Dragon Ball Super |OT5| A new ERA of Dragon Ball [Tag all DBS Broly spoilers until February 1st]
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Here's something I haven't seen anyone bring up, how do people feel about King Vegeta no longer just being Vegeta with a beard?
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Funny enough the new beard is also a better match for the one Vegeta had in Super.
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Funny enough the new beard is also a better match for the one Vegeta had in Super.
This just looks like Nappa with hairHere's something I haven't seen anyone bring up, how do people feel about King Vegeta no longer just being Vegeta with a beard?
I kind of like how they changed Papa Vegeta's face structure. Nice to see their not fucking twins.Here's something I haven't seen anyone bring up, how do people feel about King Vegeta no longer just being Vegeta with a beard?
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Funny enough the new beard is also a better match for the one Vegeta had in Super.
And we haven't seen Nappa anywhere in this trailer...
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Cooler should be the older brother who sees ruling the universe as pointless prompting him get banished (but not really, he just leaves on his own accord) by King Cold and become more powerful on his own.
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I maintain that if they do Cooler he should be related to Frost instead, either as his father or brother.
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"Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all! Nothing at all! Nothing at all!"
I like the trailer.
It feels like an attempt at coherent storytelling with actual emotional depth.. Which is pretty new for modern Dragon Ball.. Makes me forgive the smaller cast this time around..
.. But it's also very blatant about being a fan service product and a "celebration" of the DB movie history.. With Broly, Baradok, and rumours of Gogeta. It makes the whole thing feel a bit too artificial and pander-y for my taste..
... But it looks gorgeous. Terrific colour design. Lovely character designs. Very strong bits of animation from the trailers alone. Characters feel like parts of the world which is also new for modern Dragon Ball. Very strong art direction overall..
.. But it's also a 100 movie trying to tell a grand story with multiple time periods while trying to please everyone and pander to everyone possible while also canonizing Broly, Gogeta, and Minus in the process. I'm not sure how well this gonna turn out for them especially since Nagamine said the original script was 3 hours..
So yeah I'm not sure what to feel about this movie.. But I'm excited for it. It certainly shapes up to be a much more interesting project than what I had in mind when they announced "DRAGON BALL SUPER: BROLY".
It feels like an attempt at coherent storytelling with actual emotional depth.. Which is pretty new for modern Dragon Ball.. Makes me forgive the smaller cast this time around..
.. But it's also very blatant about being a fan service product and a "celebration" of the DB movie history.. With Broly, Baradok, and rumours of Gogeta. It makes the whole thing feel a bit too artificial and pander-y for my taste..
... But it looks gorgeous. Terrific colour design. Lovely character designs. Very strong bits of animation from the trailers alone. Characters feel like parts of the world which is also new for modern Dragon Ball. Very strong art direction overall..
.. But it's also a 100 movie trying to tell a grand story with multiple time periods while trying to please everyone and pander to everyone possible while also canonizing Broly, Gogeta, and Minus in the process. I'm not sure how well this gonna turn out for them especially since Nagamine said the original script was 3 hours..
So yeah I'm not sure what to feel about this movie.. But I'm excited for it. It certainly shapes up to be a much more interesting project than what I had in mind when they announced "DRAGON BALL SUPER: BROLY".
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It really not since regardless of personal feelings, the Future Trunks Saga and even the Universal Survival Saga were written with emotional depth in mind.
Also, 'timelines' isn't the right word. I think you mean time periods.
It really not since regardless of personal feelings, the Future Trunks Saga and even the Universal Survival Saga were written with emotional depth in mind.
Also, 'timelines' isn't the right word. I think you mean time periods.
Yeah, FT certainly attempted that - although this movie seems more determined about it-, but I don't think US did. It's my favourite modern DB thing so far and it had a few emotional moments here and there but "emotional depth" isn't as part of its DNA as it seems to be the case in this movie.
Yes. Thank you for the correction. English isn't my first language. :p
Universal Survival Saga had universes reacting to their own erasing with variety between disbelief/despair/and acceptance. That how much each universe tried to come out the winner with many doing personal sacrifices like the U6 Namekians. So yes, the Universal Survival Saga had quite a bit of emotional depth sprinkled in between all the fighting.
No problem, I have to be more mindful of that.
If they do Janemba, I hope to god they fully flesh out the Demon Realm. Bring over Fu, his parents, etc. I really loathe that its been handled as the official alt universe/Marvel Ultimate canon for the Xenoverse and Heroes games.
Definitely. I feel like Dragon Ball Super: The Last of the Saiyans would have been a more appropriate title. This movie is basically a reteling of Minus while incorporating Broly from the looks of it, and to be honest it makes total sense that everything that happened in the final years of the Saiyan Race are connected. Throw in some Yamoshi, reveal that Beerus is the reason they got wiped out and you have a stew going.
Same. I loved that shot and that brief fight too. Makes it better that they've been going all in with Goku-Freeza being archenemies for awhile nowFrom the new Super calendar:
I kinda love how this has become one of the most iconic shots of Super :)
Honestly I'm expecting it as soon as Vegeta learns that Beerus gave the order this whole time.
but mainly because saiyans = $$$$$$$ and the dragon ball room probably has 100 fanfics ready for 100 different saiyans
Sure. But an actual retelling in animated form would allow that part of that lore reach the international broader audience, and tying it into Broly allows him to return without the story being too contrived in how a 3rd faction of Saiyans stayed alive after the eradication. Freeza orders the saiyans back to planet Vegeta. Vegeta stayed off planet with Raditz, Kakarot got sent to Earth, and Paragus went off to do his own thing with his son Broly. Beerus orders Olanet Vegeta ans the saiyans destroyed, shit happens and 40 years later Paragus returns. And that's how you setup the movie in a natural way, instead of them appearing out of nowhere, and tbrowing them into the whole King Cold Empire ordeal makes more sense than the whole baby rivalry thing.
I'm assuming Broly is the reason Frieza and Beerus decide to destroy Planet Vegeta. His high power level as a baby makes them suspect he's the Super Saiyan of legend, the one that Frieza fears, so Frieza reports news of him to Beerus and that there could be more saiyans like him one day, and Beerus tells Frieza to destroy the planet.
I actually wonder if we'll see Beerus in any flashbacks in this movie.
I actually wonder if we'll see Beerus in any flashbacks in this movie.
If that's a throwaway line than Toriyama is worst than I thought. That's pretty important piece of information
You know what you right I blame myself lol
You'd think my buu rewatch would've made me more aware
Yeah, but it was taken out of the anime retelling, and never mentioned in Super.
I never thought it was as important as the fanbase makes it out to be lol. It was brought up in a super blase manner
lol I kind of like the fact that Bardock literally told no one besides his wife
don't want things to get in the Goku escape plan
You know it's funny, Vegeta being a spoiled snot nosed royal kid ended up saving him. Apparently he was the only one who had the dragonballs to disobey a direct order to return from Frieza.
We don't know what Bardock did after sending Goku off. Remember, Goku going to Earth and Vegeta's destruction was a month apart.
Wow. I hope I have Nozawa's ability to maintain my voice when I get older.
Glad Chris Ayers could make it to dub this movie. Hopefully he'll manage to dub the full TOP arc as well.
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