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EA "monitoring situation" with Ronaldo following rape allegations [Update: Images restored]
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On places like reddit, the reaction to this was mostly negative sadly.
But that is the thing, Ronaldo isn't universally loved in the football world. He has probably more haters than idolizers.
Do we see the same reaction now from the haters because they reinstated it?
Tbh it could have been FIFA, it's their license and if they tell them to go back to the original marketing I think they legally have to (or you know lose the license and be sued)
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Every reddit thread is filled with "innocent before proven guilty" really, which imo is a fine personal stance to take even if I disagree with it, but an awful one to push onto others when facts are there for people to draw their own conclusions.
To the far left a rapist and to the far right a racistI was just on the EA website:
Keep in mind that they only removed his "face" from one place. It was still plastered all over the entire page all the time.
It's in the OP, at the bottom - and I just checked they haven't changed it back yet - weird.
No one is universally loved but I'm pretty sure he was at some point the most followed star on the planet. He's a money maker.
Ah, from the EA side.
Was only checking and thus talking about the EASports site.
There the background trailer never changed afaik.
I've still been seeing the FIFA 19 commercials on a daily basis since the accusation, which includes Ronaldo making an appearance in it, so still feels like this was really nothing from the start by EA, and they just wanted the appearance of giving a shit.
Not to say I'm shocked, because I'm not, but it is what it is.
Not to say I'm shocked, because I'm not, but it is what it is.
Is this not proof enough?
They're his words.
Is there a full statement?
I really want to know the whole backstory.
I'm no trying to " Drive-by. Disregarding OP" it's just a normal conversation.
Looks pretty straight forward. Woman reported rape, now documents come out in which he admits it was non-consensual. Not sure what conversation is to be had.
He admitted having sex but we need more details to judge. We are talking about rape here.
He admited she said no and told him to stop. That means it's non-consensual. That what rape is.
People seem to defend that which they could see themselves doing.
Some will see that statement and say "well yeah women say no and stop a lot and then eventually say yes, you gotta keep at it, that doesn't make it rape."
There's a fundamental disconnect on some people being able to see women as anything but obstacles to overcome.
Some will see that statement and say "well yeah women say no and stop a lot and then eventually say yes, you gotta keep at it, that doesn't make it rape."
There's a fundamental disconnect on some people being able to see women as anything but obstacles to overcome.
It's like people would rather just argue without knowing the full story or something.
User Banned (Permanent): Dismissing rape allegation, victim blaming.
Ok I'm not trying to defend him here but rape is a dangerous accusation and can ruin his life forever.
Did she agree to have sex with him and when they were doing it she said no ? Yes he should have stopped but why did she do that ?
Again, I'm just having a conversation here.
Typically with consensual sex the other person you just met they doesn't say "no" and tell you to stop throughout.
Seriously. "Yes he should have stopped but why did she do that?"
What on Earth. I don't even know if I understand how somebody can actually say that.
What on Earth. I don't even know if I understand how somebody can actually say that.
"He should have stopped" when she said no and told him to stop is the end of the conversation. He clearly had no problem hearing her.
Its pretty blatant what you're doing here btw. Ciao.
He should have stopped when she said no.
Why does it matter why she did that?
The conversation is meaningless. It's rape.
I'm not trolling come on.
I don't node my head to everything I hear and say yes.
Anyway let's wait for the court decision and see.
I'm going to tell you something amazing. It doesn't matter what the reasons are for one party saying "stop" "no" "I don't/no longer want to do this" or any variation thereof. What matters is that if the other party ignores that, it's rape. It really sounds like you're sniffing around for some reason to invalidate the claim of rape, but she said he raped her and then he said that she did, in fact, say no and stop. It doesn't matter if it started consensual, how she was dressed, why she was there, or why she changed her mind. He didn't stop when she said no. Clear cut. It's rape. Yet you're still worried his life will be unfairly destroyed.
Does it matter why she said no?
If she said no after starting, and he continued anyway, do you believe that is rape?
People like you are why sexual consent should be taught in schools.
Rape is a dangerous act that can ruin a woman's life forever
This guy already got his photo back on his multimillion selling video game
Sex can start off consensually and end non-consensually. In such cases, it is still considered rape.
Erm... You never had someone say no or stop during sex? Thats perfectly normal, it's what you do after that's the problem, if you don't stop then that's rape.
Shit doesn't look good for Ronaldo but context matters, who's to say didn't stop?
Not here to defend him, but how can we be sure that these leaked documents are legit? Because isn't it odd that someone in his position would just admit to rape so easily like that or make himself look so bad?Is this not proof enough?
They're his words.
edit- disregard this post, I was not following this closely enough and had the origin of the leak wrong
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it's supposedly a questionnaire between him and his lawyer, I'm guessing he'd want to tell the truth to him.
By definition that would be rape
Legally speaking
BBC tried interviewing youth about what they thought rape was and the answers were very, very variable (this was even pre-Drumpf election and pre-Brexit if I remember right).
Pretty much every kid missed the mark on what constitutes rape, it was pretty eye opening that people don't understand how consent legally works
That's a valid point, but I guess the fact that he noted that she said both multiple times kind of implies it but it also happens to be her allegation that he didn't stop at any point. Her pushing him away and saying 'no' was all before he even pulled her into the bedroom according to her.
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Consent is something that can be revoked at any time. Even assuming that she did consent at one point but then clearly said no during it and telling him to stop, if he continues after that point it's rape.
Spiegel published the papers, which are signed with his signature
https://en.as.com/en/2018/10/07/football/1538946647_100226.amp.html
Just asking questions(Trademark pending)
I feel like this is probably the most likley reason why the images were reinstated - FIFA could have intervened in the matter.
Just asking questions! Are you really that oblivious?
She didn't even cry, it can't be rape!
I know you only want to enter the thread and just ask innocent questions from a place of ignorance but we are talking about anal rape. Hmmm, why did she ask him to stop? Why did she agree to have sex with him and then suddenly want stop at forced anal? It's surely a conundrum.