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European elections - 6-9 June 2024

Eric_S

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Nov 29, 2017
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So I though I'd create a friendly reminder to EU-era to go out and vote. So that the parliament can continue to function and not get blocked by Russian funded far right.
www.bbc.com

Belgium probes Russian interference in EU elections

Two months before Europeans vote in 27 countries, Moscow is accused of trying to influence the vote.
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And please, take a look at what the coalitions look like and what EU party your national party is affiliated with:

elections.europa.eu

European elections 2024: all you need to know

Elections for the European Parliament take place 6-9 June 2024. Find out what they are, how to vote and why. Pledge to vote and check out the results.
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There you will find the relevant links to go to the respective parties and take a look at their manifestos for the 2024 election cycle, like:

EPP - conservatives

ALDE - liberals (pdf)

Greens

Social Democrats (pdf)

Left
 
Ephonk

Ephonk

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,003
Belgium
Will probably be voting for social democrats, although the liberals in Belgium have politicians who are also liberal-left leaning and progressive on almost all the social issues.

If anyone on US-Era is wondering why not "LEFT": they are a troublesome block, with members who are actual communists including pro-russia and pro-china stances - defending troublesome historic figures like Stalin etc. Although the way the EU works it's possible they have some good candidates depending on the country. Some parties in the LEFT block are as troublesome as some on the extreme right.
 
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Eric_S

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Nov 29, 2017
900
Ephonk said:
Will probably be voting for social democrats, although the liberals in Belgium have politicians who are also liberal-left leaning and progressive on almost all the social issues.

If anyone on US-Era is wondering why not "LEFT": they are a troublesome block, with members who are actual communists including pro-russia and pro-china stances - defending troublesome historic figures like Stalin etc. Although the way the EU works it's possible they have some good candidates depending on the country. Some parties in the LEFT block are as troublesome as some on the extreme right.
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Their stance on Russia's war in Ukraine is indeed problematic. Read this and remember that it's Russia that's waging a one-sided imperialistic war of expansion in Ukraine, and note what's first on their agenda:

"The immediate steps to stop the war must be a return to the negotiation table, a ceasefire, and a withdrawal of all Russian troops from Ukraine. We are in favour of peace negotiations."
 
Palette Swap

Palette Swap

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,435
Voting Social Democrats. The French candidate isn't as left as I'd like to be honest, but he's by far the left's best shot at finishing ahead of that piece of shit liberal.

It's still gonna be awful when the far right finishes first by far.
 
hydrophilic attack

hydrophilic attack

Corrupted by Vengeance
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Oct 25, 2017
21,674
Sweden
i will vote for the swedish left party. some of their people have been a bit off about russia, but their first candidate in this election is a stand-up guy and an outspoken critic of both russia and israel. i trust him completely
 
EagleClaw

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
11,184
I like that the far-right leaders Marine Le Pen and Matteo Salvini destroyed the German far-right nazi top candidate Krah.
The German AfD might even be kicked out of the far-right Identity and Democracy (ID) political group.

Euronews
 
EagleClaw

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
11,184
Debate between lead candidates for the Commission presidency


View: https://www.youtube.com/live/FvRBST7PiRw?si=OQQCl763Ml7W-MCL

The far-right and nationalist groups ID and ECR have no candidates for the Commission presidency and are therefore missing.

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Hercule

Hercule

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Jun 20, 2018
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I have lost faith. The far right parties are going to dominate this upcoming elections.
 
EagleClaw

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
11,184
Hercule said:
I have lost faith. The far right parties are going to dominate this upcoming elections.
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They surely will gain ground, but i don't believe they will dominate.
I believe the "middle" of Greens, Socialists, Democrats, and maybe even Renew, are still strong enough to keep them down.

This is the latest projection

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Note: German AfD got expeled from ID, therefore about 10 seats could go from ID to Unaffilated parties.

361 votes are needed for a majority, the far-right and nationalists can't reach this on their own per this projection.
 
Efreeti

Efreeti

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Jul 5, 2019
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I'll be voting "left" (hah) in Belgium, where it's also Belgian government elections at the same time. I don't even like the vaguely left party, but they are the only ones actually in opposition against the extreme-right wave right now. All the parties have gotten more and more right-wing, to the point where most now have a discourse about say migrants or sick people that is the same as the extreme right party had 20 years ago. The supposedly "extreme" left party is now vaguely social-democratic, which is as good as it gets. And even if I don't like them at least they bring out public dossiers on corruption, pollution, etc.

Polls are bad, looking to be a big victory for the extreme right. There were a number of scandals with right & extreme right party members discovered to be paid to spy for Russia or China, but most people don't seem to care.
 
Spesi

Spesi

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Apr 26, 2022
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Finland
Not saying Euronews isn't a legit source. But since it has been linked couple of times in the thread, I think it's valid to point out that nowadays it's owned by a company linked directly to Victor Orban & his government...
 
EagleClaw

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
11,184
Spesi said:
Not saying Euronews isn't a legit source. But since it has been linked couple of times in the thread, I think it's valid to point out that nowadays it's owned by a company linked directly to Victor Orban & his government...
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This is surely a thing that can be pointed out.

I can't see huge differences to other european election polls, but in my opinion the visiual design of this euronews poll is unbeaten.
 
discogs

discogs

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Oct 28, 2017
378
London
UK-Polish dual citizen, will be voting on holiday whilst in Berlin. No knowledge of Polish so will be using Google Translate lol. Voting for the left candidate my socialist friend has recommended.
 
titanblade

titanblade

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May 24, 2024
22
I just voted today in advance in Lisbon. There aren't many excuses in Portugal not to vote. You can register to vote in advance like I did, and this year you can vote at any voting place of your choosing on election day.
 
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Dascu

Dascu

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Oct 28, 2017
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Efreeti said:
I'll be voting "left" (hah) in Belgium, where it's also Belgian government elections at the same time. I don't even like the vaguely left party, but they are the only ones actually in opposition against the extreme-right wave right now. All the parties have gotten more and more right-wing, to the point where most now have a discourse about say migrants or sick people that is the same as the extreme right party had 20 years ago. The supposedly "extreme" left party is now vaguely social-democratic, which is as good as it gets. And even if I don't like them at least they bring out public dossiers on corruption, pollution, etc.

Polls are bad, looking to be a big victory for the extreme right. There were a number of scandals with right & extreme right party members discovered to be paid to spy for Russia or China, but most people don't seem to care.
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I'll be voting Vooruit, and hope they pull the Flemish and federal gov to the left. Coalition talks for federal gov are going to be tricky. Don't understand why Mehdi linked himself to Bouchez, who by all accounts is a total jackass.

obin_gam said:
No party in my country is for weed legalisation, so I dont know what to vote for.

What block in Brussels are for it?
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Legalisation of weed would not be an EU competence, so it's irrelevant which group would be in favour. I guess closest would be Greens or maybe even Renew.
 
Johnny Blaze

Johnny Blaze

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Oct 29, 2017
4,289
DE
Just realized the ECR stands for conservatives and reformists lmao

Anyways we're all shifting to the right and are getting fucked.
 
Dascu

Dascu

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Oct 28, 2017
2,015
If I can add, ultimately, the Parliament isn't "that" important.

EPP, S&D and Renew will continue to have a majority to find compromises. Votes on files vary across party lines. It's far more important to see who the main rapporteur (= draftsperson) (and their advisors) is behind a file, and there's a ton of variance within groups (you can sometimes find more leftwing people in EPP than some folks in S&D).
The main power also still lies with the Commission and the Council/Member States.

So, while there will be a shift to the right, I don't think it will substantially change the current status quo. It vastly depends on what the Commission will propose in the next 5 years, who are the key commissioners, and which parties govern the Member States.
 
EagleClaw

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
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Dascu said:
If I can add, ultimately, the Parliament isn't "that" important.

EPP, S&D and Renew will continue to have a majority to find compromises. Votes on files vary across party lines. It's far more important to see who the main rapporteur (= draftsperson) (and their advisors) is behind a file, and there's a ton of variance within groups (you can sometimes find more leftwing people in EPP than some folks in S&D).
The main power also still lies with the Commission and the Council/Member States.

So, while there will be a shift to the right, I don't think it will substantially change the current status quo. It vastly depends on what the Commission will propose in the next 5 years, who are the key commissioners, and which parties govern the Member States.
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The EU Parliament elects the President of the Commission and the Commissioners and also has to adopt every EU legislation that effects citizens and businesses of member states per a majority vote.
Saying that the Parliament doesn't matter is some misinformation.

But it is true that Members of the Parlaiment aren't bound to party voting.
 
Siresly

Siresly

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Oct 27, 2017
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For Sweden, according to this survey, I generally agreed the most with Socialdemokraterna and Centerpartiet regarding various EU related policies, on topics that I'm generally not very educated on, so not necessarily 100% representative of what my stance might be if I was.

But I think while Vänsterpartiet is occasionally stupid, like with their shaky dillydallying in sending arms to Ukraine, I generally agree with their politics, strongly with some like their focus on climate, stance on Palestine, and them being the furthest from the far right, providing the strongest drive to oppose them. Otherwise my vote might've gone to Miljöpartiet or Centerpartiet. I don't trust Socialdemokraterna's malleability. It's a big mass appeal party that needs to try to make a lot of people happy enough, and I feel is prone to shift towards where the wind is blowing, at least more so than others.
 
obin_gam

obin_gam

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Oct 25, 2017
6,082
Sollefteå, Sweden
Siresly said:
For Sweden, according to this survey, I generally agreed the most with Socialdemokraterna and Centerpartiet regarding various EU related policies, on topics that I'm generally not very educated on, so not necessarily 100% representative of what my stance might be if I was.

But I think while Vänsterpartiet is occasionally stupid, like with their shaky dillydallying in sending arms to Ukraine, I generally agree with their politics, strongly with some like their focus on climate, stance on Palestine, and them being the furthest from the far right, providing the strongest drive to oppose them. Otherwise my vote might've gone to Miljöpartiet or Centerpartiet. I don't trust Socialdemokraterna's malleability. It's a big mass appeal party that needs to try to make a lot of people happy enough, and I feel is prone to shift towards where the wind is blowing, at least more so than others.
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Id add that Jonas Sjöstedt is one of the few remaining common sense politicians in Sweden as well
 
AzorAhai

AzorAhai

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Oct 29, 2017
6,871
France Insoumise (France Unbowed) gets my vote without hesitation this time in France.

There is a lot to criticize about them (lack of internal democracy, some stupid national representatives, questionable strategy...) but they support the NUPES (2022's left alliance) programme and oppose both Israel and Russia. That's more than enough to be the better choice.
 
Dascu

Dascu

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Oct 28, 2017
2,015
EagleClaw said:
The EU Parliament elects the President of the Commission and the Commissioners and also has to adopt every EU legislation that effects citizens and businesses of member states per a majority vote.
Saying that the Parliament doesn't matter is some misinformation.

But it is true that Members of the Parlaiment aren't bound to party voting.
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The President is nominated by the Council, and the Parliament barely rejects commissioners (OK, they swap out one or two candidates each time during the confirmation hearings). The Parliament does not adopt every EU legislation; various Delegated and Implementing Acts only partially get reviewed by the EP. And Council and Commission usually weigh heavier during trilogue negotiations to finalize legislation. My general point is that, based on polls, the overall weight in the EP isn't going to change that much, at least not to a degree that I think having some more ECR or more ID in the committees and Plenary will make a huge difference.
 
EagleClaw

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
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Dascu said:
The President is nominated by the Council, and the Parliament barely rejects commissioners (OK, they swap out one or two candidates each time during the confirmation hearings). The Parliament does not adopt every EU legislation; various Delegated and Implementing Acts only partially get reviewed by the EP. And Council and Commission usually weigh heavier during trilogue negotiations to finalize legislation. My general point is that, based on polls, the overall weight in the EP isn't going to change that much, at least not to a degree that I think having some more ECR or more ID in the committees and Plenary will make a huge difference.
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The President is elected by the Parliament with an absolute majority.
But it is true that the President is nominated by the Council, and will be someone from the strongest party of the Parliament.

The EU Parliament has the same power as the Council during the ordinary legislative procedure.
EU laws have to pass the EU parliament with a majority vote.
The Council can't just decide that there will be a EU green deal, or that travellers get compensations for late flights.
 
Mivey

Mivey

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Oct 25, 2017
18,119
Already voted two weeks ago via mail. I just hope the current relative majority of the large center parties can be sustained. The anti Europe parties will obviously win big, but at least them having an out and about majority on the EU parliament level is luckily still far away. Once that happens, I'm not sure what will happen though. EU is already super dysfunctional. Once the parliament is taken over by crazies, it feels like the whole thing might just collapse.
 
titanblade

titanblade

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Mivey said:
Already voted two weeks ago via mail. I just hope the current relative majority of the large center parties can be sustained. The anti Europe parties will obviously win big, but at least them having an out and about majority on the EU parliament level is luckily still far away. Once that happens, I'm not sure what will happen though. EU is already super dysfunctional. Once the parliament is taken over by crazies, it feels like the whole thing might just collapse.
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The key is that pro-European parties must maintain the majority in the European Parliament. As long as that is assured, compromises and agreements can be made between themselves. Even if the EPP and S&D lose their majority they can still dialog with pro-european groups such as Renew and The Greens.
Unfortunately, anti-European parties don't exist only on the Right but also on the Left. These parties view the EU and the Euro as nothing but neo-liberal projects, and when it comes to limiting the actions of the EU (such as the application of Article 7 to Hungary) their vote are more often aligned with groups such as the ECR and ID than one would think.
I know that Resetera in general tends to favor parties that are more on the Left side of the political spectrum, so I hope that before voting these users get a clear picture of what have been the actual positions in the past of the MEPs of the parties they are considering voting for.

This site makes it really simple to search for votes by topic.
https://howtheyvote.eu
 
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EagleClaw

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
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Latest, and maybe last, projection.

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Grand Coalitions with Renew or Greens would have a majority.
The Grand Coalition +RE of the current EU Commission would hold their majority, but it has to be seen if S&D and RE would
support another von der Leyen term.
A possible Center-left option will be weakened, Center-right also doesn't seem to be an option.
Far-Right and anti-EU will have huge gains, but can't reach a majority.
 
Spesi

Spesi

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Apr 26, 2022
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Finland
Voted today, local library was surprisingly full & took almost 45mins to vote (was my own fault since we went there on last minutes).

Polls don't forecast too good results for Greens in Finland, but let's see. Keeping my fingers crossed that moderate rights will not jump into bed with right-wing lunatics, but tbh I'm pretty pessimistic.
 
Mucha

Mucha

Member
Oct 27, 2017
408
The Netherlands
Just voted, went with GroenLinks-PVDA in the Netherlands as I also voted for them in the national elections. Interested in the results.
 
Geido

Geido

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Oct 30, 2017
1,139
Also just went, it was pretty busy at my voting office. Voted Volt like in the general elections.
 
VibrantStorm

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Spesi said:
Voted today, local library was surprisingly full & took almost 45mins to vote (was my own fault since we went there on last minutes).

Polls don't forecast too good results for Greens in Finland, but let's see. Keeping my fingers crossed that moderate rights will not jump into bed with right-wing lunatics, but tbh I'm pretty pessimistic.
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It just happened in the netherlands, so i assume it will happen in eu too
 

GUArutha

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Apr 25, 2018
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EagleClaw said:
Debate between lead candidates for the Commission presidency


View: https://www.youtube.com/live/FvRBST7PiRw?si=OQQCl763Ml7W-MCL

The far-right and nationalist groups ID and ECR have no candidates for the Commission presidency and are therefore missing.

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As a Swiss I'm obliously interested in the elections of my neighbours. But why how do these abroad votes work? An Irish citizen who is living in Germany. Does he/she have a vote? Because Ireland doesn't allow abroad voting. Do you vote where you live or which citizenship you have? (citizenship would not be logical to me)
 
svacina

svacina

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Oct 25, 2017
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GUArutha said:
As a Swiss I'm obliously interested in the elections of my neighbours. But why how do these abroad votes work? An Irish citizen who is living in Germany. Does he/she have a vote? Because Ireland doesn't allow abroad voting. Do you vote where you live or which citizenship you have? (citizenship would not be logical to me)
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Any EU citizen with permanent residence in Czechia can vote in our EP elections but for our MEPs only. We do not allow voting from abroad in EP elections either. I assume it's gonna be similar elsewhere.
 
Dascu

Dascu

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Oct 28, 2017
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GUArutha said:
As a Swiss I'm obliously interested in the elections of my neighbours. But why how do these abroad votes work? An Irish citizen who is living in Germany. Does he/she have a vote? Because Ireland doesn't allow abroad voting. Do you vote where you live or which citizenship you have? (citizenship would not be logical to me)
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Citizenship. For example, Italians living in Brussels can vote at the Italian consulate there. National rules on who can vote and how don't necessarily apply to EU elections; so even in your case if Ireland may not allow abroad or postal votes for Irish national elections, they may be allowed to do so for the EU elections (just speculating).
 
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