Should this thread contain open spoilers?

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Chaserjoey

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Why wouldn't it be a PS4 pro? That would have been the best option for a special console.
 

Spehornoob

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Watching Max's video on the demo + preview event and we got a little bit of information on the chapters and how much may be being expanded. No New Story Spoilers in my tag:

First Bombing Run is chapter 1, Meeting Aerith and escaping Shinra police is chapter 2, and then the second Mako Reactor is Chapter 7. That's a decent leap of time. The characters are apparently about 20 levels higher.

Also,he goes into heavy story detail on these, so be warned if you go check it out.
 
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That line Hediggar mentions in the demo. About if they are the same people that tried to take the Presidents life.

You know what I think?

Thats actually Yuffie. She is part of a group of assassins that tried to kill the president.

What does that mean? I honestly think we MIGHT get a glimpse of someone in a disguise who we will assume to be Yuffie. Not sure if they will 100% model her face, etc. But we may see her use her weapon. Like, we'll know its Yuffie but not actually see her. So the party still doesn't know its her when they eventually meet her later.
 

RagnarokX

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That line Hediggar mentions in the demo. About if they are the same people that tried to take the Presidents life.

You know what I think?

Thats actually Yuffie. She is part of a group of assassins that tried to kill the president.

What does that mean? I honestly think we MIGHT get a glimpse of someone in a disguise who we will assume to be Yuffie. Not sure if they will 100% model her face, etc. But we may see her use her weapon. Like, we'll know its Yuffie but not actually see her. So the party still doesn't know its her when they eventually meet her later.
It's a reference to Before Crisis. Avalanche tried to assassinate President Shinra in Junon. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Before_Crisis_-Final_Fantasy_VII-

While the pair reaches the President before the attack, the President's military escort proves ineffective against AVALANCHE's soldiers, who infiltrate the President's hotel. As Reno stays with the President, the Player Turk clears the building before the President insists on leaving for the conference in spite of the danger.

Forced to act as the President's street escort, the Player Turk and the President enter the conference building where, dressed as Shinra troops, AVALANCHE momentarily captures the President before the Player Turk saves him as Reno returns to help. Cutting the power to the building Fuhito arrives and while Reno escapes with the President, the Player Turk is defeated by Fuhito. AVALANCHE has hijacked the Sister Ray cannon.

As Reno returns the President to his quarters, Rufus Shinra calls and notes the new Turk's progress before Veld informs him of the Sister Ray's hijacking. The President sends Reno to liberate it, leaving him open for Fuhito to enter the room and shoot him. Still alive, the President orders Veld to send in Sephiroth to destroy AVALANCHE.
 

Aly

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Between how much they're expanding this first part, the results of the popularity polls, and the recent talk about taking more from the compilation my hopes for playable and expanded Zack have dramatically risen.
 
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It's a reference to Before Crisis. Avalanche tried to assassinate President Shinra in Junon. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Before_Crisis_-Final_Fantasy_VII-

While the pair reaches the President before the attack, the President's military escort proves ineffective against AVALANCHE's soldiers, who infiltrate the President's hotel. As Reno stays with the President, the Player Turk clears the building before the President insists on leaving for the conference in spite of the danger.

Forced to act as the President's street escort, the Player Turk and the President enter the conference building where, dressed as Shinra troops, AVALANCHE momentarily captures the President before the Player Turk saves him as Reno returns to help. Cutting the power to the building Fuhito arrives and while Reno escapes with the President, the Player Turk is defeated by Fuhito. AVALANCHE has hijacked the Sister Ray cannon.

As Reno returns the President to his quarters, Rufus Shinra calls and notes the new Turk's progress before Veld informs him of the Sister Ray's hijacking. The President sends Reno to liberate it, leaving him open for Fuhito to enter the room and shoot him. Still alive, the President orders Veld to send in Sephiroth to destroy AVALANCHE.

Ahhh, ok.

Is before crisis canon?
 

Macnair

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I haven't preordered yet and PSN just gave me a 15% off code a day after the demo went live. I'm trying to control myself not to buy it yet since my son's bday is coming up. So hard...
 

Malkier

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I haven't preordered yet and PSN just gave me a 15% off code a day after the demo went live. I'm trying to control myself not to buy it yet since my son's bday is coming up. So hard...
Just a reminder those codes don't work in preorders not sure when it expires though. Unless they changed practice.
 
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It was suppose to be today

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Scrooge McDuck

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Having Sephiroth onscreen doing more things absolutely lessens the impact of his iconic moments. Take the dead snake scene. A line like "Did Sephiroth do this?" doesnt hold anywhere near the same amount of weight if we've already seen the dude chop bridges in half.
To be fair, by that point we've already seen Sephiroth kill a giant dragon with one slash.

I mean, your example proves my point. If they did a super-strict remake, that's exactly what we would be getting and it wouldn't make much sense. This is seemingly going to be a a long ass game, (nearly) equivelant to the length of the original FFVII. It doesn't make sense to put all the twists & reveals at the exact same points in the overarching story as in the original when the story is this greatly expanded. Sephiroth CAN be revealed earlier now that Midgar itself might take 30-35+ hours. We are still getting tons of build-up to his confrontation. Having to wait for, like, hour 50 for Sephiroth to make an appearance wouldn't make sense. They can play around with some stuff within the storyline.
Honestly, I don't feel like a 30 hour story about terrorists who fight against an evil corporation that ends with them escaping the city under said corporation actually need the appearance of "the main bad guy" to make it engrossing. This remake is obviously going for another approach and that could also be successful, but I disagree with the notion that hiding the ultimate antagonist in the first entry of a series can't work.
 

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Nomura-san also mentions that sidequests have been created with a focus on quality, in the same way as the main story. Since the city of Midgar is quite big, there are areas where you can travel by vehicle.
twinfinite.net

Final Fantasy VII Remake Lets Cloud Crossdress in Different Ways; Tifa & Aerith Have Different Outfits

Today, Famitsu posted an interview with Final Fantasy VII Remake director Tetsuya Nomura, at it included a few interesting details about the game.
 

Chaserjoey

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I know I say this before I start every RPG, but I really think this time I'm going to need to stock up on potions and ethers.
 

Spehornoob

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twinfinite.net

Final Fantasy VII Remake Lets Cloud Crossdress in Different Ways; Tifa & Aerith Have Different Outfits

Today, Famitsu posted an interview with Final Fantasy VII Remake director Tetsuya Nomura, at it included a few interesting details about the game.
I mean everyone's talking about the headline but:

"Nomura-san also mentions that sidequests have been created with a focus on quality, in the same way as the main story. Since the city of Midgar is quite big, there are areas where you can travel by vehicle."

I wouldn't read too much into that or expect an open world or anything, but cool that they're trying to put a sense of scale to things. And good that they're trying to have decent side quests!
 

Nakenorm

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Something tells me you'll get different scenes/outfits during the Wall market part depending on which girl you show interest to during the game.
 
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i have to tell idk if i suck, but this game on normal its not easy, the hard difficulty will be really hard i think
 

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I'm guessing that novel character who'll show up is Evan Townshend, who is President Shinra's illegitimate son and a private detective. Probably a side quest giver, if I had to guess.

I hope they reference Cissnei and bring her in for one of the sequels, she's basically the only compilation character I'm really pulling for. The rest I kinda want wiped from existence or totally recontextualized.
 

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I'm guessing that novel character who'll show up is Evan Townshend, who is President Shinra's illegitimate son and a private detective. Probably a side quest giver, if I had to guess.

I hope they reference Cissnei and bring her in for one of the sequels, she's basically the only compilation character I'm really pulling for. The rest I kinda want wiped from existence or totally recontextualized.
i agree, the only other characters i like its Elfé and Deneh (suposedly red xiii "wife"), but more due to the design and concept i think their story and background are kinda bad so it would need to be changed. There's some turks in before crisis with cool designs too, but none got my atention or are interesting.
 

Bjones

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That's fucking insane. The way lighting interacts with material also looks photorealistic.

the thing is you can definitely tell most of the processing power goes toward the characters. The backgrounds and lighting look very flat in comparison. Which is okay since the aesthetic and design are so superb.

But..if they really wanted to WoW people they could throw some RT on the lighting and shadows for next gen and pc. Peoples heads would explode.
 

ultima786

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Max has his preview discussion on twitch after he finishes the demo playthrough. It was pretty spoilerly and sounded really insane at times. Like, really insane.

 

Spehornoob

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So do you guys think the camera will be improved notably by the time launch comes around?
I wouldn't expect anything drastically different. Maybe in a patch down the line.

That said, using the option to pull it back did wonders for me. It still gets a little messy in tight corridors but it's nothing game breaking, IMO.

Max has his preview discussion on twitch after he finishes the demo playthrough. It was pretty spoilerly and sounded really insane at times. Like, really insane.



I was watching this yesterday and it sounds nuts. That said, if anyone is at all sensitive to story spoilers, the should absolutely avoid this. Like, this goes into explicit detail on some major moments that did not happen in the original.
 
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Malkier

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Max has his preview discussion on twitch after he finishes the demo playthrough. It was pretty spoilerly and sounded really insane at times. Like, really insane.


Yeah to afraid to look at this point, considering going 9n media black out. SE pretty much showed the story as we know it I want leave as much mystery as possible for launch.
 

Toth

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I don't recall the leaks mentioning anything about vehicles or travel so that is interesting to hear.
 

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I don't recall the leaks mentioning anything about vehicles or travel so that is interesting to hear.
Its probably not what it means. I am thinking its possible that it means that "hey we gotta go here, lets take the bus" cutscene before a mission. I don't expect use to be able to actively travel. Especially after the S7 plate
 

icyflamez96

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i did it real quick to show the small difference



Oh sweet I can see all of his shoes now :D

Yeah small difference indeed. I don't know for sure if my problem with the camera is just the distance though but probably partly. I feel SE is usually pretty good at framing combat and I remember when I was watching certain gameplay before the camera seemed not SE like. (Espcially the Alps boss gameplay)

Thank you for your time
 

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played the demo again in classic not a fan of this version tbh, but playing again made me feel bad for jessie, i'm almost jumping ship to clessie ship
 

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I mean everyone's talking about the headline but:

"Nomura-san also mentions that sidequests have been created with a focus on quality, in the same way as the main story. Since the city of Midgar is quite big, there are areas where you can travel by vehicle."

I wouldn't read too much into that or expect an open world or anything, but cool that they're trying to put a sense of scale to things. And good that they're trying to have decent side quests!
I really hope that's true because after ff15 I'm preying they understood the reaction. They certainly did with the combat if nothing else
 

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I mean everyone's talking about the headline but:

"Nomura-san also mentions that sidequests have been created with a focus on quality, in the same way as the main story. Since the city of Midgar is quite big, there are areas where you can travel by vehicle."

I wouldn't read too much into that or expect an open world or anything, but cool that they're trying to put a sense of scale to things. And good that they're trying to have decent side quests!
Paging PlanetSmasher hopefully this eases you a bit more
 

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Are these available online yet?

Assuming they aren't insanely priced, I want the whole set.
 

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Are these available online yet?

Assuming they aren't insanely priced, I want the whole set.

It's a lottery thing in Japan at stores, I've seen a couple put up by people on Japan's Yahoo Auctions but shipping is always expensive there,and you usually need a proxy site or something to ship outside.

Im not very knowledgeable on that though.
 

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Max has his preview discussion on twitch after he finishes the demo playthrough. It was pretty spoilerly and sounded really insane at times. Like, really insane.


I wouldn't expect anything drastically different. Maybe in a patch down the line.

That said, using the option to pull it back did wonders for me. It still gets a little messy in tight corridors but it's nothing game breaking, IMO.



I was watching this yesterday and it sounds nuts. That said, if anyone is at all sensitive to story spoilers, the should absolutely avoid this. Like, this goes into explicit detail on some major moments that did not happen in the original.

Yup.
I saw
Cloud first-person view in Nibelheim showing kid Tifa and immediately peace'd-out

Yeah... I'm good for 5 more weeks after the demo. Not even sure I'll watch the inevitable 'launch' trailer. Just get me to the full release!
 
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