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Do you still view Xbox as the successor to the Sega line of consoles?
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No. I grew up with the Megadrive,Saturn and Dreamcast and nearly twenty years later I'm still upset about Sega going under.
The Xbox isn't BC with Dreamcast. Sega pitched it to MS, but it was never implemented.
Never heard of this as a thing when the original XBOX was released. Sounds like something some youngins came up with a decade later... which it seems that's the case.
It absolutely was in the case of the original Xbox - its early on support from Sega certainly made for a strong showing, going with a feel and attitude consistent with Sega's late Saturn/Dreamcast output, even from non-Sega third parties.
It's definitely tapered off since then in subsequent consoles, though we get a handful of things here and there that definitely resemble more the kinds of experiences you'd get from Sega than from other platforms (e.g. Sunset Overdrive, Cuphead). I certainly wish there was more of that, but recognition of what made Sega great in the first place is ramping down quite a bit as well, while their modern reputation as relatively-low-tier publisher is replacing it.
It's definitely tapered off since then in subsequent consoles, though we get a handful of things here and there that definitely resemble more the kinds of experiences you'd get from Sega than from other platforms (e.g. Sunset Overdrive, Cuphead). I certainly wish there was more of that, but recognition of what made Sega great in the first place is ramping down quite a bit as well, while their modern reputation as relatively-low-tier publisher is replacing it.
No and I always thought it was weird. I get that the Xbox controller felt similar and that Sega released some exclusives but they did that for all consoles
But the Xbox has never had the Japanese support that I'd need to consider it an heir to anything Sega
Had the OG Xbox played DC tho would've been great
But the Xbox has never had the Japanese support that I'd need to consider it an heir to anything Sega
Had the OG Xbox played DC tho would've been great
Nowadays, absolutely not, but anyone who owned a Dreamcast and an Xbox couldn't have missed the links between the two!
No, absolutely not. There's nothing Japanese about it anymore. Really once the 360 era hit and MS embraced bro-gaming, any Sega feel was lost.
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At first, sure. The timing of it was perfect and there were quite a few Sega games that were exclusive to the original Xbox (and still are, grumble grumble). Although PS2 and GameCube did get their fair share of Sega exclusives too like Shinobi, Virtua Fighter 4, Super Monkey Ball, and the Sonic Adventure ports. That all changed during the PS3/360/Wii era when Sega released games that felt like they moved on from their Dreamcast "roots." Before, it felt as if the PS2/Xbox/GameCube games would be possible on Dreamcast, but when we got to the PS3/360/Wii era, we were seeing a new era of Sega as well. And they were willing to put their games out on as many systems as possible. I feel like Sega expanded on this, and they even now put out a lot of games on PC too. In fact, currently, I think Sega is more friendly with Sony and Nintendo by giving them exclusives like Yakuza and certain Sonic games (for the Wii U at least) than they are with Microsoft at the moment, but I guess that could be said about many publishers right now.
I will say, though, that it still feels better to play Sonic games on Xbox than PlayStation, even to this day. So maybe that has something to do with it.
I will say, though, that it still feels better to play Sonic games on Xbox than PlayStation, even to this day. So maybe that has something to do with it.
The original Xbox was very much a Sega lineage console in my view. Dreamcast had Windows CE, and when it got axed many of the games snd ideas moved over to Xbox. Xbox 360 still had some of that feel, but by Kinect and Xbox One, Microsoft had its own identity. I kinda miss the Sega Xbox.
Wasn't Sega in talks with MS to get Dreamcast games running on the OG Xbox? Add in the design of the controller, the fact that the memory cards were originally VMUs, and the substantial library of exclusive (and non-exclusive) games Sega put out on the Xbox and I definitely see how one would view the original Xbox as a Sega-like console. Obviously that definitely tapered off after the original Xbox but I still feel like there's a design through line. To me, the original Xbox looks like the product of Sega of America. Sega of Japan definitely would not have made a console like the Xbox but Sega of America is a different story. Now, SOA's version of the Xbox almost certainly would've been worse but it is what it is.
Oh I also feel like Sega's consoles appealed to Western developers in a way other companies platforms in the 90s didn't as much. For a time, MS even had the same issues with EA that Sega did. My point is, I don't think it was crazy to view the OG Xbox as a spiritual successor to the Dreamcast.
Oh I also feel like Sega's consoles appealed to Western developers in a way other companies platforms in the 90s didn't as much. For a time, MS even had the same issues with EA that Sega did. My point is, I don't think it was crazy to view the OG Xbox as a spiritual successor to the Dreamcast.
No, as a 40 year old that was there and was really into OG Xbox (probably up there with Super Nintendo for me with nostalgia consoles, and the growing library of original games on the 1 are the only thing making me think of getting one) this definitley was a real sentiment among some even at the time. Not everyone agreed including me but it was a real thing and is not new.
No, pretty much everything that SEGA do that I'm interested in (Yakuza mostly, but the occasional Football Manager or something from Atlus too) usually don't even show up on Xbox, so hard to associate them really.
The original Xbox could be, but Japan fucked up the whole console market by becoming obsessed with mobile devices.
Edit: surprised Sega hasn't tried dipping into that market with a handheld.
Edit: surprised Sega hasn't tried dipping into that market with a handheld.
In my life? Yes. I went from Dreamcast to Xbox, 360, and Xbox One. So it will always be the successor.
In general? Nah. It's doing it's own thing.
In general? Nah. It's doing it's own thing.
While I remember people making the comparison with the original Xbox because of JSRF and Orta, nothing post-DC feels much like a Sega system successor to me. Some games feel like the Sega of old but those have been spread among various systems.
Only in a historical context, it's as irrelevant as the SNES CD otherwise.
No it was definitely a thing. You don't put a Shenmue 2 port on there without people thinking that.
No it was definitely a thing. You don't put a Shenmue 2 port on there without people thinking that.
OG Xbox to an extent because of all the Sega exclusives, the controller with the slots for memory cards/microphone and the superior online features but it was missing a port of VF4 and it missed out on what would become one of Sega's flagship series, Yakuza.
After that, not really.
After that, not really.
A lot of Sega people were involved in the first Xbox, a lot of Dreamcast games had sequels exclusive to Xbox and the Xbox almost played Dreamcast games natively.
I'm surprised there are many in this thread that never knew this perception existed. The OG Xbox was seen as a Dreamcast replacement by many gamers at the time.
Not any more though I do think Microsoft made a real attempt to make the association to Sega when they first started (when you the new player you gotta get any audience you can). But once they started to make their own hit games and figure out where they wanted to take the brand. The attempt to associate with Sega stopped hard.
In a USA is the spiritual successor of the British Empire way yeah. It's as if the Dreamcast lost the elegance of its concept and replaced it with bbbbblast processing.
Back in the day I was a core PC gamer without internet, only reading magazines. Xbox was the alien console from USA while the Dreamcast was a rare, exotic japanese system.
Back in the day I was a core PC gamer without internet, only reading magazines. Xbox was the alien console from USA while the Dreamcast was a rare, exotic japanese system.
