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Did you think Nintendo handhelds were in trouble?

  • Yeah

    Votes: 284 38.3%
  • Nah

    Votes: 457 61.7%

  • Total voters
    741
Oct 25, 2017
7,678
Ill be honest-i did. I bought a DS on launch and i loved it even with the pretty average launch but once i got my hands on the psp i imported.....lord have mercy i was like "Nintendo is fucked....damn." I felt kinda bad for them at the time because ive always had a bit of a soft spot for their games, but damn that psp was sex in your hands. Ridge Racers just blew my mind like few have.

Did you own both? What was your reaction and opinion of the situation? Of course we know how it turned out and in the end i loved LOVED both handhelds for totally different reasons. What an amazing period in general to be into handheld gaming.
 

Radd Redd

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Oct 27, 2017
8,040
I've still got some umd movies in the closest. I did think the DS was in trouble. The revised DS was sexy though.
 

Arklite

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Oct 27, 2017
3,642
It was unquestionably a better piece of hardware, but I never thought they'd be able to top Nintendo's game output. Shame Sony couldn't find a right spot to settle into handhelds in the end.
 

IDreamOfHime

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,468
DS sucked until the Lite came along. The games were great, but the hardware was cheap and ugly with awful dull screens.

The Lite is the GOAT of handhelds.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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I had both, and I was really disappointed with how uncomfortable the original model PSP was. The graphics and games were impressive but it felt like it was digging into my hand to hold it. I revisited PSP games on Vita and enjoyed them a lot more there.

As for the market, I didn't think Nintendo was in trouble. There was still a huge audience for Nintendo handhelds.
 
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Dr. Zoidberg

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Oct 25, 2017
5,258
Decapod 10
50/50. I wasn't sure how the market would react, honestly. I was onboard day 1 for both in the US. DS had a ho-hum launch and PSP had a killer launch line-up. But after a few months I fell out of love with the PSP. Partially due to game selection over time but also because I grew to hate the loud, clunky UMD format and the PSP's relatively short battery life in comparison.
 

vitormg

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,936
Brazil
Yeah, DS fat was pretty bad, but as soon as I got a DS lite, I knew what I'd be playing and that wasn't a PSP
 

TheChrisGlass

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,607
Los Angeles, CA
The PSP has held up a lot better than I imagined it would.
Got it a new battery and memory cards this year and the games are still great.

Going back to the original DS? Ewwww.
 
Dec 2, 2017
20,674
I remember not much liking the OG DS model much, and the new console novelty of the PSP wore off fast in 2005. When the DS lite arrived then yes, I knew which the best console was.
 

Bane

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
5,905
Nah. I'd been around long enough to see multiple handhelds touting better visuals/power go up against Nintendo and fail that I knew DS would be just fine.
 

sixteen-bit

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Oct 30, 2017
3,680
PSP blew me away at the time but these days I can't really stand using one. Vita was a huge upgrade and I would play one over the PSP 100% of the time. And Adrenaline means I never have to go back, lol.
 

Ultima_5

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Oct 25, 2017
7,675
I️ def was until the lite came out. The psp was such a good device. I️ missing having multiple handhelds honestly
 

Garrison

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,917
Yeah for sure. Psp was an amazing handheld. It was the first one that caught my Interest and since then it introduced me to handheld gaming which had me also get Nintendo handhelds as well.

PSP was very successful but everyone I know had it hacked. Guess that messed up game sales like crazy. Sony also never got it right with portable games, always trying to make "portable versions" of existing console games and non existent marketing.

Nintendo on the other hand had portable exclusives right from the get go with Tetris and Pokemon.

I think they started to understand and were headed in the right direction games wise on the vita with tearaway and other games here and there but it was too late.... Vita probably murdered to save the PS3.
 
Oct 27, 2017
39,148
PSP felt like it was made exactly for people like me.

It was like a PS2 in your hands that had even more stuff like multimedia features.

You could play PS2 quality games, handheld quality games, watch/listen music and videos or even entire films, browse the internet and more.

It was so mind blowing at the time.
 

GamerJM

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Nov 8, 2017
15,668
My prediction basically ended up coming true: I thought both would do very well but the DS would do better because of stuff like Pokemon.
 

BasilZero

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Oct 25, 2017
36,429
Omni
I didnt think Nintendo handhelds were in trouble but the PSP was and still imo the best handheld game system and imo the better of the two systems between DS and PSP.
 

Truly Gargantuan

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Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,034
Even back then the narrative was "Sonys gonna have to put in A LOT of work to knock Nintendo off the handheld throne."
 

brinstar

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Oct 25, 2017
10,306
The PSP was impressive to me but I knew DS would be fine because it would have Pokémon
 

TortadeJamon

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Dec 23, 2018
908
Yes, and despite its flaws it was far better than the DS, in large part because it didn't give me crippling hand cramps like the other one did. A direct followup to the GBA would've been much better than what we got.
 

tokkun

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Oct 27, 2017
5,420
PSP was very successful but everyone I know had it hacked. Guess that messed up game sales like crazy.

I never really got this argument, because the DS was even easier to hack.

PSP required people to install custom firmware, whereas DS flashcarts were being sold for $30 by shady vendors all over the place.
 

In Amber Clad

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Aug 26, 2018
5,503
London
PSP sure had some hype behind it. My dad even bought one, and he has never had any interest in games at all. He loves his tech though, and bought it more for the multimedia capabilities. Then he got bored of it and gave it to me \o/

I remember being very underwhelmed with the DS at reveal, personally. I did eventually get one (a DSi) and had a fair bit of fun with it, but I ended up preferring the PSP.
 

Ashes of Dreams

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May 22, 2020
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PSP > DS in every single way. Hardware, game library, the feel of the system. I hate the stylus touch controls and the only thing the two screens meant for me was that DS/3DS games are doomed to die on those platforms unless the devs care to give them major overhauls. So, yeah, I thought Sony was at least going to be competitive to Nintendo in the portable space for awhile. Hell, I used my PSP to watch anime I downloaded, listen to all my mp3s on long car trips, read comic books, browse the internet. The PSP was essential to my teen years. It was my smartphone before I had a smartphone, just without the phone part.

It was clear pretty early on into the Vita's life that such a battle was lost, of course.
 

Jakenbakin

"This guy are sick"
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Jun 17, 2018
11,883
I so fucking loved my PSP. I have been a Nintendo and Sony fan my whole life more or less, and those were some obnoxious years first from my Sony brethren, then my Nintendo brethren. Two great platforms killing it and the internet fanbases seemed to hate it haha.
 

Viewt

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Oct 25, 2017
2,815
Chicago, IL
The DS absolutely was in trouble. But the combined push of the DS Lite and an absolutely stellar rush of software post-E3 2005 erased any ground Sony had built up. The PSP was still a big success and a super cool system, but it was only a real contender for the throne in its first year.
 

Jamix012

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Oct 28, 2017
289
I think if it came around today, I'd think Ninty was in trouble, but around DS launch I was a fanboyish literal child and was convinced nothing could dethrone them.
 

.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
22,276
Great hardware and I did think it was the more compelling device at the time. Still do. Shame how Sony botched the follow-up.
 
Oct 30, 2017
8,711
Once the DS Lite launched, the platform really took off.

The DS really found its groove in time and the DS did so well. The first party titles were well designed around the system's limitations and the touch screen was super fun for the time opening up new gameplay ideas.

That being said, the PSP was awesome. But it had issues.
- Quality control problems with dead pixels.
- Long load times with UMDs
-Games essentially trying to be console games and thus often being watered down PS2 ports. System limitations were not often favorable for what the game was trying to do.
-Battery life was not as good as the DS.
-Memory Stick Pro Duos were not great as SD cards were cheaper for the time.

I absolutely loved my PSP. Especially with the ability to run homebrew. Having music and videos to watch on the go was great as well. Definitely some really awesome gems on the PSP, too.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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I admit that I didn't understand the appeal of the DS until I played one 2-3 years into its lifecycle. Then I completely understood it and felt like it was the best handheld on the market.

PSP didn't interest me, but I thought it looked like the better device for the average consumer at launch.
 

Radd Redd

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Oct 27, 2017
8,040
The biggest reason I bought a psp was because I didn't have an MP3 player at the time and the psp could play mp3s and movies. PSP playing games we're a bonus. I'm shocked it didn't do better.
 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
14,995
Owned both, but I just never fell in love with any of the games.... I used it 100x more as a portable SNES and PS1 machine than as a PSP.

Those memory stick prices were brutal though. At least until adapters became common place to use SD cards.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
32,149
I STILL prefer the PSP compared to the DS (and 3DS). Just has a great range of games that I love returning to - from those excellent Ridge Racer games, two exclusive (and excellent) Ryu Ga Gotoku games, tons of great Capcom games etc.
Still one of the top 3 handheld libraries for me no doubt.
 

PianoBlack

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May 24, 2018
6,668
United States
Obviously the DS ended up selling a lot more, but I'd absolutely take the PSP and indeed its library over the DS. There's a reason it's basically the only successful non-Nintendo handheld ever to exist.
 

Stowaway Silfer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Was too young to know or care about sales stuff like that. I will say though that once I became interested in that and found out the DS was not only more popular than the PSP but so much more popular, that blew my mind. I liked the DS and some people around me had one but EVERYONE had a PSP lol. I liked it so much more and It just seemed so much cooler than the DS with its games and media capabilities that I couldn't believe it was less popular.
 

Jhey Cyphre

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Oct 25, 2017
3,105
By the time I got a PSP the writing was on the wall. Still, for a while the PSP was my go-to handheld. Mostly because of the Persona series.
 
Jun 10, 2018
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Nope, because even back then I knew one had Pokemon and the other didn't.

Sony honestly never had a chance. They were going up against the progenitors of handheld gaming itself. It was like spawning on the enemy team's home base.
 

Hailinel

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Oct 27, 2017
35,527
I always thought that the games press people celebrating the PSP as the new king were extremely premature.
 

bionic77

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Oct 25, 2017
30,895
Like with most of this shit I don't know but Sony was dominating the console industry so it didn't seem like a stretch that they could also dominate handhelds.

I definitely thought Nintendo was trouble.

But at the end gen I thought the DS was one of the best consoles I had ever played. The second screen and touch were both genius moves.
 

kurahador

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Oct 28, 2017
17,593
Nah. Playing a game in dual screen really blew my mind back then that a mere pretty graphic isn't suffice for me. And for PSP, it took years for the graphic to actually impress me with God Of War and Kingdom Hearts BBS.
 
Absolutely, I thought that Nintendo was done in the handheld business.
Granted, I was in high school, but still.

Nonetheless, my high school friends and I went to Best Buy on a school trip and we all bought a DS - and then played touch screen games like PictoChat and other wireless games on the trip back. We then brought it on every extracurricular activity throughout high school.

It was within a high schooler's budget and it was a ton of fun - nobody cared about the PSP after that.
The only people I personally knew with a PSP were adults...

And once the Lite dropped? Yeah, DS just took over.
 
Dec 11, 2017
2,538
I imported a launch PSP-1000 from Japan with Ridge Racer.

I was pretty convinced this was going to be the dominant handheld, but by the end of the generation I was all in on my DS.
 

Unknownlight

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Nov 2, 2017
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I wasn't thinking in terms of sales back then, but I'll go against the grain and say that the DS (Lite, specifically) felt more "futuristic" at the time. The PSP had better graphics, but everything else about the DS felt so novel. The weird dual screens felt like something a sci-fi show would make up without thinking about the practicality of it. Playing Nintendogs felt completely unlike anything else—petting them with the (still new and novel) touch screen, speaking into the microphone and the dogs reacting appropriately, the simple-but-effective AI of the dogs... I could show it to anyone and everyone would think that it was incredibly cool and new and a lot of them started wondering if they should buy a DS too.

The PSP was great too, but it felt like more of the same.
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,165
I was super impressed with the PSP until I saw a friend of mine take a UMD out of the PSP and put in a new one. It looked fragile, clunky, and something that few parents would feel comfortable handing over to younger kids.

Still glad the PSP exists. We got some great games and it pushed Nintendo to make some much-needed edits/rework for the DS Lite (which I think is in the top three best pieces of hardware they've ever made).
 

Garrison

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Oct 27, 2017
2,917
I never really got this argument, because the DS was even easier to hack.

PSP required people to install custom firmware, whereas DS flashcarts were being sold for $30 by shady vendors all over the place.
All talking from my own experience of course but in reality something being easier to hack isn't going to necessarily equal greater numbers just due to it's ease. Most ds users I encountered during the time where kids who got their software from mom and pop. Meanwhile all psp users I knew where older players who either got psps hacked by themselves or had it hacked for them.