'This is victory': Anti-smoking advocates applaud FDA's move to ban menthol cigarettes and flavored cigars
The regulatory agency stopped short, though, of including menthol-flavored e-cigarettes.
THE LIBS ARE COMING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR CIGARETTES
THE LIBS ARE COMING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR CIGARETTES
My dad isn't going to like this with banning menthol.
Is menthol worse than regular cigarettes? It's all bad to me.
Is menthol worse than regular cigarettes? It's all bad to me.
It's already banned in Canada for years, right?
It's less about being more harmful, and more about removing the entry point to smoking.
Menthol, and other flavored cigarettes, are easier to smoke, and thus is a flavor of choice for young people.
Banning Menthol will lead to a lot of younger smokers quitting:
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It's less about being more harmful, and more about removing the entry point to smoking.
Menthol, and other flavored cigarettes, are easier to smoke, and thus is a flavor of choice for young people.
Banning Menthol will lead to a lot of younger smokers quitting:
Canada-wide ban on menthol cigarettes leads to significant increases in quitting among smokers | Waterloo News
Bans on menthol cigarettes across Canada from 2016 to 2017 led to a significant increase in the number of smokers who attempted to quit, smokers who quit successfully, and lower rates of relapse among former smokers, according to a new research study from the International Tobacco Control Policy...
This kind of feels targeted at the black community? I'm all for common sense restrictions of tobacco as long as it isn't steeped in racism.
I don't even smoke...but why specifically menthol?
Banning flavors and shit is one thing, but going after menthol just doesn't make sense. Ban all tobacco/nicotine products, or ban none of them.
Banning flavors and shit is one thing, but going after menthol just doesn't make sense. Ban all tobacco/nicotine products, or ban none of them.
like, if you want to address health disparities among marginalized communities why not simply.....address health disparities among marginalized communities???
Its been banned in the EU now for a year now I think. It's because it lowers the bar to start smoking. It helps with the horrible aftertaste which you get used to after a while.
I've heard that menthol cigarettes are worse than regular and that menthol are purposely targeted at us.
Newports and Virginia Slim ads were all over JET magazine back in the day.
Newports and Virginia Slim ads were all over JET magazine back in the day.
Won't work, and it honestly seems kinda racist.
I smoke Djarum Blacks. Technically a flavored cigar, so I'm assuming they'd be out if this happens. ...Still won't work. A smoker will just learn to like something else.
Frankly I'd be in favor of tobacco products being banned entirely. Segmenting it off won't do a whole lot of anything, I don't think.
I smoke Djarum Blacks. Technically a flavored cigar, so I'm assuming they'd be out if this happens. ...Still won't work. A smoker will just learn to like something else.
Frankly I'd be in favor of tobacco products being banned entirely. Segmenting it off won't do a whole lot of anything, I don't think.
I guess part of me never understood why menthol was fine but flavored was not? Like, mint is a flavor.
The other part of me sees it as over-reaching. Menthols are not bringing in kids, so this seems like it would only affect adult smokers who will just move to standard tobacco.
Finally, I feel at odds with saying legalize weed and criminalize tobacco. How about invest in education and recovery?
The other part of me sees it as over-reaching. Menthols are not bringing in kids, so this seems like it would only affect adult smokers who will just move to standard tobacco.
Finally, I feel at odds with saying legalize weed and criminalize tobacco. How about invest in education and recovery?
Because flavored cigarettes and particularly mehthol flavored ones are more welcoming for newcomers, and the numbing effects of the menthol will mask some of the effects of smoking, which leads to an increase in the average of smoked cigarettes per person.
This seems like the kind of over-reach that might actually lose votes and polarize the targeted groups. It's one thing to fall short on the huge task of improving society at large, but when you start just yanking away people's small daily pleasures they will be pretty pissed and motivated.
ACLU is strongly against this.
Menthol cigarettes I get to some degree, the EU got rid of them as well, but banning flavored cigars is bullshit of the highest order. I don't smoke anymore, and even when I did I rarely went for flavored cigars, but it's freaking cigars for fuck's sake. I have never seen a kid smoke a damn cigar.
What's next, flavored pipe tobacco?
What's next, flavored pipe tobacco?
Galaxy brain take: This is all a long con to make conservatives start arguing on the side of smoker's rights to pave the way for marijuana legalization.
I believe that's in their power, but like always in America, you can sue the government and the courts will get to decide if they really can do that.
It is, like they say that pretty explicitly -
This is spun as a good thing but I am not a fan of that approach (also "children and black people" does not sit 100% well with me in this context).
Weed isn't addictive. Cigarettes are bad because they ruin your health, but they need to be a controlled substance because they're so horrifically addictive.
What will Newport even do?
Echoing this feels like it will disproportionately effect minority communities. At the same time less tobacco usage is a good thing.
Amd nobody smokes the tobacco in flavored cigars lol
Echoing this feels like it will disproportionately effect minority communities. At the same time less tobacco usage is a good thing.
Amd nobody smokes the tobacco in flavored cigars lol
Why do people think this is bad? Smoking is extremely bad for you, a huge drain of health resources, and a huge monetary burden on the people who are addicted. It doesn't just affect you unless you smoke alone in your house and don't use any medical resources to treat the numerous health issues.
also, menthol actually crystallizes in your lungs in addition to the tar buildup common with normal cigarettes.
i smoked menthols for years as a college student. i agree that it is a lower barrier to entry since it doesn't "hit" as hard as regular cigarettes. but i do not see the point in banning one and not the other.
also, would the flavored cigars include swisher sweets? i remember thinking 99 cents for a small cigar was a fucking steal as a broke college student.
i smoked menthols for years as a college student. i agree that it is a lower barrier to entry since it doesn't "hit" as hard as regular cigarettes. but i do not see the point in banning one and not the other.
also, would the flavored cigars include swisher sweets? i remember thinking 99 cents for a small cigar was a fucking steal as a broke college student.
Prohibition won't work and it will only make matters worse.
Sell weed??
Sell weed??
Menthol acts like vaporub, numbing your throat and lessening the harsh feeling of smoking. In other words, it makes it much easier to chainsmoke, which is why anti-tobacco advocates have been tying to get it banned for years.
As someone who smoked a bit in my early twenties, I'll have to say that the menthol ban in my country was a god send.
That isn't how legal things ever develop though. If you try and ban everything, you'll never make any progress at all. If you ban menthol nicotine products today, and get it passed, it then opens the door to another step of banning cigarettes in a later step.
It doesn't have to be "all or nothing", and I don't know why you would think it would.
They banned menthol cigarettes here in the UK sometime last year I think. As a menthol smoker this wasn't a big deal to me as I smoke rolling tobacco with menthol filters, which they oddly haven't banned yet. If they were to be banned i'd find it a lot easier to quit.
Banning menthol cigarettes is bullshit. I don't even smoke or like smoking at all but this is clearly a targeted move.
My immediate thought. The menthol part seems like... very targeted lol like kids aren't buying menthols to ease into smoking they just buy vape shit.
I feel like Swishers and the like are only getting lumped in here cause they see statistics for sales and are like "my god - people are smoking these things like crazy!"
No fool we're breaking like 90% of them up. Stahp
It has sort of been a "kick this can down the road" thing. When they banned flavored Cigarettes a decade ago, they put in the exception for Menthol, likely because they thought it would be perceved as racist to ban it. When they were doing the vaping legislation a few years ago that led Juul to pull all their flavored products, there was again an exemption for Menthol. This seems to just be them pulling the band-aid off