Eurovision Song Contest 2024 |OT| "Not a political event"
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Look if he punched someone I get that there is a penalty of some sorts, regardless of context. It should not happen period.
But if the rumors that someone was joking/making remarks about his dead parents, I do absolutely sympathise with Joost. And I would hope whatever crew the person that caused it faces sanctions as well. In a contest like this you cannot have crews/artists fighting or trying to sabotage each other. Verbal abuse is also violence in my book.
But at this point we simply don't know. What a damn mess this edition is. As a Dutch person this obviously puts a massive hamper on my enjoyment.
But if the rumors that someone was joking/making remarks about his dead parents, I do absolutely sympathise with Joost. And I would hope whatever crew the person that caused it faces sanctions as well. In a contest like this you cannot have crews/artists fighting or trying to sabotage each other. Verbal abuse is also violence in my book.
But at this point we simply don't know. What a damn mess this edition is. As a Dutch person this obviously puts a massive hamper on my enjoyment.
Read the thread. So far nothing points to any involvement of israel.
As much as i sympathize with him and his story if he goes around singing about love and peaceful europe and then starts punching people at eurovision he can fuck right off.
Rightful may not be the correct term, but I can imagine certain personal comments can infuriate someone and push them over the edge in a stressful time. Both the punching and the remarks themselves are speculation / rumors though, but like I said, I am starting to think he did something he really shouldn't have.
I been following Joost a bit longer and he doesn't strike me as that person. But then of course anything can happen. So it's best to wait until there finally is some news
I don't believe there is any criminal law, atleast in Europe, that allows to physical hurt someone because they said something hateful.
And i'm pretty sure if there was some punching it got reported to police, because i can't believe that an artist at the ESC wouldn't report it.
Well, it is all just speculation.
I haven't seen any real source about anything.
Funny thing last year Greece gave Cyprus just 4 points which was the difference of Cyprus going to the final this year,was a very minor controversy(lmao) for a minute there.
According to a Dutch newssite, Malmö police is also investigating.
https://www.ad.nl/songfestival/zwee...e-ondervragen-de-betrokken-personen~adf7cc86/
Apparently they're talking with involved parties/people.
https://www.ad.nl/songfestival/zwee...e-ondervragen-de-betrokken-personen~adf7cc86/
Apparently they're talking with involved parties/people.
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wtf
if they ever made bambi disqualified I wont ever watch this show again ever
Voting for rest of the world should have opened 16 minutes ago after already being delayed for 2 hours, but still nothing...
Update: confirmed on the website that voting has been postponed due to an ongoing investigation into Joost Klein.
Update: confirmed on the website that voting has been postponed due to an ongoing investigation into Joost Klein.
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That does actually make more sense then an actual physical confrontation that would be more cut and dry. A threat would often be more murky to prove and investigate, thus would take more time.
It also makes it much more complicated from a PR view. This thing is already a mess, and if Joost "only" threatened to punch someone that was an ass for example, the vast majority of public opinion would probably be "yeah he shouldn't have done that but I can totally understand, he shouldn't be disqualified for just that". The organization doesn't want the public opinion turning even more against them. If it was a clear thing we probably already would have heard something by now.
It also makes it much more complicated from a PR view. This thing is already a mess, and if Joost "only" threatened to punch someone that was an ass for example, the vast majority of public opinion would probably be "yeah he shouldn't have done that but I can totally understand, he shouldn't be disqualified for just that". The organization doesn't want the public opinion turning even more against them. If it was a clear thing we probably already would have heard something by now.
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It's one of those things we need more time to know about but there just simply isn't any given we are mere hours away from the show. It's just a shame a usually lighthearted event has turned into this mess.
I don't know if I will watch tonight just because I don't think I'll be able to enjoy it without thinking about all the back stage stuff.
I don't know if I will watch tonight just because I don't think I'll be able to enjoy it without thinking about all the back stage stuff.
I kind of doubt they would go through all this just because of something someone said, I mean that would be highly irregular in showbusiness (and I know this is a problem with showbusiness much more than the other way around but still), canceling one of the crowd favorites for some backstage words is very damaging to the brand. Unless he threatened someone from the sponsor, and they're threatening to pull out, of course.
According to Dutch Media the Swedish police confirmed nothing physical happened.
There's a special broadcast 30 minutes from now (NOS/Netherlands)
So all this based on something Joost may have said? No wonder it takes so long they need to be 10000 precent sure they want that heat for DQ'ing someone
EBU is seemingly blind to all that. The televote tonight is going to be such a shitshow.
Joost Klein will not perform at the Grand Final.
If it's reported to the police like the incident with the female member of staff then yes.
I'm sure that the void of information until now will mean everyone believes this, right, right?
An allegation has been made about inappropriate words and pending investigation we are disqualifying a contestant. I assume they have some really incriminating pee pee tape, or this will just be escalating fuckery from now on.
Yeah I have been watching for years and it's became a huge importance for me when I self accepted. But if this turns out to be nothing I hope we just stay away
That was already stated (as a rumour) yesterday, so it's still the same story. There was talk about an altercation with "production staff", which would be someone from either the EBU, the local Malmö Arena staff or SVT.
But I guess more conspiracy theories is what's needed now. Some people really need to ease off on their unhealthy obsession with the Israeli delegation.
The harassments amount to the Israeli delegation writing snarky stories about delegations who have also harassed the Israeli delegation and it's just mutual mud slinging.
IDK, they should try to file a police report about someone writing about Bambie Thug that they're "not a friend" and see how it goes I guess...
Anyway bummed for Joost, it was a super fun song and I can't believe how sad he is for having his dream taken away... I hope we get the full story soon. I hope he didn't actually do anything too bad, he really doesn't seem like the person to attack or threaten someone, but you never know.
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