I hope everyone doing crossgen doesn't mean we won't be getting the first real next gen games until 2023
EA's upcoming games will let you "upgrade" them to run on next generation consoles for free
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Sort of like all of you responding to him saw Sony and crossbuy mentioned and had a fit. OMG everyone who posts any thing in this thread is a weirdo fanboy /s
But seriously I took the infographic of crossbuy as a response to the posts following the OP questioning if Sony would implement such a thing.
And maybe unlocking higher res textures which probably wouldn't be on the original disc/download
A quick search shows Little Big Planet 3 was not cross-buy even though it was cross-platform and launched after the PS4 was out. It looks like pretty much all others were PS Network games.
That's pretty much what I expect. Major 3rd party devs aren't moving to next-gen for 2-3 years IMO. There won't be nearly as many early next-gen adopters because of the pandemic, higher price, and limited supply.
Jason said Sony is making PS5 exclusives. I'm sure some third parties are as well (like Harry Potter)
Sports games are a different case, they will go forever.
The case and point is still that both those version were completely different (PS3/PS4 architecture not similar at all so extra work to port it to the new platform). PS4/PS5 doesnt have this issue.
It would be pretty weird if PS5 had separate versions of games, considering PS5 has BC and games can easily be patched (or designed in development) to take advantage of PS5, just like Series X will.
There is difference between offering crossbuy on indie game's (flower) and big games (last of us)
as long as there is no last of us 2 remastered on ps5 I'm sure the world won't burn.
Yeah, I think it will happen and I mentioned the differing architecture when I mentioned The Last of Us for both platforms.
However I don't think it's absolutely 100% certain. You said it will happen because they did cross-buy in the past, however the cross-buy that they did in the past isn't exactly the same as the cross-buy that Microsoft promised, or that EA seems to be talking about here. Previous Sony cross-buy seemed to be focused on smaller PS Network games, and excluded their few big name releases.
Expected from EA of all companies?! No, not in the slightest.
I love how in every thread like this we get to hear about how Sony did it first, yes they technically did and nobody cares, people want to know if they're gonna do it now. Plus because it was only for indies some are worried and want to know, Last of Us wasn't free, BF4 wasn't free, Resogun wasn't free except for PS3/Vita, PS2 games weren't free, is it really so hard to hear praise for EA or MS.
The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, look how that turned out. People just want to hear it from them.
The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, look how that turned out. People just want to hear it from them.
If there is TLOU 2 Remastered, I'm sure people won't buy it in tons like the first because the original game will be BC.
They were the first to made you pay for The Last of Us on PS4 even you had it on PS3.
I remember being really happy about this but in retrospect, $10 for the equivalent of somebody going into the graphics settings for you was a rip off.Yup!
Love that Microsoft is pushing for free upgrades as a standard and looking forward to when Sony eventually has to follow.
Again, not the same architecture and engine. Improvements were confirmed at Cerny talk. And I'm sure MS sells remasters as well.
And some people are concerned about TLOU 2 remastered when they aren't even buying the game once lol
I really have no idea what you are getting at. Every platformholder made you pay for "enhanced ports" around that time. The Last of Us released a year later on PS4 with a complete technical overhaul and all DLC included. It's a different SKU, not a cross-gen game releasing at the same time on 2 platforms.
MS have confirmed they're not selling remasters. Beyond that it's up to the individual publishers.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulta...-series-xs-remaster-free-utopia/#2cecda66614b
So hopefully Sony (and third parties) will follow suit on this as well.
That's essentially BC. Cross-buy, "X Enhanced", or Smart Delivery gets you new assets and display options entirely.
Cross buy is not the same thing as smart delivery though. With that you buy one disc and it works on both, but downloads different files.
PS4 cross buy was a digital only thing, you couldn't buy a ps3 version of TLOU and have it work on ps4.
That is really immaterial to this discussion. This is about announced policies from this gen To next gen. It's of no import what anyone did 7 years ago. What's important is what's going to be in place by November
This needs it's own name for Sony, should call it smart play. One version for all.
EA what about one disk or download for all consoles? >:D
Honestly, i think this is the only Next Gen feature where the conversation around it makes it even more stupid and complex to understand something that was supposed to be simple.
Remasters will still be sold.
However, Crossgen titles you just have to buy one to get the other.
Not that hard to grasp so far. Ok.
However, with Retrocompatibilty, you can already play the previous console game on the new one. Albeit, probably no enhancements. Or minor ones. So, if you are buying the console at launch or just early, this feature is not that huge for you. You either already have the game playable or you are just buying it for the new console anyways.
Regardless if you have it on Physical or DIgital, once you put the old disc into the new console, it would "upgrade" which essentially means it will download a patch (most likely) with enhanced stuff. Or maybe it will just unlock Graphical options internally. ( Nioh's different modes is a more clear example).
This tells me the most obvious thing... They are opting to not sell you the game again and instead give you a minor boost for console leaping for free and turn that into a Marketing positive.
They are not putting any extra work for the "Upgraded" versions of any game. They Spec for the big boy, and lock stuff back down until it's the best it can be on the older consoles. THey don't expend any extra money on it, but get the added benefit of Positive marketing of "We are giving you the upgraded version of the game for FREE!! It's like buy 1 get 2!!!"
Thus... it's fucking stupid to be arguing over any of it, in less than 6 months it will be a non-issue to be discussed anyway.
Remasters will still be sold.
However, Crossgen titles you just have to buy one to get the other.
Not that hard to grasp so far. Ok.
However, with Retrocompatibilty, you can already play the previous console game on the new one. Albeit, probably no enhancements. Or minor ones. So, if you are buying the console at launch or just early, this feature is not that huge for you. You either already have the game playable or you are just buying it for the new console anyways.
Regardless if you have it on Physical or DIgital, once you put the old disc into the new console, it would "upgrade" which essentially means it will download a patch (most likely) with enhanced stuff. Or maybe it will just unlock Graphical options internally. ( Nioh's different modes is a more clear example).
This tells me the most obvious thing... They are opting to not sell you the game again and instead give you a minor boost for console leaping for free and turn that into a Marketing positive.
They are not putting any extra work for the "Upgraded" versions of any game. They Spec for the big boy, and lock stuff back down until it's the best it can be on the older consoles. THey don't expend any extra money on it, but get the added benefit of Positive marketing of "We are giving you the upgraded version of the game for FREE!! It's like buy 1 get 2!!!"
Thus... it's fucking stupid to be arguing over any of it, in less than 6 months it will be a non-issue to be discussed anyway.
I'm sure they'll have some kind of branding for it. I know a lot of people have doubts that Sony will even do this, but I'd be surprised if they don't. With more and more publishers seemingly getting behind it, I imagine Sony will follow suit.
Personally I'm hoping Activision use Smart Delivery on Series X so I can get the best version of COD 2020 out of the box. I had my doubts they'd do it, but with EA jumping on board...well, maybe there's a chance.
So much misinformation in this thread already.
Sony had crossbuy for some indie titles and had the option to upgrade for a fee on some larger games.
It didn't apply to all releases.
They haven't confirmed yet that they'll support crossbuy for ps5 though they almost certainly will.
MS has committed to smart delivery for all first party releases.
The system is open for publishers to use.
Smart delivery is (and should always be) native versions. This is what MS is doing. It should not be enhanced BC. We already know the PS4 versions of TLOU2 etc. will work fine on PS5.
Sony had crossbuy for some indie titles and had the option to upgrade for a fee on some larger games.
It didn't apply to all releases.
They haven't confirmed yet that they'll support crossbuy for ps5 though they almost certainly will.
MS has committed to smart delivery for all first party releases.
The system is open for publishers to use.
Smart delivery is (and should always be) native versions. This is what MS is doing. It should not be enhanced BC. We already know the PS4 versions of TLOU2 etc. will work fine on PS5.
What narrative did I try and create? I literally said in that post that I think Sony will follow suit and do exactly the same. People just want to hear them make that commitment. I also didn't mention Microsoft at all, so I'm not sure why that's relevant here either.
You people need to chill out. Sony isn't being 'attacked' here, and not everything ties into console warz. This forum is getting increasingly tiresome.
Oh stop this. It's the same game. Is Star Wars on VHS a different film than Star Wars on DVD, because the DVD is on a different player, looks better and has a directors commentary? Of course not.
Let's not pretend that either of us actually know the amount of effort that it takes to upgrade any game whatsoever, whether it's made by Naughty Dog or one of EA's developers. We don't.
What we do know is that, regardless of effort, we're not being charged for it anyway. So it doesn't matter.
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yeah it's odd, they all sold remasters at the start of and during the gen. should uncharted remasters /collection have been free for PS3 owners? What about the Halo remasters and collection? There's some odd arguments being banded about this thread.
In any case, though not official yet, it's good to kind of get a confirmation that Sony will be offering the same deal re cross gen games etc as many with any common sense predicted. I sure hope we can move on from this argument now...
We still need confirmation for this generation. A small number of examples of past precedence cannot be taken as read for the future. Just ask those of us who wrongly assumed PS4 would get PS1 support like every single system prior.
Sony had a $10 upgrade program offering upgrades for the big 2013 AAA releases:
How to Upgrade Select PS3 Games to Their PS4 Versions
Assassin’s Creed IV Black Flag, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Watch_Dogs, and Battlefield 4 are the supported titles for this program. When you buy the Blu-ray Disc or digital version of these select PS3 games, for a limited time, you will receive an entitlement to download a PS4 digital copy of the...
blog.us.playstation.com
Hoping these policies will avoid a Bastion situation for myself this upcoming gen. Bought the Xbox 360 version but missed the one month window where the Xbox One version was available for free to those who bought on X360. I didn't miss the free upgrades on Castle Crashers and Mark of the Ninja...just Bastion.
Not only that, but the 5th post explicitly bought up Sony....
This is good to hear. If individual publishers are doing it its good news for alot of games. A reminder there were a handful that did this for a fee the start of this gen so precedence is there.
The biggest question, I would like to know too.
I'm not pretending anything. ND has been pretty open about Last of Us PS4 development. Unless you're saying people at ND are lying.
