The LOD on some stuff is the biggest bummer, but oh well. It looked neat to me till he pointed it out.
Digital Foundry: Control Ultimate Edition on PlayStation 5: The Next Generation Tech Review
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Looks great. Big improvement on the PS4 version.
Wasn't the biggest fan of Control tbh, but if nothing else I'm glad it's on Plus so I can finally get around to trying the DLC out without having to pay for it.
Digital Foundry threads are primarily system warrior threads.
Wasn't the biggest fan of Control tbh, but if nothing else I'm glad it's on Plus so I can finally get around to trying the DLC out without having to pay for it.
Digital Foundry threads are primarily system warrior threads.
Excuse me, we are here for the drama and 'lazy' accusations.
Oof.
9.2TF GPU doing work.
So AMD uh.... any DLSS-like tech inbound for these machines? Lol
Don't get me wrong game looks great and I'm planning to play, but curious to see long term how RT plays into things this gen.
Awful. Maybe not even worth downloading now because I wasn't really fond of the game in the first place.
9.2TF GPU doing work.
I haven't watched the video yet, will do later, but it's kinda expected tbh. Control is one of those games that look good even on lower settings, so it's no surprise if it looks good despite being on low settings on console. I don't remember if this is also one of those games that on previous gen console had lower than lowest pc settings, like RDR2. So gen on gen, console to console, low settings is still an improvement.
That said, it's also understandable that people are disapointed that a 2019 game on cutting edge consoles runs on lower settings, but it's just the compromises that have to be taken for such a game.
I see some people freaking out about settings here. This game is very expensive and has extremely high end effects work. RDNA 2.0 is not very good at ray tracing. They are targetting a high resolution at 60 or 30 fps. They decided, smartly, to keep the framerate high and stable at that resolution, which meant settings concessions.
Go checkout how this game runs at High with no RT on an RX 5700 XT if you want to see how PS5 will fair at higher settings (not well at 1440p).
Also people freaking out at low settings makes no sense - as tons of console games always run at low or lower than low settings. It is just that I do not make a video always covering every single release for people to freak about that fact about. Last gen, this was extremely common. This gen it will be the same. Consoles tend to favour higher resolution with lower settings in terms of design.
Go checkout how this game runs at High with no RT on an RX 5700 XT if you want to see how PS5 will fair at higher settings (not well at 1440p).
Also people freaking out at low settings makes no sense - as tons of console games always run at low or lower than low settings. It is just that I do not make a video always covering every single release for people to freak about that fact about. Last gen, this was extremely common. This gen it will be the same. Consoles tend to favour higher resolution with lower settings in terms of design.
This is for both modes - RT mode turns on the RT settings on the bottom.
I mean... I'm glad I got the game for just 20€ on a sale and I'm waiting until tomorrow so I can play it on PS5 for the first time, but for sure they could've pushed the settings a little higher. Like come on, I can work with 30fps as long as they're stable, but 2160p is a real waste of resources.
EDIT: Well, guilty of reacting on just that image, I'll watch the whole thing later. If Dictator says it's good, it's good.
EDIT: Well, guilty of reacting on just that image, I'll watch the whole thing later. If Dictator says it's good, it's good.
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Yeah, specifically referring to the RT but I'm absolutely there with ya, a non-RT High Quality mode seems like it would've been a no--brainer.
I appreciate that. They're working under the constraints of the platform. If anything it's a demerit for the consoles. Goes to show how those RT showcase multiplats are going to perform.
Yep. They're also ignoring how minimal the visual impact of the 'low' settings in question are. I played through this on my RTX 2080 Ti at 40 to 60 fps. I still plan on playing through it on console with RT, and I'm sure it'll be great experience.
Echo this post 100%.
Just finished watching the video and it looks great, especially with the performance and resolution increase. Great video as usual DF.
9.2TF GPU doing work.
If this was a DBZ character who'd it be
Listen to this man, the actual expert. And watch the whole video. It's not that long.
My guess: APU sharing memory bandwidth between CPU and GPU and all around pretty low memory bandwidth for the kind of hardware that's in there.
It can. There's a similar good example I spotted with Cyberpunk in all the RT demos and even in the final game, where a "sex shop" sign has its reflection having a white box around it, as if there was a layer of the sign that is hidden normally but shown in the reflections mapped.
That performance mode looks delicious to me as someone who just finished a 100% DLC run of Control on Xbox One X last night.
On release the RTX 2060 on cost as much as a PS5 digital, and is still a similar price today.
A complete build with that card is going to be something like $1200.
And looking at the steam hardware survey that would be in the top ~15% of builds out there...
To me that's not low-midrange. And it's very impressive that the PS5 matches the performance of a PC's three times it's price.
I think I'm gonna stay out of DF video threads from now on if it's full of posts grunting neandathal sounding stuff like "oof". Reminds me too much of YouTube comment section.
Looked nice on PS4 pro, not amazing, but nice, so looking forward to finished the game using the PS5 version.
Looked nice on PS4 pro, not amazing, but nice, so looking forward to finished the game using the PS5 version.
After seeing the great texture and material work in Miles Morales, seeing a medium setting for this is a disappointment.
People get so hung up on labels like 'low' and 'ultra' when there isn't any standardization for them. Judge the game as it looks on your screen, not on what the PC version called a given setting.
One could look at the video instead of a column of text. One could see that performance is stable, resolution is pretty good, and load times are great. One could compare it to the abysmal console versions instead of the completely idealized PC version running on machines 2-3 times the cost of a PS5. I don't know what people were expecting. This game barely ran on old consoles, and was pretty tough on PCs as well. It's the only PC game in 7 years I had to run on low settings and I still got huge frame drops in heavy action. This version is a huge improvement for console players and probably a superior experience for many, many PC players as well. Thought I'm not sure why they'd care that much in the first place.
This. The fact the PS5 version is as stable as it is in both modes with all the physics going on is incredible. Dunno why so many are disappointed. This seems like a quality port and the way to play Control if you don't have a beefy PC.
Almost at the "I'd have prefered if the devs didn't even tried than to play this atrocity" point, and the Series X video isn't even out yet...
I did watch the video, in full. It's fine, I plan on playing it, but the unfortunate reality of modern Remedy games is that they run like garbage on all platforms, PC included.
It's a native PS5 port with RT, IO optimization and so on.
No lies detected and thanks for the analysis Dictator. I think the version looks good and is a RT showcase. The consoles are amazing, however a PC eats them for breakfast and the game with it's physics is very demanding.
Don't get me wrong there will be games, even from Remedy themselves that push the consoles more while delivering better results. But as always this takes time and a learning curve. Budget is more important than ever, too. For a smaller developer this is a good result, all things considered.
One other thing I'd remind people too, is that Remedy haven't shown much interest in targeting native resolutions over impressive graphical effects (that their gameplay is often designed around) all the way back to Alan Wake on 360.
The volumetric lighting and atmospherics in Alan Wake weren't merely frosting. Same with the time dilation effects in Quantum Break. Remedy push specific features out further than most devs, but it's usually in service of their game design vs just trying to be fancy. If you're after pin sharp IQ... then yeah. This approach won't be for you.
But this has been their approach for quite a while now.
Why someone would expect Remedy to suddenly change this approach for a port of a game nonetheless I don't know either.
The 'lazy devs' and 'awful, shitty port' rhetoric here is fucking cringe. Embarrassing showing from some of you.
Agreed with all of these. From the footage that was shown, I was very impressed to be honest.
Agreed with all of these. From the footage that was shown, I was very impressed to be honest.
I think the problem here is that Control is technically a last-gen game and people expect that to run on higher settings on their shiny new console.
Then again, Control was pretty much already a next-gen game in 2019 minus the not so great character models. The consoles just weren't there yet.
This is true. I literally can't see a difference between high and low on some of these settings when fiddling around on PC. Many things have become very technical, but not easily visible.
With everything ultra RT on highest quality setting dlss at 4k on 3080 strix. This is the only game that pushes it like that. More than Red Dead more than Cyberpunk in spots. Game is brutal in spots. It's up there for sure. But worth it when running like that. Pushes my gpu close to 80c with custom fan curve in some of those hallways.