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Disco Elysium, now with hardcore mode and ultrawide support
- Thread starter Lightjolly
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Sounds fucking awesome. I'm not sure I'm ready to dive in for a second playthrough quite yet, but I'll definitely try hardcore mode when I do. It looks like a disaster waiting to happen.
Still need to finish my first playthrough. Life has been getting in the way but I can't wait to sit down with this modern classic again.
Hardcore will have to wait for another time.
Hardcore will have to wait for another time.
What is the point of posting something like this? I don't mean to be a dick but if you're curious just Google it. Why would you basically spread or start a rumor when the information you want is just a few clicks away?
Feels weird to jack up the parameters for success on things that are completely random (literal dice rolls), especially for a game that espouses branched failstate coverage.
Like, why would I want the machine to more often arbitrarily decide negative outcomes I have nothing to do with? The dice rolls in this always seemed like a weird caveat anyway.
Like, why would I want the machine to more often arbitrarily decide negative outcomes I have nothing to do with? The dice rolls in this always seemed like a weird caveat anyway.
Nothing wrong with asking the forum to get that info either. I guess they could have worded it a little better, but they only asked a question.
Because sometimes it doesn't matter how good, smart or prepared you are. Life will find a way to fuck you 😭
I guess. It's a very specific question.
Like I said, I don't mean to be a dick, just seems weird to me. You can Google it, or you can ask a bunch of strangers and hope someone both knows the answer and is willing to take the time to type it out. Why anyone would choose the latter is a mystery to me.
Classic Resetera attempt at a first post thread derail disguised as concern, right here.
It's not completely random, as the dice rolls are influenced by stats.
You shouldn't approach this game with a min/max mentality. Failure is part of what makes it enjoyable.
Poster likely has a personal vendetta with the developer and just want to derail any on-topic discussion.
This. Leading with a worst assumption about the dev is also suspect imo, but whatever that's nothing new for the internet. Like you said if they're that interested they could research it themselves.
Think I might have to try out this mode for myself, I'm not usually one for hardcore difficulties but this is probably my favorite game in years so it's probably worth the potential slog.
It kind of already is, this looks to be an optional mode to crank up the misery, Pathologic 2 style.
Because the negative outcomes in the game are often absolutely hilarious, and failing a bunch only to finally find some success is really satisfying. Playing through a second time, I think it would be pretty easy to try to minmax your way out of failures, just by having a decent idea of which checks are where and how long you can reasonably hold off on them. Making the hardcore mode kind of unfair seems like a good way to force players into failure situations once they already have a strong handle on the game.
I think asking the forum is honestly faster for a topic like this usually. Googling it would take more time than asking a place full of active informed people.
I also personally rather use that as a starting point, have a discussion, then look up more later if I need to. Asking and answering questions is a function of this place.
They'll probably patch that in around the time of the console versions.
I'm not looking to min max anything.
Are the dice rolls seeded in the game?
Like, can I roll something, fail, reload the save and roll and succeed?
Are there dice rolls that result in a killed character that necessitate a save reload?
I've not finished the game yet though I do love it so so so much so I haven't experienced anything where somebody died due to a roll outside of my own character that resulted in a loaded save
I may have once save scummed until i was able to beat up a race realist that only had a 3% chance of going through so I can confirm that save scumming does work.
If you can't understand how asking forum members questions is a perfectly normal function of the place, I don't know what to tell you. You are also not obligated to answer.
I guess they were looking for a value-add to bring back folks that already finished the game, but it doesn't make much sense to me either. Replayability in this comes from trying different character builds. I doubt that anybody played this game and wished there were a hard mode. The game just isn't about difficulty.
Still, I looked at the features to see if they'd bring me back. I want to go back! Give me a reason! As it stands, unless they come out with expansion content or something, I need to take a break before replaying.
Yeah, this is what I mean.
I'm not saying DISCO ELYSIUM IS BAD, but this type of branched path resolution sounds downright Bethesda-like in its implementation.
So I take it you haven't played the game, or are these rhetorical questions? The RNG is not seeded. You can reload to avoid a failed check, but it's often more enjoyable to just go with the flow. Many times there are rewards for failure, and negative consequences for success.
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You can savescum if you feel cheated out of an unlucky roll. There are ways to lower the success threshold in-game, and many checks can be repeated once you level up the relevant skill.
Even if you take damage due to a failed check, you can heal up immediately before you die as long as you've got a healing item on you. Not all failed checks hurt you either, and some failures are actually more beneficial than succeeding.
I think there's more an issue with the first post being very obviously intended to be inflammatory, and then the poster seemingly not coming back to respond, or have anything really to say about the update/game itself.
On that topic, the update is neat! I'll definitely be considering a HARDER-CORE playthrough the next time I experience this masterpiece.
Failure isn't an issue in Disco Elysian and it probably makes when you do succeed really special and memorable. Sounds like a fun role playing experience.
The right started to spread false rumors like that because of them thanking Marx in a speech.
it's an rpg. You can be a racist authoritarian if you want. You can be a womanizing MRA preaching about the cock carousel of you want. You can be a super cop with leftist goals if you want
I'm on my 2nd playthrough and I don't think I've encountered any instant death scenarios related to dice rolls. You can take damage to your morale or health on failed rolls. That could kill you if you have really low stats, but you can also usually heal them quickly before they take full effect and kill you. Even then, the early death possibilities if you start with low health and morale stats like I did are usually pretty funny.
Only instant death I ran into was due to a decision I made that I was advised not to make ahead of time.
Just finished it yesterday. This might be the best game I've played in a long while. Fucking loved it. Probably gonna give hardcore mode a try.
If you liked the game, I highly recommend this piece from Gamespot with the Lead Writer of the game highlighting some design aspects:
If you liked the game, I highly recommend this piece from Gamespot with the Lead Writer of the game highlighting some design aspects:
On the topic of controller support, they ARE still an indie studio working on a game that almost never came to fruition at all... and console ports are planned for this year.
I think the wise bet is on controller support going live on PC with those console releases. Yet, I kinda think this game was designed for M&K. Controller is going to be a workable option but it might not be the best way to play.
I think the wise bet is on controller support going live on PC with those console releases. Yet, I kinda think this game was designed for M&K. Controller is going to be a workable option but it might not be the best way to play.