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jungius

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Sep 5, 2021
2,353
Lmao, what??? Not even close. This runs in 1080p-around 1440p on PS5 while PC is super sharp and clean and can be native 4K. The PS5 version looks awful on my 4K TV, just incredibly low resolution overall, not just assets or specific scenes, but from menus to normal gameplay the whole video output is not higher than 1080-1440p which gives me a vibe of playing a 15 year old console game without enhancements.

Zoom into my 4K Screenshots or throw them on a TV and you will see how awful it looks. It might looks ok on your 1440p phone here looking at them, but the resolution is awful.

Here are some native 4K screenshots I did with the beta in comparison to my now PS5 version in a Slider comparison.
Please visit your PC if you can for this.



PS5:
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PC:
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PS5:
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PC:
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How is this even remotely the same? Tell me.
The port looks like Dogshit. Resolution wise, but also now that I see it, asset wise (The floor, wtf).


I honestly want my money back and a PC version.....

hey, lets play with us gamepass user if you want cheapo PC version
 

FolderBrad

Member
Oct 25, 2017
893
Ugh this needs some dialog QoL ASAP. The pause is too long during auto play. You can't pause during auto play. You can't switch off autoplay during scenes?? You can't turn off the beep from dialog advance? You can't read an entire random npcs without waiting for it all to appear? And there is no button to make it fully appear without closing??

Is this correct or am I missing something?

I'm the only one? Driving me insane. Could this be a Steam Deck issue?
 

AppleKid

Member
Feb 21, 2018
2,567
Damn, April is stacked for me between this, Another Crab's Treasure, Harold Halibut, and Minishoot' Adventures. I've been a bit lukewarm on what I've seen of Eiyuden and never got into Suikoden III but with all the positive impressions and my love for I & II will definitely be giving it a shot.

Also excellent OT and title. RIP Yoshitaka Murayama.
 

EssBeeVee

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,768
i almost died the first boss because i decided to use a mass heal thinking he would attack multiple people but ended up only one so it was a GG. but i did end up beating it.
 

OmegaDL50

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,717
Philadelphia, PA
I feel like something is wrong with his game mine has never looked that bad on PS5.

Mine doesn't look like on the PS5 either.

I own the Steam version because I intended to play it via my Steam Deck, but I'm currently playing it on my PS5. Ultimately I don't think the problem is as severe as it sounds but some are more sensitive to visual issues than others. At least we don't have improper pixel scrolling resulting in screen tearing effects like the FF Pixel Remasters for example.
 

Mewzard

Member
Feb 4, 2018
3,468
So, my Switch version downloaded, is it worth playing now, or should I wait for the next patch? I believe it was Version 1.03.
 

Mortemis

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,424
Didn't know backer codes came out already, nice. Just downloaded it to my PS5.

I'll be traveling for the next week so I can't play it, but it sounds like I should wait because of some bug anyways. Can't wait to dive in next weekend.
 

ghibli99

Member
Oct 27, 2017
17,892
No, it's very noticeable cause the whole screen is shimmering and if you don't see it, cool, that is great for you, but this game is obviously running in somewhat 1080p on PS5 including menus when it just shouldn't and be native 4K like on PC, if you see it or not, it just shouldn't be like this.

I thought we are still in an Enthusiast forum here?
I don't think my reaction is over the top when this game should be technically absolute flawless on a f'n PS5 but instead is 1080p with messed up floor textures.

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I'm sorry that I expected the absolute minimum here. 🤷‍♀️
It's just a shame, in this state it feels technically super underwhelming and disappointing to me, like playing an old Xbox One game without enhancements.

If it would have dynamic res, or just gameplay being lower res and menus still 4K, or any other smarter solution, that would be completely different, but having the whole output being 1080p including menus just feels like playing an old last gen game on low resolution, it's really unpleasant.
I looked at this in-game on PS5 myself, and I think a lot of it has to do with the shallow LoD. If the camera is pulled back a decent way, texture/shadow detail is lower, even around where your character is standing. When it zooms in to the "default" distance, things look better. But I haven't seen anything like what's on the right side of your sample image. Even stuff in the far background with DoF layered on top isn't that blurry, so I'm not sure what's going on.
 

Aeana

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,953
Looks like they're pushing updates on SteamDB. Hopefully it'll trickle down to us by tomorrow morning.
 

Karew

Member
Jul 5, 2022
262
I've never played a Suikoden game but I am super tempted to buy this. How are early impressions so far?
 

hitmon

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,424
Someone kindly shared their 100% Rising save for importing
steamcommunity.com

Sharing my 100% Completion Rising Save Game Files ready to be loaded on Hundred Heroes [Rewards] :: Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes General Discussions

Hello, as the title suggests, I'm sharing my game save files for Eiyuden Chronicle: Rising. The main reason is because I know that many don't want to play a 2D isometric game but do want to have all the extra rewards for Hundred Heroes loading Rising save files, so I thought this "perfect game...

Save location: %USERPROFILE%\APPDATA\LocalLow\505 Games S_p_A\Eiyuden Chronicle Rising\[YOUR_STEAM_ID_NUMBER]

If you already have a Hundred Heroes save from the playtest or the early full release, you can grab your Steam ID from
%USERPROFILE%\APPDATA\LocalLow\505 Games S_p_A\EiyudenChronicle
It's the folder name entirely made of numbers

You can only import at the start of a new game and here's what you get
FA075CD1EEE780A8F732DB6D66269C24CE4F8DDF
Has anyone got this to work on the Steam version? I was able to load the saves in Rising, but I did not get this prompt in Eiyuden Chronicles.
 

Anoxida

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,549
I've never played a Suikoden game but I am super tempted to buy this. How are early impressions so far?
Very positive impressions all around. That being said, fans wanted a specific type of game and that's what Eiyuuden goes for so it was always going to be positive. It's an old school type jrpg with some unique traits typical of a Murayama game.
 

ghibli99

Member
Oct 27, 2017
17,892
Very positive impressions all around. That being said, fans wanted a specific type of game and that's what Eiyuuden goes for so it was always going to be positive. It's an old school type jrpg with some unique traits typical of a Murayama game.
Agreed. In a lot of ways, it's reminding me of Bloodstained, which also stuck to a very specific vision and delivered. Like that game, there are core things in Eiyuden that will be divisive and not universally liked, but most of it will delight fans.
 

Karew

Member
Jul 5, 2022
262
Very positive impressions all around. That being said, fans wanted a specific type of game and that's what Eiyuuden goes for so it was always going to be positive. It's an old school type jrpg with some unique traits typical of a Murayama game.
Thanks. I understand it's specifically going for Suikoden vibes but i'm pretty open to niche/quirky/older-style games.


Agreed. In a lot of ways, it's reminding me of Bloodstained, which also stuck to a very specific vision and delivered. Like that game, there are core things in Eiyuden that will be divisive and not universally liked, but most of it will delight fans.
Perfect example. I've never played an Igavania game before and i really enjoyed Bloodstained.
 
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Apr 19, 2018
6,847
Watching some streams of the early game. Please tell me there's a way to disable or at least lower the volume of that 'bleep' button confirmation sound every time a line of dialogue is finished being spoken. That would drive me crazy in an instant. =/
 

TheJollyCorner

AVALANCHE
The Fallen
Nov 7, 2017
9,485
Took a look at reddit and discord to see what the prerelease/prepatch recruitment bug is from people who are further in the game or who have beaten it already.

Each nested spoiler tag will be more specific. The first layer is broad and generally safe to read about potential missables.
There are no intended missable recruits except for 1 near the end of the game. That one is only missable due to requiring all other recruitables.

The unintended missable recruit is due to an issue where there's a possible sequence break or just an unaccounted for scenario where you visit a city out of order without having recruited another character tied to the recruit in question.

The bugged character is Lam.

Around 15-20 hours into the game, you will be in a new region. DO NOT visit Daphan until you have recruited a character named Riufan, who is located in Euchrisse. Riufan's recruitment process is fairly straightforward. Keep Riufan in your active party until you've finished Lam's recruitment in Daphan to the northeast. Riufan needs to be in your active party or Lam's dialogue chain gets stuck.

My guess with the patch progression warnings is that they won't know if they can retroactively fix saves made past the point where people could recruit the "bugged" character. Should be fine if you recruit the character as intended.

Ughhhhhh… I figured that was the bugged character. 😩
I hope they can patch it so I can still get them on my current save…
 

Paertan

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,402
Looking forward so much to this game. Backed it for a lot as soon as it was announced. Can´t believe it is finally here. I have received tracking information and should have it soon.
 

Mudo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,115
Tennessee
The game is great so far on PS5.

I was/am devastated and shocked by Murayama's passing, and playing his last game has me all up in my feelings.

Suikoden is one of my favorite game series ever, and was such a huge part of my early days playing RPGs. This is truly a bittersweet game.

You are a legend to me Murayama. Rest in peace and thank you for all you contributed to my favorite hobby.
 

Palette Swap

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,246
I can't believe it's finally here, it's so bittersweet with Murayama's passing. I've been on the Suikoden boat since pretty much day one, so this is a big deal to me.

I'm not gonna lie, I can't even remember why or how with my basic ass $40 digital backer tier, I got two copies of it, but hey, that means I can play it on switch too.
 

Sangral

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Feb 17, 2022
6,102
Are the Backer DLCs already locked to the copy we chose on the Yetee page or will we have to choose a platform for the DLCs later again? Does anyone know? 🤔🤔🤔

Cause if we can choose again then I would love to get rid of this awful PS5 port and just get a Steam Key once the game is officially out.
The technical state of the PS5 version completely crushed my anticipation and my desire to play the game right now. 😞

Which is really sad cause I was so excited for it, I have it here, the full game, but I just don't want to play it like this, seeing this game looking like a 10 year old Xbox One S game running in 1080p which upscales really poorly on a 4K TV, it just looks so bad. What a waste of a PlayStation 5 port. 😒
 

CaptainPrizun

Member
Feb 16, 2022
46
Got my backer code and played a few hours last night - really liking it so far but my biggest gripe is everything should be a bit faster - the overworld exploration feels good (and I *think* I got an accessory that improves movement speed) but battles feel a little sluggish atm - especially boss battles. Beyond that great soundtrack and mostly great VAs, really looking forward to getting a decent no-life weekend run in.
 

thillygooth

AVALANCHE
Member
Jan 5, 2023
390
Do we have any idea how long it takes to beat the game? I'm definitely getting it, and I wanna get the Deluxe version to start playing on the 21st... but not if the game is super short. The pricetag makes me think we're not getting more than like... 30 hrs.
 

Vommy

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,936
Do we have any idea how long it takes to beat the game? I'm definitely getting it, and I wanna get the Deluxe version to start playing on the 21st... but not if the game is super short. The pricetag makes me think we're not getting more than like... 30 hrs.
The Q&A said something towards 50 hours I think
 

Sangral

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Feb 17, 2022
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I haven't tried myself yet -- and you've clearly given good evidence that something is messed up here. But with the conflicting reports from others, are you sure you're running the PS5 version? I saw my code gave me access to download both the ps4 and ps5 version.

Of course I'm playing the PS5 version, that's the first thing I checked when I saw how super low res the game runs in. :D
I have the physical copy installed tho, no digital download but I doubt it makes a difference.
Just started it up again to see if a restart fixes the bad floor textures, nope it doesn't, also still 1080p upscaled to 4K, it just looks so awful.

I would like to check out later how the game looks without the current patch installed and only installed from the disc, maybe that gives some revelation here.

My ground textures do not look like that on my ps5

Unless it's just that specific town. I am not near there but will check next i am. But my ground texture resolution in everywhere i am at doesn't look that bad at all.

It's the very first town right after hitting new game, would appreciate if you can make a screenshot from your version at that spot.

Does anyone here have a PS4 copy only on a PS4 Pro? I would love to see a 4K screenshot here too and want to see how that looks. Imagine the PS4 Pro version actually running in 4K while the PS5 version only is messed up, lol.
Would also like to see an Xbox Series X 4K screenshot from that spot.
 
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Gyoru

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Oct 27, 2017
1,601
Cycling through 3 random backer HQ name options at a time instead of letting you type a custom HQ name is certainly a choice
 

Sangral

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Feb 17, 2022
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Interesting.

The PS5 Version from the disc, 1.000 does not have the floor texture issues, these came with the 1.003 update. But it does have the blurry rocks in the battle that the PC Beta version also had on 1.000 but in 1.003 that is fixed.
Regardless, both 1.000 and 1.003 still run in 1080p upscaled on PS5.

This port is such a f'n mess.

1.000 vs 1.003 PS5:


 
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asd202

Enlightened
Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,605
Interesting.

The PS5 Version from the disc, 1.000 does not have the floor texture issues, these came with the 1.003 update. But it does have the blurry rocks in the battle that the PC Beta version also had on 1.000 but in 1.003 that is fixed.
Regardless, both 1.000 and 1.003 still run in 1080p upscaled on PS5.

This port is such a f'n mess.

1.000 vs 1.003 PS5:


There are still patches coming before release hopefully it will get better.
 

Command & Conker

"This guy are sick"
Member
Oct 1, 2019
192
I Kickstarter'd this game, and my hype for it has only gone up since. So excited it is finally releasing!

Great OT, Jawmuncher!
 

Kain

Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
7,620
I'm actually more interested in this than in Rebirth.
 
Mar 11, 2020
5,125
Of course I'm playing the PS5 version, that's the first thing I checked when I saw how super low res the game runs in. :D
I have the physical copy installed tho, no digital download but I doubt it makes a difference.
Just started it up again to see if a restart fixes the bad floor textures, nope it doesn't, also still 1080p upscaled to 4K, it just looks so awful.

I would like to check out later how the game looks without the current patch installed and only installed from the disc, maybe that gives some revelation here.



It's the very first town right after hitting new game, would appreciate if you can make a screenshot from your version at that spot.

Does anyone here have a PS4 copy only on a PS4 Pro? I would love to see a 4K screenshot here too and want to see how that looks. Imagine the PS4 Pro version actually running in 4K while the PS5 version only is messed up, lol.
Would also like to see an Xbox Series X 4K screenshot from that spot.
I booted up a new game and it does look like that right at that spot for me, i never noticed. But that specific ground texture is blurry looking right at that spot. I have not see that elsewhere but I'll look out for it.


Aside from that though. Holy crap the card game is addicting.
 

Mivey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,843
Sounds a bit like I should wait for patches to drop. Still in the prologue on Steam Deck, and will wait.
 
Mar 11, 2020
5,125
Interesting.

The PS5 Version from the disc, 1.000 does not have the floor texture issues, these came with the 1.003 update. But it does have the blurry rocks in the battle that the PC Beta version also had on 1.000 but in 1.003 that is fixed.
Regardless, both 1.000 and 1.003 still run in 1080p upscaled on PS5.

This port is such a f'n mess.

1.000 vs 1.003 PS5:


Oh that's why i didn't notice it
 
Oct 26, 2017
7,367
I booted it up to check in the first major town and yes, a lot of background textures are very blurry, like Suikoden 3 level. There's also aggressive texture filtering in a horizontal line just behind Nowa. This is on PS5, digital version. But then again I didn't notice last night, so... thanks?

Let's see what it looks like when the game is actually pre-released. This is pre-pre-release.
 

doof_warrior

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,435
NJ
i got my backer copy last week, but i still am playing ff7 rebirth and want to finish that before i move on (i hate juggling games)
hopefully that'll leave a little room for them to patch issues before i start lol

i gotta say, the only thing i am "worried" about (and has been since i backed it) is the music. i've been purposely not watching gameplay and demos etc so i dont really have a feel for it. can anyone who has been playing say whether it even remotely comes close to miki higashino's music in suikoden 1/2? i realize thats an insane bar to hit, but that music is such a HUGE part of the magic of those 2 games
 

Paertan

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,402
Sounds a bit like I should wait for patches to drop. Still in the prologue on Steam Deck, and will wait.
The number of developers I trust enough to play games from before a few patches have landed I could count on one hand and have a few fingers left to go. I will wait at least a week. I have waited this long.