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[Eurogamer] Wizards of the Coast "now talking to lots of partners" about next Baldur's Gate
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I'm sure WotC firing the people responsible for getting Larian onboard for BG3 in the first place had nothing to do with it at all, no sir
i selfishly dont want it to be obsidian in the hopes they can get a fallout game going after avowed and outer worlds 2
Leave it alone and make a different RPG. There's so many different settings for D&D. Use Spelljammer.
The only teams that could do it are Owlcat and maybe Obsidian and even then they will probably not be able to match what Larian did, at all.
Crazy because I'm imagining way back when people were saying the same about BG1/2 lol.
Honestly? I was only there with BG3 because Larian made it, not because of the IP. The Baldur's Gate franchise itself means painfully little to me.
So we'll see what happens.
So we'll see what happens.
I'm far, far more interested in what Larian does next.
Paizo should try to court them for a Pathfinder game. "Hey, do you have beef with how WotC/Hasbro treated you on your D&D project? Let me tell you a story..."
Paizo should try to court them for a Pathfinder game. "Hey, do you have beef with how WotC/Hasbro treated you on your D&D project? Let me tell you a story..."
I haven't followed the studio that closely, but I recall Larian speaking fondly of their partnership with WotC at one point in an interview and the decision to not do a sequel to Baldur's Gate or any DLC for the game was their own. Never heard of a feud between Larian and WotC.
That's because Larian's a class act. But everyone saw this coming when the news broke about the firing.
It was so easy. Give Larian money to make "Dungeons and Dragons the game". Same engine, allow a dungeon master or group to create the dungeons using tools to piece together your own stories. Drop on enemies, loot, traps, ECT using modular assets created by Larian. Similar to Mario Maker. Publish your "campaign" online, allow groups of friends or strangers to play countless dungeons and dragons campaigns. Huge profit. But, you fucked it up. Oh well
It's not that there was a feud, it's that Hasbro fired all the WotC people who were involved in the making of BG3.
It surely made it much easier to decide wether to do another DnD license , or to do an own thing,
Like I said, I'm sure WotC firing the people who were originally responsible for bringing Larian in had nothing to do with it, definitely not.
I swear some people will defend corporate fuckups no matter what. This is the WotC. Do people need a reminder of their litany of greedy, awful decisions just in recent years?
Folks are trying to will this into existence and there's no real good reason to HOPE Larian was treated poorly. They've been told explicitly no this isn't actually the case but they hold on to that hope anyway.
This is a gross misframing of things--no one was saying Larian was treated poorly.
like you said, the idea is right there and they've done it twice, and now they can capitalize on fresh hype by bastardizing the BG3 engine into a NWN3.
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Well, we have what Larian has actually said (which not only includes positive comments about working with WotC but also repeatedly stating that they want to do their own thing next) and then we have the narrative you've created in your head.
But yes, it's "defending corporate fuckups" if we decide to point out that what you're saying is almost completely baseless.
If you say so, I guess.
I for one don't think it's a stretch that the only major dev studio to condemn the industry-wide layoffs no longer wants to work with a shitty company that just laid off 1000 workers in the past year, a good number of which were people they had worked with.
It's one thing to say they want to do their own thing next, it's another thing to definitively say they won't do anymore D&D stuff.
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Yep.
The studios capable of making something with the same technical quality are just not that good anymore at CRPGs, and the studios capable of making great CRPGs don't have the resources Larian had.
Owlcat for example could make a great BG4, but it would look way worse almost assuredly.
Not no one, didn't say you yourself did. Plenty in previous threads.
I think Owlcat could produce something comparable if given the necessary time and budget. They even exceed Larian in certain regards, such as choice, consequence and reactivity.
They were hit by layoffs under Paradox and then went independent again.
We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had a sexy main cast. We had countless GOTY awards. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, gave us the license and made as much money as you ever needed. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now
Since I finished bg2 more than 20 years ago. I wanted a bg3. I got it and it was fantastic.
I don't need a bg4. (But I hope dragon age 4 will come out and bring me the same closure)
I don't need a bg4. (But I hope dragon age 4 will come out and bring me the same closure)
Maybe make it for Switch or successor, change the level of expectations.
Not really…Larian just wants to work on something else.
Like I said, it's one thing to want to work on something else next, it's another to say they won't ever work with the IP anymore.
they dont have the money, or reputation t raise it thart larain had.