They're all canonically 18 according to the creator.
But also… it is a dating sim-type of game. I also don't really know how much it goes out of its way to sexualize them, all the "normal" content in the game with them is pretty wholesome.
But also… it is a dating sim-type of game. I also don't really know how much it goes out of its way to sexualize them, all the "normal" content in the game with them is pretty wholesome.
Finished my replay of it. There is some text I don't remember but I could just be forgetting certain stuff.
But there is uhh some interesting stuff outside of it.
But there is uhh some interesting stuff outside of it.
So the file system. There is some hidden stuff in there. I remember that there was some hidden stuff in the original files that implied that they may have put the consciousness of 4 people into the game or something along those lines.
In the file system here there are messages from some company and it's employees. There are some interesting stuff in there and if you don't want me to spoil a puzzle don't read this.
In the file system here there are messages from some company and it's employees. There are some interesting stuff in there and if you don't want me to spoil a puzzle don't read this.
If you look into the file system numbered 221 there is a file there that can only be opened at 2:40. This is given by another file and you have to figure out where it goes to.
This file implies that yes, the game is a simulation, in this case a small scale simulated universe, that they labeled VM1. Crazy part is that also talk about a "medium scaled" universe in VM2, I'm guessing implying Salvato's next game is going to be much bigger.
There might be 3 more hidden files like this if that paper is implying correctly what I think it is. Don't know if it's a red herring or not though.
This file implies that yes, the game is a simulation, in this case a small scale simulated universe, that they labeled VM1. Crazy part is that also talk about a "medium scaled" universe in VM2, I'm guessing implying Salvato's next game is going to be much bigger.
There might be 3 more hidden files like this if that paper is implying correctly what I think it is. Don't know if it's a red herring or not though.
So I've read the original, and I'm still pretty early on in this new version. That said, I just wanted to gush about some of the new content and how it's exactly what I was looking for from this director's cut sort of deal.
DDLC is well known at this point for being a horror game. And it presents itself as a cute, fluffy dating sim. But what I think is often not talked about enough is the transition section from dating sim to horror game, where shit has not necessarily hit the fan just yet, but the game takes a serious turn with the reveal that Sayori has depression.
Now the truth of the matter is, for dating sims this isn't particularly unusual ground. Loads of dating sims deal with trauma and personal baggage, but with DDLC it's a little different in that you don't need to be on Sayori's route to hear about it - it's something that's revealed to every player, and (rightfully) the narrative takes a break from the dating sim hijinks to give it the screentime and space it deserves. At this point, DDLC is more a visual novel about a group of friends at a literature club who support each other through tough shit, rather than a dating sim. It was always my favourite part of the VN, and I always wished that the story did more of that with (for example) Yuri and Natsuki.
Anyway, long story short, this short story was more of that! Watching Sayori open up to Monika, and Monika opening up about beating herself up for not being perfect, and how they both do that through poems - this was always the subtext of DDLC's slice of life sections, but now it's the text and it's the explicitly the point of the club. YES, more of this please.
I'm very excited to read more.
Now the truth of the matter is, for dating sims this isn't particularly unusual ground. Loads of dating sims deal with trauma and personal baggage, but with DDLC it's a little different in that you don't need to be on Sayori's route to hear about it - it's something that's revealed to every player, and (rightfully) the narrative takes a break from the dating sim hijinks to give it the screentime and space it deserves. At this point, DDLC is more a visual novel about a group of friends at a literature club who support each other through tough shit, rather than a dating sim. It was always my favourite part of the VN, and I always wished that the story did more of that with (for example) Yuri and Natsuki.
Anyway, long story short, this short story was more of that! Watching Sayori open up to Monika, and Monika opening up about beating herself up for not being perfect, and how they both do that through poems - this was always the subtext of DDLC's slice of life sections, but now it's the text and it's the explicitly the point of the club. YES, more of this please.
I'm very excited to read more.
Is there any info on the performance of the Switch version? I'm really excited to play this, so I'm just waiting on confirmation that it's not a shoddy port!
You know, if you're gonna make this claim, the least you could do is provide a legitimate example of it.
Because this reads like the only thing you looked at about the game is by seeing its cover and instantly making this assumption based on the art.
Which is not good!
Just got an email that the physical copy is delayed to August 31, for some reason I thought the physical was out end of July. I can wait, Just can't click any of those awesome blue "Spoiler" things...
For some reason I didn't expect new poems, but I'm really excited to read those.
Everything you just said is something I've wrestled with about this game and I'm glad that it's being addressed. Now I'm even more excited.
I usually play Visual Novels on my Switch fairly passively as I'm goin' to sleep. Is this a good title for that, or do I need to be much more engaged with it?
It runs really well. I've played like 2 other VNs (Fata Morgana and Winds of Change) on the Switch and this runs significantly better all the way through.
Uhh, maybe? Less like that you need to be more engaged with it and more that it will command your attention.
Going in mostly blind, got it on Switch. After Gnosia, Visual Novels are my jam and knowing a bit of how this game is, it sparked my interest.
edit: nevermind, the warnings upon boot up regarding the games themes of suicide, depression and anxiety got to me. Requested a refund from live chat and surprisingly got one. Sadly, I don't think I would be able to stomach the game.
edit 2: felt better and rebought it, loving it
edit: nevermind, the warnings upon boot up regarding the games themes of suicide, depression and anxiety got to me. Requested a refund from live chat and surprisingly got one. Sadly, I don't think I would be able to stomach the game.
edit 2: felt better and rebought it, loving it
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The funny thing is, having now started playing it, the game instantly opens up with a disclaimer that all of the characters are over 18.
My post was precisely asking if what I'm seeing of the art is representative of the content of the game, because everyone is talking about how it's so good but when I look at the pictures it's... Not evocative of a game I would have in high regards.
It was a genuine question, maybe I should have made it more clear. I want to know if the game is something else despite being presented like these pictures, which yes, I consider heavily sexualized underage characters:
I found weird that no one is talking about it here in era. If somehow that's not what the game is actually about and that art is some kind of parody or something, maybe I could be interested as I really like visual novels.
I don't need to seek help, but you need to tone your rethoric down.
Those images are not meant to be titillating to the player. Visual novels are a genre known for fanservice, but this game is a parody of sorts and a subversion to the genre and stereotypes.
Cus none of those pictures are sexual?My post was precisely asking if what I'm seeing of the art is representative of the content of the game, because everyone is talking about how it's so good but when I look at the pictures it's... Not evocative of a game I would have in high regards.
It was a genuine question, maybe I should have made it more clear. I want to know if the game is something else despite being presented like these pictures, which yes, I consider heavily sexualized underage characters:
I found weird that no one is talking about it here in era. If somehow that's not what the game is actually about and that art is some kind of parody or something, maybe I could be interested as I really like visual novels.
I don't need to seek help, but you need to tone your rethoric down.
My post was precisely asking if what I'm seeing of the art is representative of the content of the game, because everyone is talking about how it's so good but when I look at the pictures it's... Not evocative of a game I would have in high regards.
It was a genuine question, maybe I should have made it more clear. I want to know if the game is something else despite being presented like these pictures, which yes, I consider heavily sexualized underage characters:
I found weird that no one is talking about it here in era. If somehow that's not what the game is actually about and that art is some kind of parody or something, maybe I could be interested as I really like visual novels.
I don't need to seek help, but you need to tone your rethoric down.
Straight from the trailer in the OP
You can kind of tell where it's going from this. *hint* How you present yourself might not be how it really is.
Huh? I legit don't see anything in those pictures that can be considered sexual in nature, except maybe the angle in the second picture, and even that's a stretch. And all characters are canonically 18, so they aren't even underage.My post was precisely asking if what I'm seeing of the art is representative of the content of the game, because everyone is talking about how it's so good but when I look at the pictures it's... Not evocative of a game I would have in high regards.
It was a genuine question, maybe I should have made it more clear. I want to know if the game is something else despite being presented like these pictures, which yes, I consider heavily sexualized underage characters:
I found weird that no one is talking about it here in era. If somehow that's not what the game is actually about and that art is some kind of parody or something, maybe I could be interested as I really like visual novels.
I don't need to seek help, but you need to tone your rethoric down.
If you're seeing anything sexual in those pictures, and finding undertones that aren't there, then yes, you do need to seek help. No rethoric there. Just serious concern.
Yeah, this is what I imagined could be the case. Like "what if your usual school romance visual novel went terribly wrong". I was looking for clarification, thanks.
But judging by the answers in the thread, people are somehow saying they don't see any sexualization so I guess the game hit the nail for both crowds. Not worth it to have this discussion here, I'll take my leave.
I'm not entirely sure how spoiler tag this. It's related to new content at the least so I would at least have beaten the game before clicking.
I'm not sure what triggers it but I started getting emails in the game. Maybe it's a completion % thing?
Very curious where it's going. Gonna play through the main game one more time to get all the CG's in one run and unlock the last side stories.
Some stuff in the 3 I've gotten implying the people who created the VM housing DDLC are deeply aware about Monika's control and the side stories might be her work?
Very curious where it's going. Gonna play through the main game one more time to get all the CG's in one run and unlock the last side stories.
I can sort of kinda see the logic in the second picture being misconstrued as sexual, and maybe the third picture if I were illierate, I guess.
But how in the hell is that first picture hypersexualization of anything? It's literally just a character standing in a doorway.
But how in the hell is that first picture hypersexualization of anything? It's literally just a character standing in a doorway.
I haven't played, but I'm curious if this upgrade is worth it or if I should just go for the free one on Steam
Can't go wrong with free I suppose, but the paid version is brand new and has a boatload of new content. I guess you could play the original and if you like it enough, spring for the upgrade - it's a pretty short playthrough, so even if you have to start over it won't take up too much time.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Especially if it's short (a good thing in my books)
Trying to decide if I want to go digital or physical with this.
This game is relatively short right? It looks like the physical goodies are for fans of the game (having an official membership card whatever that means, stickers, etc). Since I don't know if I am invested into this world/characters yet, maybe digital is the way to go.
This game is relatively short right? It looks like the physical goodies are for fans of the game (having an official membership card whatever that means, stickers, etc). Since I don't know if I am invested into this world/characters yet, maybe digital is the way to go.
It's basically a console port with new features/content so yeah.
Played through it yesterday. Still love the original story and the new content seems pretty fun as well.
Yup, I noticed that too. Lots of interesting stuff is hidden around it seems.
It's essentially a straight remake of the original with new bonus/side content added. Definitely perfect to start with.
Hmmm, I'm curious if the added content make it worth buying it, especially since I'm familiar with the free version already.
For first time players, you are in for a nice ride (not an earthbreaking one, but it was quite the experience). Go in as blind as possible (despite, well, the foreboding warnings here and there).
For first time players, you are in for a nice ride (not an earthbreaking one, but it was quite the experience). Go in as blind as possible (despite, well, the foreboding warnings here and there).
I'm curious how this will work on console actually given some of the mechanics on the original pc version
Well enough, and the framing makes the additional stuff more interesting
You run the game through a 'virtual desktop' which is a fake PC interface
Was gonna wait a bit to get this on Switch but I had 10 dollars in PSN credit so I just got that version. I know it's short anyway. After years of memes and fanart and vague out of context spoilers I guess it's time.
So I've played this for a few hours now and and uh
Spoiler warning for like basically everything don't click unless you have played more than a few hours:
Yeah this game definitely merits the warning it gives at the beginning regarding disturbing content. Starting to see why it's so well liked though. Apparently it's only about half a dozen hours long so I should have it finished over the weekend. Will post again once I'm done.
Spoiler warning for like basically everything don't click unless you have played more than a few hours:
I'm up to the part where Monika deleted herself, stopped for a break right when that happened. I've seen Sayori hanged and Yuri stabbing herself to death after cutting herself on several occasions.
Yeah this game definitely merits the warning it gives at the beginning regarding disturbing content. Starting to see why it's so well liked though. Apparently it's only about half a dozen hours long so I should have it finished over the weekend. Will post again once I'm done.
Finished all the new Side Story stuff. It's nice if a bit superfluous. If you dig the characters and want a bit more out of them then it should be enjoyable.
There are still a few unlockables in the collectible screen that I still haven't gotten yet but these seem to be either really obscure actions in the game or completely RNG dependent. Which is a shame cause I think it's still hiding a few things behind that. I might just look up what people have found.
Final thoughts: DDLC is still a wonderful experience that's best played knowing as little as possible going in. The console port manages to keep that and add a few more incentives but unless you really want more out of it, you are completely fine with playing the free version. I do think Dan Salvato deserves money for this and it is worth the money considering it felt like stealing getting it for free. There is some stuff that I would like to know more but I also feel like that stuff can just be looked up afterwards or will be part of some Game Theory video later.
There are still a few unlockables in the collectible screen that I still haven't gotten yet but these seem to be either really obscure actions in the game or completely RNG dependent. Which is a shame cause I think it's still hiding a few things behind that. I might just look up what people have found.
Final thoughts: DDLC is still a wonderful experience that's best played knowing as little as possible going in. The console port manages to keep that and add a few more incentives but unless you really want more out of it, you are completely fine with playing the free version. I do think Dan Salvato deserves money for this and it is worth the money considering it felt like stealing getting it for free. There is some stuff that I would like to know more but I also feel like that stuff can just be looked up afterwards or will be part of some Game Theory video later.
Wow there were so many lines I completely missed my first play through that are actually super dark
Just wrapped up the.. ending.. I think. What an amazing game. Easily one of the best stories in a video game ever. Unforgettable.
I'm not sure about a direct sequel but definitely something set in this meta-narrative he has. I could easily see it be completely different from DDLC.
It described VM1 (doki doki) as a small project and VM2 (???) as a "medium project". So yeah could be totally different but I would be *shocked* if Monika doesn't crash the party.