vergil somehow stored himself in Nero's arm, etc.Nero being Vergil son is not likely based on their age and it's only fan-fiction tier theory up to this point. Nero is probably the third lost sibling of both, when Eva survived/reincarnated somehow and nobody is aware of that yet. But Vergil doesn't GAF about family and bloodlines for sure, he's only looking after his own personal interest.