-720p in both modes, visual settings are identical, still no AA.
-docked is usually 10-20FPS faster than Wii U, still dips below 60FPS at the same stress points.
-undocked performance is better than Wii U but not as good as docked
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Digital Foundry - Bayonetta 2 Nintendo Switch first look
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-720p in both modes, visual settings are identical, still no AA.
-docked is usually 10-20FPS faster than Wii U, still dips below 60FPS at the same stress points.
-undocked performance is better than Wii U but not as good as docked
I wonder how the framerate holds in the later parts of Bayonetta 2. On Wii U it crashed to even lower than 20-15fps at times (at least it seemed to).
That's a bit sad, I was hoping for at least 900p docked. Oh well. :(
So 720p uhm, ok, i'll wait for a price drop, already played the best versions of both games this year.
Not unsurprising. It is a straight port more or less. Switch's extra power allows for a more consistent framerate.
Kind of a bummer about no higher res as opposed to the native that even the Wii U game was at, but not a deal breaker.
Better to have Bayonetta 2 on Switch in this state, rather than it being forgotten and lost to time on the Wii U.
Kind of a bummer about no higher res as opposed to the native that even the Wii U game was at, but not a deal breaker.
Better to have Bayonetta 2 on Switch in this state, rather than it being forgotten and lost to time on the Wii U.
sorry but these specs in 2018 is really bad, i know handheld yadda yadda but no, this is not enough and really awful on the technical side
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Yeah, it seems like a great port only in handheld mode to me, even with the frame rate dips.
That's okay. As talked by John, the alpha effects could probably killed the framerate at higher resolutions, so 720p is acceptable.
Eh, I think I'll be fine with the PC version of the first game and my Wii U copy of the second. Heck, the latter will eventually see its definitive version on Cemu once all the odd bugs are ironed out.
I wish this weren't such a barebones port.
I wish this weren't such a barebones port.
720p without aa is not even remotely acceptable if the portable mode can do the same with a 5-10 fps drop.
if the alpha effects are causing a problem then a bizarre unthinkable option would be to lower them instead of having a game run run poorly and at extremely low settings.
need i remind you they are asking as much money for this as a brand new AAA title.
The amount of overhead you'd need to hit 60 FPS constantly on an action game like this is uhh.... quite a lot. Load can quickly change from doing barely anything to a ton of effects and enemies at the same time in the space of a few seconds. They could have just dropped the base graphics level down but uh... we're still hitting 60 more than the Wii U, and given that's the closet console to the Switches power, is good enough.
(Of course, people out there honestly think Switch is hitting X1 performance levels and wondering why we're not getting it :'( )
I mean, I don't see how a post like this is helpful. "I played game on machine much much more powerful. It looked and played better".
Fully expected result. Thank you John and Richard for the analysis. I'd love to see a more in depth comparison with Bayo 1, 2 and the 360 version of 1
What makes this not a good port. It's at an identical res that the original game was at with an even more consistent framerate.
The lack of additional improvements does not make this a bad port. If the performance and res was even worse than the Wii U version we might be able to justify it as a bad port. It's basically an identical conversion with no downgrades.
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Yeah, I wonder if this was just due to budget/time constraints. I would've liked a higher resolution mode that had the same performance as handheld mode. Or at least some nice AA docked if anything higher than 720p were impossible.
Perfect that's what i wanted, especially in handheld: it's a very chaotic game, and at a lower res / inferior frame rate on a 6 inch screen would have been unplayable.
I'm gonna be playing this before bed and at the office, so all I need is dat smooth frames and I am good. I barely touched the surface of Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U since the console is non-existent in Pakistan. I had to borrow it from a friend who in turn borrowed his visiting cousins one.
It's an improved port over the original. So not sure why would someone would call it a bad port.
If you wanted more improvements sure, then it could make you dissapointed. But the port shouldnt be considered bad because you expected more.
If you wanted more improvements sure, then it could make you dissapointed. But the port shouldnt be considered bad because you expected more.
Ridiculous price for a shoddy port.
Not really interested in the franchise but if anything I'll just jump in with B3.
Not really interested in the franchise but if anything I'll just jump in with B3.
Did they sort out most of the bugs? I haven't checked in a while.
You guys fully ignoring the actual constraints of the hardware not playing nice with the games themselves and putting the blame on the porting effort can't be serious right now.
Saying "shitty/barebones/bad port" implies more could have been done when that's not really the case keeping the games how they are.
Saying "shitty/barebones/bad port" implies more could have been done when that's not really the case keeping the games how they are.
The bugs are still there, i managed to play the prologue and nothing more, there are still a lot of crashes.
Seems like minimal effort was put into this port and yet they want to charge full price? The fuck outta here.
Dang 720p both modes confirmed and it can't lock 60. Bleh
And none of the bugs, glitches and crashes have been fixed.
And none of the bugs, glitches and crashes have been fixed.
It was pretty clear from previews that the Switch was not rendering Bayonetta in resolutions higher than 720p. It's good that the framerate is improved in both modes though, even if it's still a little far from a stable 60FPS (which is why I'm glad Cemu is a thing that exists). Maybe they'll be able to improve things for Bayonetta 3.
because were in a market where we get $40 remakes with all modern tech and assets, a $60 port on brand new hardware that shows improvements comparable to boost modes on xb1x is nothing worth appreciating. the difference between docked and undocked has been as far 720p to 1080p, or 30fps to 60fps(fire emblem warriors).
A 5-10fps boost of over undocked for a wii u game that looks identical to the original platform is not good optimization by any stretch of imagination. Its bare minimum work on portable and no work at all docked.
Native 720p and better framerate then WiiU is good for portable mode, it's a bit underwhelming for docked, it doesn't look like they put a lot of effort into making better for docked mode.
I'm gonna buy Bayo 1, and if I like I'll buy Bayo 2.
I'm gonna buy Bayo 1, and if I like I'll buy Bayo 2.
It's a full price port of a 3 year old game that is running at the same resolution and still drops from its target frame rate. I'd hardly call it good from what we know so far.
How do you know it was a minimal effort ? Porting these game to the Switch/Tegra architecture from WiiU might not be as easy as you think.
Its not like you can get Bayo 2 on WiiU for like 5 bucks either...at least not here.
How do you trigger a crash? I've replayed Bayo 2 on Wii U and never ran into such issues nor have I on Switch. What are people doing that cause crashes?