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Fable reboot confirmed to run on ForzaTech and not on Unreal Engine 5.

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Do you want to have a major impact on 3 AAA titles in development across 2 beloved Xbox franchises? ForzaTech is the engine, tools, and pipelines that drive both the Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon series of games. In addition to adding new features like raytracing to support the next console generation, we are also enriching the toolset to support an open world action RPG – Fable.

The Tech Share team at Turn 10 builds new systems and tools that benefit all games running on ForzaTech, helps teams design features and tools in a shareable way, and provides support for our cross-studio content teams. We are looking for a generalist who is comfortable working across many different areas and enjoys learning new systems to help us craft a better ForzaTech.
 
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Exciting! Cant wait to see how versatile ForzaTech is. Might as well rename it to FTech for both Forza and Fable haha
 
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ForzaTech seems to be such a good engine and I can't wait to see more of Forza Motorsport and FH5 as well as Fable for the first time.
 
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So Playground will be using ForzaTech for FH5 and Fable..interesting and actually makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
 
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I don't think we'll see an Unreal 5 game from MS until Gears 6 unless Hellblade 2 was confirmed to use it which I don't think it was.
 
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Maaaan if they include seasons I hope they tie some exploration into the different seasons. Making stuff accessible during certain weather conditions.
 
Mifec

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I don't think we'll see a trailer at this E3 but I want to be wrong. MS, Fable 2 remasters and 3 rerelease please before this is out.
 
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Interested to see what this looks like. Hard to believe we haven't seen almost anything tangible from this yet, despite being rumoured to be in production fo a pretty long time.

defaltoption said:
Welp there you go that'll very likely be the first game from MS. I wonder if they'll be the first in general.
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Given the partnership with Sony, they likely have some cooking there as well, but who knows. When it was announced for Hellblade 2 it seemed like they would adopt it when the option was available, not that they were already doing so. I suppose that puts Hellblade 2 at 2022 at the earliest.
 
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Can't wait to see what this looks like. Think this is a good decision too - they are masters with it, and this can only improve it in ways that may benefit other games if different devs want to us it within Xboxland.
 
Dreazy

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Bro the dream is finally becoming a reality, every time I go for a drive in forza Horizon 3 an 4 I just dream about how amazing a rpg would be in there world
 
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Man, I'm really happy that we'll get a new Fable game, even if it's a reboot, I just hope that they'll do the soundtrack more like TLC, Fable 2 and 3 hardly ever had exploration music playing :/
 

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Hopefully it isn't turning Fable's development into a nightmare. We've seen how engines built from the ground up for other experiences (DICE/Frostbite) can hinder game development.
 

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Granjinha said:
For racing games, yes. Just like Frostbite is an estabilished engine for FPS's.

I think Playground and Turn 10 have a far more developed partnership than a lot of EA studios did when Frostbite was being mandated, just kinda worried, that's all.
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From how it sounds, this is not like when BioWare made their own branch of Frostbite for Dragon Age Inquisition and then didn't utilize it on later games. Just like all EA studios seem to be doing now (everything being added by one studio is shared with others), it seems Turn10 and Playground are iterating on the engine together.

Let's hope it works out well for Fable.
 
Tokyo_Funk

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I wouldn't be surprised if the new Fable isn't quite as open and large as say FH1-FH4 so they can pack more detail into the world. At least they've got plenty of reference photos/scans of England that can be used to construct assets.
 
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Forza Horizon 4 looks beautiful. I'm new to the series and it was the first game I downloaded on Gamepass that wowed me. This is sure going to be a looker!
 
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Fable is my most hyped Series X/S game. I think it's the game that has the most potential to be a 10/10 from MGS given the amazing foundations the series is built on and how the gameplay mechanics and systems could be expanded through next gen tech. I feel like Fable nails the feeling of the world reacting to your actions better than most games. Villages don't stop and cheer for me when I waltz into town after killing a boss in Elders Scrolls! Excited to see what Playground do. Got a feeling they are going to knock it out of the park.
 
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I wonder if they'll rename the engine since it's being upgraded and expanded for more than just racing titles now.
 
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Tokyo_Funk said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the new Fable isn't quite as open and large as say FH1-FH4
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You can try driving across FH4 map in a Peel P50.
That's more or less how fast you could realistically travel on horseback.
Yeah, it should be smaller and a lot more densely packed to be interesting to travel through on foot or by horse.
 

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This is something I've been thinking about. It makes sense for studios to use engines they are comfortable with, even if Unreal 5 potentially offers some cool tech.

So the Sony-Epic partnership feels rather weird to me. Will Naughty Dog drop their in-house engine for Unreal? Will Sony Santa Monica do so? Insomniac and Guerilla seem to have already settled on continuing the use of their in-house tech for next gen. I'm not sure Sucker Punch would want to switch from their proprietary engine either. As such, the only major Sony studio I know to be using Unreal is Bend. So I'm not sure what this partnership entails.

MS seems to have a lot more studios using Unreal. We know The Initiative is using Unreal for Perfect Dark reboot. Obsidian used it for both The Outer Worlds and Grounded. And and they are using UE5 for Avowed. Based on job listings, Inxile's first person rpg will also run on UE5. The Gears series already uses Unreal. Hellblade 2 does as well. Rare too builds their games in UE. Same goes for Double Fine, Mojang, Compulsion Games and Undead Labs.
 
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The Forza Horizon games are purty. Can't wait to see that tech applied to a fantasy world.
 
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Okii said:
You can stream Fable II on PC with xCloud, it was one of the first games I tried.
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People really need to stop telling PC players that streaming solutions are replacements for native ports. This happens with PS Now too. I'd rather just dig up my 360 then. But let's not derail this thread with "port begging".
 
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Granjinha said:
Hopefully it isn't turning Fable's development into a nightmare. We've seen how engines built from the ground up for other experiences (DICE/Frostbite) can hinder game development.
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First thing I thought of. The engine has been solely used for racing games until that point and thus is probably missing a lot of features required for making a RPG efficiently. Let's hope it turns out good for them, I'm very eager to see what it'll look like.

And the season thing is just a forza horizon feature, it doesn't mean their engine is specially made to show off multiple seasons in every game :p
In a RPG, that would imply a whole lot of work too.
 
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eso76 said:
You can try driving across FH4 map in a Peel P50.
That's more or less how fast you could realistically travel on horseback.
Yeah, it should be smaller and a lot more densely packed to be interesting to travel through on foot or by horse.
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Haven't actually played with the Peel at all. That's going to be a change from the McClaren 720S.

Yeah it should be smaller and focused so it doesn't end up being like the long slog of AC:Valhalla.
 
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The Frostbite comparison is weird. First of all Playground is heavily involved in Ftech engine development for years. Next unlike Frostbite the engine use isnt really "forced" on them. If they didnt think it was good for their game they wouldnt have chosen it themself.
 
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