Does "barely legal" pornography normalize pedophilia/reinforce misogyny?
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I do not want the thread to be locked because of rampant accusations against members being thrown around, it's that simple Kinthey.
I think you're in the wrong thread, maybe? Or you hit some major reading comprehension wall because we're talking about porn here.
We're not talking about people trying to actually have a sexual relationship with 18 year olds.
Thinking more about it. If I'm some lonely 18 year old, I'm much more interested in someone my own age than someone in their 30s and up so the pedophilia thing is hard to quantify.
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Do you only watch what's on the front page of pornhub? There is a metric ton of ethically produced pornography by women for women. It's just not free.
I always found disturbing how in some regular porn sites there is pornography where the actors look underage (14-18) I'm sure that they are adult actors, but is still creepy since I can't say with confidence that this is the case
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So, in your opinion, "barely legal" porn is definitively a good thing? What strong argument did you take from the article I linked?
Does that imply that the porn you don't want to watch isn't ethically produced or controlled by women? Watch that Dani Daniels interview I posted. Her own words pretty much tell you much of the porn industry is both controlled by and run by women.
If you're referring to categorization, yes, there is a stereotype that women on average prefer to fantasize and are attracted to romance over visceral instant satisfaction. There is truth to that, go check the gender imbalance with romance novels. Men on average, almost always seek visual stimulation, not read or imaginary.
But that doesn't mean "no women" don't like hardcore pornography. Nor does it imply anything about the industry itself and how ethical you categorize something simply due to the graphic nature.
Didnt some country try to ban small boobs in porn or something?
If an adult women has that body type and is using it to make a living im not gonna try to hurt them. Its the marketing team that goes overboard trying to get all those tags and clicks and sales.
If an adult women has that body type and is using it to make a living im not gonna try to hurt them. Its the marketing team that goes overboard trying to get all those tags and clicks and sales.
Also, I think people being physically attracted to 18-19 year olds is on a completely different level than 30+ year old guys who would actually have a relationship with an 18 year old.
I'm 27. There are plenty of 18 year old women I find very attractive. But there's no way i'd never actually have a relationship with someone that age, at this point.
I'm 27. There are plenty of 18 year old women I find very attractive. But there's no way i'd never actually have a relationship with someone that age, at this point.
I think my only problem is when said "barely legal" pretend to be underage, and particularly in scenarios where there is simulated rape or the "No, No... But I said no... Oh my! Yes yes" type scenarios, which I think are dangerous for teen boys and young men as far as it relates to their sexual maturation, and their social behavior towards Women, because there is no such thing as "No means yes".
Otoh if it's just young women portraying young women (college girls and such), #shrug. As long as it's between consenting adults (including in the scenario) I'm fine with it, regardless of age difference or fantasy expressed.
Otoh if it's just young women portraying young women (college girls and such), #shrug. As long as it's between consenting adults (including in the scenario) I'm fine with it, regardless of age difference or fantasy expressed.
This is absolutely false. Softcore never did that before I moved on and I doubt it did it afterwards.
Legal and not hurting anyone? Sure. Like, you seems to be implying in your opening statement that random people who go to PornHub or whatever and click on the "Teen" section (no actual teens) are some kind of crazy predators ready to prey on actual teens. I don't think that's a thing?
There's tons of psychologists studying the effects of porn on our brains and it does cause issues in excess (what a surprise), yet I don't ever remember reading about how it trivializes rape or pedophilia. You can be damn sure a ton of those people would be making a case for it if it was a thing.
"It's just porn" is always a bullshit defense in discussions of moral character. The entire point of watching porn is the exploration of a fantasy that appeals to the viewer. If that fantasy is predicated upon and inherently rooted in gross power dynamics, the viewer attracted to that fantasy finds gross power dynamics appealing. And to me, that makes them a person of questionable integrity.
I'm not out here trying to take away your busty teen spank bank, I'm just going to think less of you for it.
The point was to not to turn this thread into a shitshow by throwing around accusations that people defending it are pedophiles.
This forum even bans you if you directly attack posters for any reason because they don't want us fighting each other but to dispassionately discuss any topic that is started.
I've also seen a ton of women lose their virginity for the first time, according to the title. I searched the actresses and some of them had videos dated months prior. I couldn't believe it!
Remember that YouTuber who did a strip video with his 18 year old gf and had her pretend to be his underage sister?
He says, while accusing others of making disingenuous posts.
My partner's ex was a pedophile apologist/closet pedophile who had a thing for the girl from Kickass and said such clichés as "age is just a number" and "girls mature faster than boys".
The first girl he dated after my ex was 18.
All legal, and just an anecdote, but clearly creepy as fuck.
Personally, anyone below 20 is so obviously young in both behaviour and appearance that my attraction just kind of switches off. I could imagine sleeping with someone that age, in a casual situation, but a relationship is just unimaginable.
I'd much rather date an adult woman with a career and her own shit going on.
The first girl he dated after my ex was 18.
All legal, and just an anecdote, but clearly creepy as fuck.
Personally, anyone below 20 is so obviously young in both behaviour and appearance that my attraction just kind of switches off. I could imagine sleeping with someone that age, in a casual situation, but a relationship is just unimaginable.
I'd much rather date an adult woman with a career and her own shit going on.
Again, this thread is about porn. Why are people bringing in real life relationships into it?
The internet said Australia banned small breasts in porn, but it wasn't as simple as that
https://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/29/has-australia-really-banned-small-breasts/
I did not know about that, but that sounds quite gross.
Bet he got a lot of hits, unfortunately.
I didn't' say it was a good thing. I said it wasn't a bad thing. It is neutral. It is a fantasy. Being sexually aroused by an adult woman or men is not shameful or wrong.
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What? I have no idea what that has to do with my comment, it was a blatantly disingenuous post and I would like this thread to remain civil and reasonable, I did not insult them or anything, I even said please, do you have an issue with that?
Uhh, 18 and 19 are teenagers.
While many actresses may well be 20~22 roleplaying as teens, it's legal to film porn at 18~19.
What? Porn is either legal, where everyone involved is an adult and is consenting, or it's not legal, in which case it's documented abuse. There is no need to "reassure the viewer that what he's watching is 'legal" because their should be no doubt.
Porn is an act. There are women who have "just turned 19" for the past 10 years. All those people in incest porn aren't actually related.
The people looking up consenting adults having sex aren't also looking up child abuse material.
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I must have misread your comment then, apologies.
This thread shows that the Feminist sex wars are still alive and well.
Watching legal pornography does not normalize pedophilia.
Anti-pornography feminism is shit, although not as bad as the damn TERFs.
Watching legal pornography does not normalize pedophilia.
Anti-pornography feminism is shit, although not as bad as the damn TERFs.
If you're a grown-ass man turned on by the idea of fucking a young woman whose brain isn't fully developed yet, you're pathetic. You may be entirely within your legal rights, but you're pathetic. It's not like women turn into unrecognizable old crones once they've fully matured in their 20's.
Read what I was responding to. There is no way that was my implication.
Was this the Fortnite thing? It sounds vaguely familiar. It was incredibly fucked up. Did YouTube actually pull the video or take any kind of action? I probably already know the answer is "no" knowing how YouTube operates, but I want to believe maybe they did something right.
The term you're looking for is SWERF, those are the feminist who look down on women who work in the Sex Industry (even if it's independent).
This is roughly where I'm at. Much of porn is strictly fantasy, and doesn't reflect insight into that person's behavior or morality in the real world. Game of Thrones popularizing incest porn hasn't given rise to actual incest, just as we all know in this community that video game violence isn't indicative that the player wants to partake in actual violence.
That said, there's creepy and unethical porn even on mainstream sites, and people have to make judgment calls for themselves. The poll options are too binary.
(To an earlier discussion in the thread, I believe the minimum age to join the military should be raised first and foremost to 21. 18-year-olds shouldn't drink, but nor should they be able to sign their life away.)
The two of you seemed to be teetering on differing extremes
"All porn is misogyny"
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"Look for the ethical porn for women by women"
My apologies if I misunderstood you (by the implication of thinking the only ethical porn was "softcore"), but the actual answer to this is far more varied than ideologically seeing porn as one or other extreme.
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