Nah, considerating the amateur quality of their store, i don't think they will have the position to put standards.
They want exclusives because ''cOmPetiTion is gUd'', that's all.
Epic declines to sell SkateBIRD on the EGS because the developers wont ditch Steam [update: see threadmark for dev comment]
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Nah, considerating the amateur quality of their store, i don't think they will have the position to put standards.
They want exclusives because ''cOmPetiTion is gUd'', that's all.
I would say I am shocked but it's pretty clear, at least imo, that Tim Sweeneys strategy all along has been to make sure games aren't getting on Steam (at least for their initial launch date.)
This is why EGS will fail long term imo, not that it matters, Tim will remain rich regardless, even if it does fail, there really is no risk for him, just a bored billionaire trying to gain more power it seems.
This is why EGS will fail long term imo, not that it matters, Tim will remain rich regardless, even if it does fail, there really is no risk for him, just a bored billionaire trying to gain more power it seems.
Their obsession in labeling Steam as the IRS of PC gaming that does nothing with the money it gets from the devs seems pretty weird as a business decision imo, but I never managed one 🤔
Nice
ITT : people once again discover the foreign concept that is an exclusivity deal, and moderation is okay with extreme toxicity as long as it is aimed towards EGS or Tim Sweeney
ITT: People taking the very briefest of glances at EGS exclusivity threads and assuming actual specifics of details while painting them with a mop.
I would use other words myself, but yeah, I do think that Tim Sweeney just reaps what he sows.
His company are being very aggresive with taking options away from end customers.
They do so with a client that for end users brings nothing new to the table.
His response, and the response from his colleague Sergei Galyonkin is basically just #dealwithit. Just plaing arrogance.
Such actions alongside with such replies is always only going to grow a negative taint around the subject.
It's so very predictable, and yes, normal.
Yeah, uh, guys, that's getting really hostile and weird
You can make your point without going for the jugular, I'm sure
EGS can be a crap tier platform, but some people post as if Epic robbed their household. "It's on sight if I catch an Epic thread. Green light in my city." Lol
Well I guess as someone who multiple F500 advises businesses, I can tell you "ok." Tim wants to make the argument that Steam money could be better use than just sitting. That's not surprising. Most VCs and funders are focused on capital being used and invested in other areas and not just stockpiling infinitely.
Well I guess as someone who multiple F500 advises businesses, I can tell you "ok." Tim wants to make the argument that Steam money could be better use than just sitting. That's not surprising. Most VCs and funders are focused on capital being used and invested in other areas and not just stockpiling infinitely.
I'm getting uncomfortable flashbacks to the early days of console gaming that had "You can only publish on this console" clauses.
Fun fact: That died off as a practice because when SEGA tried pulling it on EA, EA went and reverse engineered the Genesis lock out chip, threatening to start their own publishing arm that cut SEGA out of the equation entirely. ...Go figure.
Fun fact: That died off as a practice because when SEGA tried pulling it on EA, EA went and reverse engineered the Genesis lock out chip, threatening to start their own publishing arm that cut SEGA out of the equation entirely. ...Go figure.
You can just say you never actually read the threads and just want to tell people off.
No, I think people who are consistantly shocked about Epic games business practices would get an instant heart attack if they read up on our shitty system.
But of course they won't, most will only focus on the single actor here and frame it as an insolated/disloyal competition with Steam.
I was always partial to Gran Flamingo. Some people like Burnout Parakeet, of course.
I don't think "shocked" really is the right word there, but I guess it does add some effect to your post when you use it.
What is your recommendation here though? Don't react at all? Just accept things being shitty? Don't express what you feel about it, on a forum for discussions, because the system overall is so shitty that we're all doomed anyway?
It seems like Epic is trying to avoid another Shenmue 3 situation. If they (Skatebird devs) promised Steam keys in their KS, then they (Epic) definitely don't want to pay for another game's refunds. I've never heard of Skatebird until now, so they're definitely going to get a lot of free publicity out of this. They'll save some money on that marketing budget.
Oh no no. Epic mostly definitely are ok with repeating the Shenmue 3 debacle over and over again. It's the devs here who in this case said no. Epic doesn't give two cents about what promises are made to backers, as long as they get another exclusive to their store.
It's so manual that it's the reason that some of their own games are not sold on their Store, but on Steam.
I am really sad Burnout Parakeet is not a thing. Why isn't it a thing. The name is perfect.
Literally nobody is outraged a game is being sold on EGS, but I guess your strawman wouldn't work without leaving some words out, right?
Even the developer on their tweets seems pretty ok with it. Yeah, Epic should have taken the bird game, but stuff like this happens when the store is curated. It used to be like this with Steam. Who knows of how long it will be like that on Epic.
Hitler was a sick fuck. People who go on mass shootings are sick fucks. Maybe turn down the hyperbole a little? Tim Sweeney is an asshole maybe, but that's it.
It seems unclear if the game was rejected for a grant, or to be listed at all. If it's just that they rejected it for exclusive benefits because the devs already promised Steam keys, that seems perfectly reasonable.
I can't wait for their shitty excuse for a storefront to still not have taken off by the time Fortnite fades away.
Hmm, I guess I misunderstood that twitter post, it seemed like Epic was turning them down because they promised Steam keys on their KS. Either way I would have never heard of this game if Epic wasn't involved somehow lol.
Hey, maybe get across your dislike for Epic without using gendered slurs next time. Just a thought.
Hi! regarding the "crappy" comment that's getting you so much blowback- it's early, not crappy. Anyone with experience playing games in a pre-alpha state can tell the quality. Megan Fox is a developer with a fairly decent track record, and while her previous games may not have been top-tier indie they were at least solid. Skatebird had a demo for its Kickstarter that people really liked despite its obviously super-early, buggy nature. Going off the developer's track record it's fairly clear this is going to be a fun, cute, bird-based skateboarding title that will get plenty of polish and content before release and all the necessary support after.
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i mean the solution that benefits literally everyone is that the backers get what they were promised and the dev gets to sell on another store in addition to the other one
there are no downsides
epic can't do this because their technology is terrible
maybe they should improve it
My understanding is that the grants were independent of EGS. Could be wrong though.
Did you just bring up Hitler and then tell someone else to turn down the hyperbole?
I am not outraged, I am suprised and now amused and by their incompetentance.
I can see why Steam is not fighting Epic they can just sit back and grab some popcorn and watch Tim destroy EGS for them
Eh, they're not wrong in calling Hitler and other murderers sick fucks. I can't stand Sweeney or Epic's methods, but using that sort of description for them does no one any favors.
I get that this is a thing, but I legitimately see that word more on Era than I do on the rest of the internet combined. Porn included.