I didn't insult you dude. You are technically an animal, as we all are. You claimed animals are unpredictable and not comparable to humans, so I pointed out the obvious.
Absolutely. Muzzles, especially in very crowded places, are necessary.
...you think that was an insult? Humans are animals ffs. I believe that's what Nerfgun was saying.
True. But I wonder if the focus wouldn't just switch. Rottweilers, Dobermann and German Shepherd could be easy replacements for these people. I think our best bet is mandatory training, at least in the city.
...didn't the dog owner start swinging?
To achieve what exactly?
I don't really understand this statement, the word animal has a definition. The first/second sentence has nothing to do with the point about the dog being destroyed. Of course owners are legally and morally responsible for their pets, what is your point?
Well trained dogs are more predictable than any human. I know you don't want to believe it, but you can put a reasonable amount of trust in a trained dog, and not be concerned that it will somehow revert to a feral state. This is why we trust trained dogs with security work, with rescue work, with guiding blind people across the street, with small children who have seizures or social anxiety... list goes on. But I suspect you are just wanting to somehow put your foot down on this wholly-provable point, so all I can say is what I've listed above, and I hope you do more reading. The answer is no, trained dogs are not ticking timebombs.
He brings the dog on the train, he starts swinging, he can't control his dog.
I don't really care where you want to put most of the blame. She unnecessarily started shit and was overly aggressive to begin with. He shouldn't have reacted in kind. It was a completely avoidable situation on both ends.
I then from NYC would tell you you're an idiot for provoking an animal. It's going to attack you. You can stand. It's not fucking worth it. I take a packed 7 train from Main Street to 42nd to then hop on a packed 2/3 train to Fulton. Back and forth 5 days a week, you'll be fine standing. At no point has provoking a problem over a seat been worth it in all my subway riding history.
Pit owners are like Gun owners, you life depends on the "responsible" nature of the owner which is like gambling when you don't know them
the owner broke the MTA rules, those rules exist for a reason, this "responsilbe" dog owner proved why MTA rules need to exist
You don't happen to be anywhere near Austria, do you? Because I'd offer you to come and meet some.
That is the saddest part of all of this. The dogs always end up being the ones to pay the price in these situations.
