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Digital Foundry: Xbox Series X Backwards Compatibility Tested - And The Performance Is Extreme
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Sales and deals happen all the time where someone will pick something up that they intend to play but maybe not right away but don't also want to pass up a good deal. Also life happens where maybe you intended to play and you didn't get to or even you started but something else happened and you don't get back to it. There are plenty of scenarios where you have a game that you don't play immediately. PlayStation Plus gives you multiple games every month. I get those immediately because if I don't, they go away. That doesn't mean I intend to play them immediately because I grabbed the games I'm paying for.
Not a lot of impression, I want to know if they work great with og xbox games, or are they even available.
Would be nice if they did this as a patch or a mode for the xbox one game that you could enable for the series x
I would play a lot more of pubg on the xbox
Not significantly, although I am currently playing Hades and recently The Last Campfire on my MacBook.
Do PC gamers commonly buy games, don't play them for a decade, but continue to get excited about the future prospect of playing them? Genuine question, I'm not deep into the PC gaming culture so I really don't know. If that's the case, then I stand corrected, I just find it hard to believe it's not extremely niche behaviour.
Among enthusiasts, I wouldn't be surprised given the ridiculous deals, bundles, and straight-up free games. Whether you want to argue that enthusiasts are niche is your call to be fair.
As an aside, Steam tells me I have 270 unplayed games lol. And that's just Steam. I think this is why many PC gamers refer to their "backlog" as a library.
Sure, I get that. I also bought that BLM bundle that was like 1000+ games, of which I didn't touch. But I don't consider it a "backlog" and I would never get excited about the potential of playing them in the future with better frame rates, therefore that kind of thing is not really relevant to my initial point. Which was my lack of understanding for the hype of buying a new console to play older games with slightly better fidelity, that were not designed for and don't take advantage, in any significant way, of the console's architecture.
A lot of "architecture improvements" are things like cache sizes, bandwidth savers, execution units configuration etc. Which mostly don't /can't be selectively disabled like that.
While there obviously are features you need to specifically enable through code (or at least a recompile) this is "blast processing" class of PR...
While allocation doesn't literally work like that, sufficiently low level code on ps4/xb1 did impose limitation on number of active CUs in BC mode, and they required a recompile patch to enable "full" GPU access.
Frequency meanwhile is purely a system level control, so yes, if PS5 allows BC games to run full 2.3ghz tilt it will make quite a difference.
I bought MHW, played it for about 40 minutes then thought I'd refund it or take it up again at some point
Same with Crash Team Racing
I hope we get an Assassins Creed Unity test in the next video. I would love to know if it can hit 60 fps
There is no way to show it on YouTube. I do t know if they could show it off in the videos that they post on their website for patrons bit I do t know if that would be cost effective for them
With the amount of backlog most of us have, you can absolutely bet that reducing games load times by 80%~ is a deal breaker. Games like RDR2, MHW, CTR, GTA5, Destiny 2 etc benefit greatly from this and don't just become bad games because years have passed. RDR2 is a once in a generation title, for example.
Term of endearment old boy, not an attack, just comedic language to go with my point
Yep, you are spot on about this. I take advantage of sales/deals whenever I can because I don't want to spend full price for every game I buy as well, definitely for games I wouldn't pay full price for to begin with. Plus if I don't like the game I wouldn't feel as bad as buying it cheap compared to full price.
YouTube supports hdr and digital foundry has many uploads of videos showing what games have good examples of HDR
isn't the PS4 pro version also unlocked framerate? You'd expect ps5 to run that like xsx does
It should but Sony is being quiet for too long about the bc performance.
We just found out this week for the Xbox how each game was going to perform and what to expect.
And we found out from gaming journalists. You can largely expect the same soon with PS5.
people had already written the eulogy for ps5 BC within hours of the xsx BC videos going up.
According to Microsoft, it's about three lines of code to detect if an XBox One title is running on a Series X|S and can switch to 60FPS:
This is how Xbox Series S backwards compatibility really works • Eurogamer.net
Microsoft really makes a great effort to provide excellent BC. I can only hope they'll push Sony to go the extra mile and update all first party PS4 titles and most of the popular third party ones so that they run better on PS5.
I used to which is why my steam library is huge, the old steam sales were kind of addictive, not so much these days
I've been out of the Xbox ecosystem for a good few years now but I'm considering a Series S. I've a question about backwards compatibility on the Series S.
As it is a digital only machine, is there any way to validate you own 360 games and get a digital copy? Or, is it simply that you just have to rebuy them?
As it is a digital only machine, is there any way to validate you own 360 games and get a digital copy? Or, is it simply that you just have to rebuy them?
Do you mean physical to digital copy? I dont't think so. But if you have 360 games which are in the BC program you can play them on a One or Series console.
I remember Halo 3 load times on Xbox 360 were long.
Don't remember how long they were on X1 in the MCC though.
Would like to see how fast Witcher 3 loads on the Series X, its faster but still sloooow on the One X internal / external SSD
I'm in the same boat and would love an easy and cheap solution for this but I don't have hope.
I can never remember which platforms can display HDR in Youtube. Does Youtube on either XB1 or PS4 display HDR?
Hmm, not sure for those consoles, I only know about PC for HDR on Youtube.
I just watched it on HDR on my LG OLED (YT app on the TV is HDR unlike Apple TV YT app) and all I can say right now is holy crap and backlogs rejoice.
YT on Xbox certainly doesn't. I just compared it to the video on the TV YT App and holy shit, it's like night and day.
Really cool. I just got myself a 4k 60fps hdr capture device. I'm going to upload so many old games running with the auto hdr feature.
are all those games running at 4k 60? because I was told Odyssey was locked 30 so the Series X wouldnt improve it.