Yeah, for people to claim to hate the books so much, they sure seem get worked up over absolutely nothing.
Ernest Cline DMCA's Laura Hudson's Ready Player Two review thread on Twitter
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Yeah, for people to claim to hate the books so much, they sure seem get worked up over absolutely nothing.
Literally every RPO thread, it's the same chumps that never engage with this.
I saw a clip of Ready Player Two. That book is so terribly written it makes me realize my concerns about "not being good enough" were nuts. Someone roasting it...makes perfect sense, lol.
I always love these takes of ''criticizing someone/a particular work = actually you just jealous''.
Again. Not a good comparison. All of those posters should be hit with a DMCA. If the law doesn't work for everyone, it works for no one.
i don't really care that much other than it depresses me that people would read this sort of nerdy wish fulfillment fantasy over... real literature?
No.
What?
No.
Reviews often use footage from the things they're reviewing. Even the week it comes out.
They are under no obligation to speak kindly of the work in question. Negative, jokey criticism is still criticism.
Unless you're making the argument that reading that twitter thread is the equivalent of reading the book, then it is not piracy and does not warrant a DMCA.
Now, you can dislike her criticism, and criticize it itself, but it is still protected under fair use.
No, normal movie review they can't get the clip legally, so that's why they don't put it in there. They within their right to put it in there like this review
They just can't find the good rip so they don't, but if they can, they will, like this review right here
She literally going scene by scene. And Disney doesn't give a fuck, because it's fair use, they are criticizing shit, not making an illegal copy.
This sentence makes no sense. People hate the book so they aren't supposed to be worked up? Is this sarcasm?
Its the last fanboy line of defense (along with "they live rent free in your head") when the work is objectively terrible
I haven't read RP2, but from the excerpts in this thread I don't see anyone alleging about transphobia or misogyny, maybe I'm missing it. I'm referring to the pop culture references that seem to be what most people are complaining about in this thread.
Yeah, pretty much.
I guess Cline has no nostalgia for anything related to Streisand?
I mean, it couldn't be that we just like casually dunking on RPO (and its defenders). Nah, we're just so consumed with righteous fury and jealousy at its success. It lives rent-free in our heads.
Kinda fitting that the biggest proponents of a novel series about gaming spew out canned lines like NPCs.
Kinda fitting that the biggest proponents of a novel series about gaming spew out canned lines like NPCs.
Yeah, like this professional review
There's another RP2 thread with a different account tweeting passages as well, some of which are of that nature. The first book had it too.
The only time I ever think about RPO or Cline are when someone creates a thread about them. It's still weird how many people are willing to go to bat for such a poorly written book, full of misogyny and transphobia. Also weird seeing so many corporate apologists defending blatant misuse of DMCA, for obvious fair use criticism.
Even RP1 having misogyny moments in it, Or did you miss all the casual sexist bullshit the main character spout when he talks about women?
There was a passage I saw where the protagonist pats himself on the back for not being transphobic seemingly unprompted
Her quoting whole passages is fair use. I find it ironic so many on here would jump on it being a no go when they wholesale quote entire articles as their OP and think nothing is wrong with that. But I guess since she made fun of nerd man her punishment is deserved?
Or like this oneYeah, like this professional review
So friendly...
People were posting the transphobic and misogynist shit in RP2 in the other thread, and RP1 had tones of it as well. Again, I ask, is that us getting worked up over "absolutely nothing?"
I don't think I'll ever understand this. Do they expect a pat on the head for being contrarian?
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Then you need to watch move movie reviews. Under fair use, the law allows you to use excerpts from the content you are criticizing. For movies, this includes clips that you make yourself.
Now, you shouldn't break the law to get a copy, but so long as you acquired something legally, you're good to go.
This is why movie reviewers only use studio provided clips for theatrical reviews. Typically, they are the only content that is made available in the press kits before release (and screeners are often watermarked with your name, so they don't make for good screenshot/clip use).
But if you're reviewing content on a streaming service, disc, broadcast, etc.? Feel free to clip and use bits to illustrate your points. That's what fair use is meant to enable.
DMCA abuse is not "absolutely nothing."
It's the attention.
Really weird seeing this anti-fair use stance (from people who are clearly not lawyers) on a gaming forum. What is Twitch? What is most gaming-focused media if not a clear argument for the legitimacy of fair use?
I eagerly await Lindsey's video on this debacle.
Edit: Also, I am really curious why people are jumping to the defense of this by claiming its not fair use or that being mean isn't review and never batted an eye and similar terribly written work like Twilight and 50 Shades got lambasted.
I wonder what the difference is?!
Sounds like someone that bought into Funko Pops and now has buyers remorse.
I'm a grumpy old man and anything that even slightly embraces nerd culture instead of treating it like it should be as a secret shame, makes me want to die.
That movie was the fucking worst.
Reading those passages though, it's really inspiring me to finally write a book, because apparently fucking anyone can do it.
That movie was the fucking worst.
Reading those passages though, it's really inspiring me to finally write a book, because apparently fucking anyone can do it.
Doesn't matter, it's critique, protected by fair use. I could bring up any GOT book right now and do this to it via live twitter feed, and although fans would probably hate my opinions, it would still be protected.
lol, what the fuck? Even putting aside fair use.. "deserve"? I see people sharing passages on Twitter all the time, and no, that doesn't warrant DMCA shenanigans. It doesn't take away from the experience of actually reading the book, it makes the conversation around a given book or quote or whatever much better, and it's free advertising. Above all else, no, whatever rights or privileges creators have, there is nothing at all malicious about "posting whole passages," and thinking otherwise is some serious Brain on Capitalism shit.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious Cline is just a thin-skinned dumbass. No need to frame this any other way.
Well I don't think there is anything wrong with Nerd culture but Ernest Cline has certainly given Nerd culture a bad name.
I don't hate pop culture and I am a movie nerd myself but honestly the writing and the main character of RPO Wade Watts is just insufferable.
He is a horrible person and a bit of a creep.
Remember when questioned the absolutely loud bashers of Twilight were like "Well, it's bad literature not suitable for young girls!" As if they knew what girls needed to read.
That's definitely it.
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For those saying this isn't Fair Use, what about 'Let's Play's? Or Giant Bomb Endurance runs, or just Quick Looks? I mean, what about all of Twitch?
She didnt post full pages, she underlined excerpts and posted pictures. If you go through her whole thread, you probably wouldnt get more than 10 pages from the book. Why does typing it make it ok instead of just posting the picture? Each tweet she posted has criticism towards the passage that is inserted, they are linked. Would it be ok if she read it out loud and posted that recording? What if it was a video over her shoulder so you can see the page she is reading, reading the book excerpts out loud? If she had a digital book and copy and pasted, would that be ok?
The pictures are actually pretty relevant to her criticism, since it puts the criticism in context. It also prevents anyine from trying to claim she mistyped, or didn't provide the whole passage when criticisng the work.
She didnt post full pages, she underlined excerpts and posted pictures. If you go through her whole thread, you probably wouldnt get more than 10 pages from the book. Why does typing it make it ok instead of just posting the picture? Each tweet she posted has criticism towards the passage that is inserted, they are linked. Would it be ok if she read it out loud and posted that recording? What if it was a video over her shoulder so you can see the page she is reading, reading the book excerpts out loud? If she had a digital book and copy and pasted, would that be ok?
The pictures are actually pretty relevant to her criticism, since it puts the criticism in context. It also prevents anyine from trying to claim she mistyped, or didn't provide the whole passage when criticisng the work.
There's nothing really copyrightable about something like a page layout unless it is remarkably unique, so there is functionally no difference between quoting a passage here vs. posting an image of the passage within the book.
I never read his first book, I just knew it was like all about nostalgia. But the prose. The prose hurts me.
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I can forgive it if they liked the book back in 2011, before the true hideousness that is nerd culture reared its ugly head for all to see. But for anyone defending it now in 2020, yeah...no.
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I usually don't judge people by their consumption of media, but if I knew anyone who unironically liked this shit, holy fuck
Ernest Cline is a terrible artist and should be inspiration for people to do their own shit because even this butcher of language and the concept of art made it.
Ernest Cline is a terrible artist and should be inspiration for people to do their own shit because even this butcher of language and the concept of art made it.
Nerd culture is still a big "boys club".
Everyone finds their own group of like minded friends of course, but in this day in age of social media youtube and streaming, it's pretty common for nerds to go after women for being into nerd shit.
Ernest Cline can get fucked, which is an insulting expression derived from a reference to sexual intercourse.
Yeah, and I've seen Twitter threads with clips and images by critics for Mulan and any other films that came out on VOD relatively soon to cinema release. Like here:
And Mulan had plenty of reviews going in depth in where it failed. Same critic did a very popular video review:
I really want to thank everybody who posted excerpts. After my latest rejection, I was beginning to doubt my abilities, but if this dreck can be published, anything can.