this patch in a nutshell honestly. i thought it was over 40 minutes ago!
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Looks like it might actually be over now, but yeah I ran some errands and was genuinely surprised it was still going on 😂
Getting the team to go Roshan in pubs after a teamfight has gotta be the hardest thing to do in Dota. It's fucking infuriating how I call it but they all just decide to fuck off into jungle. This is happening in 6k MMR and just cost me the last two games. Both games had a Prophet that just refused to play too. Absolute insanity.
IT'S UP
- Sange dumpstered
- Pre-existing talents and passives like Blur and Phantom Rush being moved to innate abilities
- No map changes
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Some of these facets just plain suck. Reminds me of when talents were first introduced and some were just way better than the others. What's the point in mixing it up depending on the match-up if one is just superior to the rest. Prime example is Weaver. No reason to go for the Swarm facet when the Shukuchi one is just infinitely more useful.
Also I'm kinda miffed that skills like Counterspell are getting shit on to justify a facet existing. Yeah, sure, take away its ability to reflect spells back and put it in a facet. Even then, the mana thirst facet is wayyyyyy better.
Also I'm kinda miffed that skills like Counterspell are getting shit on to justify a facet existing. Yeah, sure, take away its ability to reflect spells back and put it in a facet. Even then, the mana thirst facet is wayyyyyy better.
Sunsfan is happy.
Not sure what to think of the facets system. It took years for the talent system to get balanced, even now some talents are just straight up ignored, so I fully expect the most facets to be either broken or near useless to start with. Must say I'm very bemused at the Alchemist choices.
Yeah I know right now spells have a bunch of passives that you don't really notice but stuff like watcher vision or lotus heal depending on specific heroes will take a while to get used to
List of changes that seem interesting to me, gonna update as I go through this
- Marci's innate giving the whole team flying couriers at Level 1
- CK having a 50% to spawn an extra illusion with Phantasm, Manta and/or SD Disruption (!!)
- Insatiable Hunter bonuses given to Spiderlings
- March of the Machines back, and can actually heal allies on top of doing damage
- Windranger has an AoE Focus Fire facet
- Doom can sell items for 90% of their price but buybacks are 15% more
- Muerta can always attack Ethereal targets
- Illusory orb can be vector targeted
- Shadow Shaman now has an in-built Aeon Disk on death
- Spectre innate gives her and her illusions perma phased movement
- Spirit Breaker charge piercing BKB by default
- Techies can use backpack items as if they were in their inventory
- Monkey King Tree Dance has no cooldown if he's at full HP
- Allied heroes that attack the enemy getting dueled get perma damage 🤔
- Bane being able to reposition nightmared enemies
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Someone at Valve must hate Treant, he got nothing.
Lich's passive sounds miserable, but maybe it works in practice.
I guess they are trying to make Faceless Void more viable for support play with the timezone facet? I can't imagine why you would use it instead of chronosphere otherwise.
Mars is probably gonna be picked a lot I imagine, nerfs aren't that meaningful while facets look viable.
Muerta passive looks good, though the ofrenda facet is a bit memey? Can enemies break it?
Dear god, I hope those Naga changes aren't as good as I expect.
Lich's passive sounds miserable, but maybe it works in practice.
I guess they are trying to make Faceless Void more viable for support play with the timezone facet? I can't imagine why you would use it instead of chronosphere otherwise.
Mars is probably gonna be picked a lot I imagine, nerfs aren't that meaningful while facets look viable.
Muerta passive looks good, though the ofrenda facet is a bit memey? Can enemies break it?
Dear god, I hope those Naga changes aren't as good as I expect.
Facets as a concept will be really good in a year or so when they've had time to actually redesign a good 75% of them just like talents but we're really stuck with shit like this in the meantime. Why would you EVER pick the facet on the left over the one on the right 😭
Okay played a quick turbo with Chaos Knight and crushed. I'm really feeling him with the innate. Manta feels way more potent on him than before. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets picked in the GG vs Tundra game in a few hours. Willow too.
EDIT: Played some more, heroes that look good so far:
EDIT: Played some more, heroes that look good so far:
- Rubick
- Storm Spirit
- Bounty Hunter
- Nyx Assassin
- Dark Willow
- Legion Commander
- Chaos Knight
- Drow Ranger
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Damn I didn't use my ones for act 1 yet. C'est la vie.
Looking at the patch...does bristleback no longer have an ult?
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His ult is the same as before, it just has 4 levels now and you start with it already skilled when you spawn in.
Oh I see. Makes sense, as much as anything in this patch does.
Tons of teams are still in Romania since PGL and apparently one of their large ISPs is completely shitting the bed today.
Damn, yeah. Just found an article about it. This is wild.
ALERTĂ | Orange a picat masiv în București și împrejurimile Capitalei. Blackout total sau probleme cu internetul, semnalate și în alte mari orașe | Mesajul companiei • Știri București
UPDATE, ora 19:39: Orange România a transmis un mesaj oficial și anunță că lucrează la remedierea problemei: Ca urmare a unui incident de rețea,
Started playing this game heavily again this past month for the first time in 9 years and I've been having a blast! Just in general Dota 2 is such a well made game. Now this patch makes it even more exciting and more even for me against others since now everyone is learning more again and not just me.
So much to learn but the gameplay always feels solid and satisfying. Also man the graphics are amazing as well as the sound design. I love the whole menu dashboard for dota, it's so well done and convenient to check all the characters and the demo mode is so easy to go into and test things out when you're trying to check how things work.
I love the crownfall metagame and that has kept me engaged with trying out some different heroes in my matches and helped me stay focused on learning new things instead of sticking only to my comfort picks.
Getting back into watching the pro scene is the nicest out of any game I've played because I love that you can watch it all in game! When I'm taking a break from playing I just put a replay or live game on from the menu and the quality is so good to watch compared to just watching online streams and I can still hear the broadcasters over it. It's just too good and if I want to go even deeper into learning I can even pick to watch from a specific player's perspective and I can see all their camera movements and mouse movements to really learn how they play their role and hero to the best possible level.
Just so many great tools to learn the game, inside the game itself which I'm really impressed by coming from other games.
Been very impressed since coming back to it. Oh and I love the role queue for ranked matches, never had that back when I played and I definitely like not having to worry/argue about what lane I'm getting at the start of a match.
So much to learn but the gameplay always feels solid and satisfying. Also man the graphics are amazing as well as the sound design. I love the whole menu dashboard for dota, it's so well done and convenient to check all the characters and the demo mode is so easy to go into and test things out when you're trying to check how things work.
I love the crownfall metagame and that has kept me engaged with trying out some different heroes in my matches and helped me stay focused on learning new things instead of sticking only to my comfort picks.
Getting back into watching the pro scene is the nicest out of any game I've played because I love that you can watch it all in game! When I'm taking a break from playing I just put a replay or live game on from the menu and the quality is so good to watch compared to just watching online streams and I can still hear the broadcasters over it. It's just too good and if I want to go even deeper into learning I can even pick to watch from a specific player's perspective and I can see all their camera movements and mouse movements to really learn how they play their role and hero to the best possible level.
Just so many great tools to learn the game, inside the game itself which I'm really impressed by coming from other games.
Been very impressed since coming back to it. Oh and I love the role queue for ranked matches, never had that back when I played and I definitely like not having to worry/argue about what lane I'm getting at the start of a match.
I would also say make each hero feel even more unique given their innate. Main problem is some innates being... placeholder-ish.
Facets might also help balancing of characters as you can nerf parts of the hero that are more carry (or move them to the carry build) without impacting the support part. Sometimes you can feel that some heroes were clearly balanced away from support or carry because their ability to go from one to another in the game was seen as problematic, so a balancing act of making it possible but really sucky was a thing. For instance, void with the new chrono field that "nerfs" the chrono as end game of sorts but works better as a support.
Yeah, you are right.
Can't wait to see how the DOTA team balances it out.
Ye, the more I watch it, the more "this is the Talents patch" once again. From mind blown in scale -> oh it isnt THAT much in terms of real play (viability of many things is eeeh) -> oh this is so gonna change the game as small fixes make everything more unique.
Hope part 3 of Crownfall includes the new hero and map changes for extra niceness.
Indeed, and it's been a long time coming. So much friction against it for so many years because "Leeg does innate passives ewwwww". Don't care! Steal that shit, break it and remake it as dota. And they have. The facets are a bonus too, and there's room there for more to be added. Blessing every hero with support or carry potential sounds like a great move for the game's future to me.
I've been carrying so hard as snapfire mid in like 4 straight games trying it. Having a blast and the full bore facet is just so strong in early game.
I've been wanting to get more into heroes that came out when I stopped playing this before and snapfire is my favorite so far easily
I've been wanting to get more into heroes that came out when I stopped playing this before and snapfire is my favorite so far easily
