Digital Foundry Tech Focus - Motion Blur: Is It Good For Gaming Graphics?
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Thank you for this Dictator :D
Object Motion blur at high framerate is absolutely fantastic, Tekken 6 was the first time I saw a high quality object blur in a 60FPS game and it blew me away, primarily cause my PC wasn't able to run Crysis at 60FPS back then and most other games were either console games locked at 30FPS or didn't have good implementation of it.
Doom, Cry Engine games and recent COD games (especially Infinite Warfare) have some of my favourite implementation of OBM. There are games where I'd have liked to see OBM properly implemented like it is in the games I mentioned previousl like Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Witcher 3 (this is a weird one as it disables even camera motion blur outside of few areas) , some Ubisoft games like Wildlands and Assassin's Creed and the Frostbite games (some of these games do have it but it's not good enough imo and not comparable to the games I mentioned earlier in terms of quality).
Object Motion blur at high framerate is absolutely fantastic, Tekken 6 was the first time I saw a high quality object blur in a 60FPS game and it blew me away, primarily cause my PC wasn't able to run Crysis at 60FPS back then and most other games were either console games locked at 30FPS or didn't have good implementation of it.
Doom, Cry Engine games and recent COD games (especially Infinite Warfare) have some of my favourite implementation of OBM. There are games where I'd have liked to see OBM properly implemented like it is in the games I mentioned previousl like Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Witcher 3 (this is a weird one as it disables even camera motion blur outside of few areas) , some Ubisoft games like Wildlands and Assassin's Creed and the Frostbite games (some of these games do have it but it's not good enough imo and not comparable to the games I mentioned earlier in terms of quality).
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Without motion blur I can appreciate details etc around me and the surroundings while also in motion esp in third person
With motion blur I have to stand still each time to take in the visuals because it's a incomprehensible blurry mess in motion with motion blur
With motion blur I have to stand still each time to take in the visuals because it's a incomprehensible blurry mess in motion with motion blur
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Yep.
Good motion blur is great (especially for 30 FPS games). I, personally, don't mind turning off MB for 60 FPS PC games.
Now I can finally shut up about it!
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They completely toned down the obmb in infinite warfare I think between beta an dfull game... which made me sad. I have yet to give it a try though really.
Regarding the Witcher 3 - on PC i managed to modify some files, and well others did eventually too, which add in the full proper camera blur in all scenes in the game.
Desux MKD on PC has per object blur on at all times I am pretty sure, just never on console sadly.
Oh hell yeah. Every game I play I rack that motion blur up to max. Motion blur in games like Forza is especially fucking good.
In general I turn it off unless I know the game has well-implemented per-object motion blur. I tend to dislike camera motion blur in most games and turn it off for performance.
That said, I'll still watch the video because these tech focus features are great.
This video also reminds me of how terrible the motion blur was in Halo 3, which was literally just the same imaged copied and pasted like how it looks when a Windows 95 computer crashes.
Motion blur is probably my favourite visual effect. Even the really basic implementations you see in games like Majora's Mask and CBFD on the N64 are really pleasing to the eye. It can be great for adding a layer of realism or a touch of artistic flair in many a game!
Modern OBMB is absolutely amazing... but of course, like any special effect, is only as good as its implementation. FF Type 0 is the perfect example of how it can go horribly wrong; while games like Bayonetta and Smash Bros benefit from having the visuals being as sharp, clear and readable as possible, so OBMB isn't a good fit there.
Modern OBMB is absolutely amazing... but of course, like any special effect, is only as good as its implementation. FF Type 0 is the perfect example of how it can go horribly wrong; while games like Bayonetta and Smash Bros benefit from having the visuals being as sharp, clear and readable as possible, so OBMB isn't a good fit there.
The short answer is yes. It's very good for gaming, especially for 30fps games. I don't get people who play without it. Do you really want to feel every dropped frame and jank that much more?
It seriously reminds me of the Geforce 3 days when anti-aliasing was starting to become reasonable (performance-wise) to use and the vocal number of people who refused to use it because if they weren't seeing every single pixel, they weren't getting a complete image. What a load of shit that was. Motion blur is crucial to delivering a smooth experience for the eyes just as much as anti-aliasing is.
It seriously reminds me of the Geforce 3 days when anti-aliasing was starting to become reasonable (performance-wise) to use and the vocal number of people who refused to use it because if they weren't seeing every single pixel, they weren't getting a complete image. What a load of shit that was. Motion blur is crucial to delivering a smooth experience for the eyes just as much as anti-aliasing is.
Yep, exactly my problem. In most games I instantly turn it off now and I have little to no problems anymore.
Personally motion blur only starts looking really good at like 100+ fps
Before then it largely looks a lot like Vaseline being smeared on the screen. These days it's mostly a visual trick to make 30fps not look like sluggish vomit. It doesn't help all that much because it still /feels/ like sluggish vomit, though
Before then it largely looks a lot like Vaseline being smeared on the screen. These days it's mostly a visual trick to make 30fps not look like sluggish vomit. It doesn't help all that much because it still /feels/ like sluggish vomit, though
I feel like the offender for me is camera motion blur. It's rarely done right. I love per-object motion blur, but think it benefits most from a very high sample count.
How do you guys watch TV, movies, Youtube videos, etc?
This is one of those user preference things. Personally I play with it on at whatever the dev dialled it into, but will defend user side controls if necessary. Occasionally come across an engineer or producer who questions the need, but using the phrase "motion sickness" usually fixes that one.
Games are different because you control the camera
I don't get MS from MB, but it's not that hard of a concept to grasp that multiple 180s in a shooter like DOOM 4 might make someone's head spin with heavy OMB.
Nice video. I like the suggestion that devs should let us have more control over the blur and its types. More options is always a good thing. Any sort of camera blur will always stay completely off for me, though. And to be honest, I don't even notice per object blur.
Crucial? Nah, not for everyone. And AA stays off too ;)
Crucial? Nah, not for everyone. And AA stays off too ;)
Oh, and this too. We already have too much blur as it is.TSM said:
There's no eye-brain-hand-camera feedback loop in non-interactive content.
As it is with almost all things, good implementation is good, bad implementation is bad (duh).
The only thing that is objectively bad and I'll bitchslap anyone that dare to defend it is Chromatic Aberration.
The only thing that is objectively bad and I'll bitchslap anyone that dare to defend it is Chromatic Aberration.
Are you sure you don't mean Halo Reach? I don't remember Halo 3 having any motion blur
I hate anything that makes my screen blurry. Motion blur, depth of field etc I always turn that shit off in PC games. I play Street Fighter V on PC on medium settings because high/maximum have motion blur and it looks awful. I can't understand how people play like this. Thankfully SFV doesn't have motion blur on PS4.
It's tricky, because a lot of people are completely unaffected by it, and empathy is... well lets just leave that there.
I tend to lower or turn off motion blur when I can. I prefer the clarity. Occasionally in small tasteful amounts it can look good. It's more common to see bad implementation than good. It gets slathered on pretty thick.
Meanwhile I'm hoping Halo Reach gets surprise added to the MCC in 60fps when it relaunches later this year because the blur is so strong I'm finding it hard to tolerate a replay.
Meanwhile I'm hoping Halo Reach gets surprise added to the MCC in 60fps when it relaunches later this year because the blur is so strong I'm finding it hard to tolerate a replay.
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I hated the motion blur implementation in God of War, in addition to the CB rendering it just totally ruined any detail in motion.
But on the flipside I absolutely love it in Shadow of the Colossus, where it really brings depth to all that foliage.
But on the flipside I absolutely love it in Shadow of the Colossus, where it really brings depth to all that foliage.
I had to pause the video at "wave if you love motion blur" <3 :-D
Then you should buy postage stamp sized screens. Your games will look amaaaaazing.
Can someone hmu with a link to a 3" 4K screen for my Xbox One X so all my games look like this? Money is no object.
I actually thought the motion blur in God of War wasn't strong enough. Santa Monica had a hand in developing The Order: 1886 so I was hoping they would have used what they used there. The Order: 1886 is the high bar for motion blur this gen, really fantastic.
Motion Blur is fantastic, the fact that it's missing in The Division, when every visual element is so high quality, really bothers me.
Motion blur has ruined many games for me. The latest being Ratchet & Clank.
As long as they have an option to turn it off i wont complain, but when there isnt its annoying. Most of the time it turns to a soupy mess when you turn the camera.
As long as they have an option to turn it off i wont complain, but when there isnt its annoying. Most of the time it turns to a soupy mess when you turn the camera.
