Usually the producer doesn't exert that much influence, do they?
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Like to watch cutscenes? There definitely is cause Pastel Melon showed them to us like a week ago.
If anything it was Kitase (you know, the actual director) who kept them in check. For example he rejected Toriyama's crazier ideas for the Midgar slums and also Masato Kato's less implicit sex scene between Cloud and Tifa.
Sakaguchi was setting up Square Pictures in Hawaii during development of FFVII.
If I recall, they also had an experience as kids where Tifa had Cloud try to take her through the mountains. Also, in the Niblehiem flashback her parents invite you to wait for her in her room. The game's rather vague about their relationship and the translation is notoriously poor to boot. But my impression is that they weren't superclose, or hung out on a regular basis, but they were still some level of friends. They both just happened to be hopelessly shy about asking the other out on a date. Hence why Cloud called her out to the water tower to talk about his joining Soldier. They knew each other well enough for that to be appropriate and for Tifa to go, but it wasn't like meeting at the water tower for a talk was a normal thing. (Heck, if anything she probably thought Cloud wanted a date.)
Sakaguchi was a writer for FFVII. He integrated the theme of Life/Death, as well as the Lifestream which is the cornerstone for the entire game. So yes, he had a pretty big influence.
Do you guys think FFVII-2 or whatever they call it will continue to be exclusive for a year on PlayStation or will they launch it on multiple consoles?
How similar is the story compared to the original FFVII? Are the new twists and storylines appropriate?
Given that VII was one of the cornerstones of the PS1's library, it wouldn't surprise me there will be a rotation of 1-Year PS4/PS5 exclusivity, then be released on other systems a year later.
It has the potential to go as bonkers compared to the original as Rebuild of Evangelion
For people who have played and beat it, do you get the dlc summons later without the codes or are the dlc summons dlc only?
haha no. At least not the big changes near the end, some of the side stories fit the setting.
I never played the Original and have just now peeked into the spoiler thread after I had some suspicions about these ghosts.
Man, I'm like honestly sad. I was very much looking forward to experiencing FF7 and its story for the first time and not some Batshit crazy Nomura Metastory about changing one's destiny or something that potentially only uses FF7 as a starting point.
Like, legit bummed out.
Still enjoying the game very much for its gameplay and setting (Chapter 9 right now) but I lost almost all interest in the story the second my assumption about the ghosts was confirmed.
Man, I'm like honestly sad. I was very much looking forward to experiencing FF7 and its story for the first time and not some Batshit crazy Nomura Metastory about changing one's destiny or something that potentially only uses FF7 as a starting point.
Like, legit bummed out.
Still enjoying the game very much for its gameplay and setting (Chapter 9 right now) but I lost almost all interest in the story the second my assumption about the ghosts was confirmed.
It's a strange one. I'm not massively against what they're doing, but they DID announce and market the game as an expanded retelling of the original, I don't think they ever said the story would end up being very different in the lead up to release. So yeah it is a bummer.
It's like they've made the changes with OG FF7 fans in mind (as in you need to know the original's story to 'get' most of them) - I don't know how you as a new player are meant to understand the story changes - but the vast majority of OG FF7 fans just wanted a mostly 1:1 remake, so I don't know who they're pleasing with the changes.
It's very baffling.
Do you think you'll play the OG later?
These are pretty much my feelings up to now (just finished chapter 4). I'm enjoying the game but I'm honestly not sure how much of that is due to straight-up nostalgia. And as you say, more padding than a mattress factory.
Yeah, the plate can't come down quickly enough for me at this point. Talk about taking a minor character I actually quite liked and making her overbearingly annoying by greatly expanding her role but having like 95% of that be constant Cloud thirst.
Definetly. I also am aware of the general story due to reading about it but explicitly wanted to wait for the remake as my first experience.
Not to knock the original but I have hero nostalgia (of course) and I'm not sure I can appreciate the game. I'm generally not too hot on JRPGs and never really got into the older FFs.
Thing is, from what I knew about the general story of FF7, I was really looking forward to a game that goes back to a more straight forward and self-contained story with a rather original blend of scifi, fantasy and ecological themes. And not the crazy convoluted stories especially Nomuras games are infamous for.
Regarding how the remake feels for me as a "non-fan", to me it was clear at around the scene with aerith in the church that they are going for some kind of meta-commentary and lost me almost immediately here because it felt like it was very much not made for me as a newcomer who wants to experience the story for the first time.
As someone who played the original, some of the scenes in Chapter 10 & 11 are confusing me:
- Was the game implying that Eligor killed kids Aerith used to play hide and seek with? I'm not sure what the value of that scene was.
- How does Aerith know about Marlene before Tifa even asks?
- The scene in Seventh Heaven between Aerith and Marlene is odd. The screen distorts like when Cloud is having one of his episodes, and suddenly Marlene goes from sad to very cheerful. What is going on here?
Wait, what? So what was Kato planning for the scene?
And I don't mind Jessie, she's OK. Roche can go fall in a pit of used heroin syringes though. God, what an annoying twatwaffle.
i feel there's a general sentiment here of enjoying the game but can feel the padding. I've just done getting to mako reactor 5. And yeah it's a drag. I can't believe they've spent 6 years making this. Just padding out the existing sequences With filler. The motorcycle section was awful, but at least it was a new area.
the game should have been the whole game or at least the first disc.
It's somewhat explained later on when she does it again but not really.
Isn't it?! That was so good, I have a certain song on repeat lol.
Sakaguchi had a lot influence in FF as a producer. He was the head of development of the projects, so, he was very important in the creative part in the games and thats why i say that he had all of them in check. Sakaguchi himself clarified this on more than one occasion.
IGN interview about FFIX in 2000...
Interview with Hironobu Sakaguchi - IGN
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Interview about TLS in 2012...
Hironobu Sakaguchi y The Last Story
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That is incorrect. They settin up Square Pictures after finishing FFVII. That's why he was not present at FFVIII but he was at FFIX (his development was in Hawaii, same as the movie).
On the other hand, Nomura had in check Kitase and Nojima so they don't kill all the characters except three characters the player chooses!
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I wish Square had gone further with the premise. For a while it seemed like this would be an entirely new story but they had to end it with Sephiroph being "oh it still hasn't happened yet but it will."
At least with Star Trek, it seemed like it would be an entirely new universe (even if they eventually changed course to simply do the same thing again), but here they don't even wait for the credits to roll before telling you it won't be that different.
At least with Star Trek, it seemed like it would be an entirely new universe (even if they eventually changed course to simply do the same thing again), but here they don't even wait for the credits to roll before telling you it won't be that different.
I think you got it a little wrong, it will be that different that's the whole point of the Whispers. Characters are alive that should be dead, events playing out differently or not at all, etc.
There will probably still be Meteor and Holy but other than that who knows.
I didn't know she was from the compilation.
Nice, more of it please.
A flashback with Angeal and Zack in part II would be great.
Kinda cross posting from the OT here, but I think the episodic format is gonna be very beneficial to summons. They can just keep adding in each game and we'll eventually have a roster quantity that meets or surpasses the originals by the end, but much better and deeper.
I see they're starting to finish up :P
You still liked the game a lot didn't you? Let the end stuff sit for a while, it's not bad bad it's just bad.
To get this out of the way, no remake will ever appeal to anyone more than it does to the original fans. They're going to have that whole other dimension of seeing what they already love with better production values.
however, I think despite the confusing story changes, this is a world worth jumping into. You can still enjoy the original story, characters, locations and music that made the original great. What they translated, they did a great job so far (I'm on chapter7)
I could literally have upper S7's acoustic guitar track on loop all day. Just standing here with my eyes closed. This is so beautiful
really liking the new expanded story and areas, very well done
I think a lot of people will come to terms with the ending more if they watch IGN's explanation video of it. it's still pretty silly and dumb but it's not as severe as it might first seem. Except the Biggs stuff, that will forever be a mistake.
Yeah, funny how the only summon from Smash's Midgar stage we didn't get was Ramuh. Means you can't unleash massive Lightning damage either, which I figure was deliberate considering how many enemies are weak to it in Midgar.
Yeah, funny how the only summon from Smash's Midgar stage we didn't get was Ramuh. Means you can't unleash massive Lightning damage either, which I figure was deliberate considering how many enemies are weak to it in Midgar.
Oh she comes off the train too. Was she on the train?!? I haven't replayed the first two chapters yet and don't remember the random people on it too well.
I have no idea. I don't have the game yet.Oh she comes off the train too. Was she on the train?!? I haven't replayed the first two chapters yet and don't remember the random people on it too well.
I was looking at a stream and wondered if they would let Zack live and looks like they did?
So what's Cloud point then? Wasn't he supposed to live and fight in the name of Zack and Angeal's sword?
Looks like they're trying to ruin everything for a perfect ending, and that reminds me of FF XV where they planned an ending where everyone is alive at the end too, ugh...
So what's Cloud point then? Wasn't he supposed to live and fight in the name of Zack and Angeal's sword?
Looks like they're trying to ruin everything for a perfect ending, and that reminds me of FF XV where they planned an ending where everyone is alive at the end too, ugh...
I broke down and bought FFVII...
I was going to hold off for the eventual Xbox port for the 1X, so I guess I'll just have to deal with slow loading textures on my launch PS4 ... all this talk of changes to the story, I can't wait till next year.
guess I'll double dip later. Cheers.
I was going to hold off for the eventual Xbox port for the 1X, so I guess I'll just have to deal with slow loading textures on my launch PS4 ... all this talk of changes to the story, I can't wait till next year.
guess I'll double dip later. Cheers.
The implication is that Zack survived in an alternate timeline as a result of the team destroying the whispers. The only real indication of this is the Stamp on a bag of chips that flies by the camera being a different breed of dog. It's very silly, but it presumably doesn't change the "core" timeline. Unless Zack inexplicably abandoned Cloud at Midgar, giving him mental trauma, and up and left.
God knows where they're going with it.
I don't know who Kyrie is but that outfit is...uh...well it's like "here are my fetishes" The Character.
Don't joke about shit like that. Especially over a goddamn video game.
EDIT: Oh, this user has a history of stuff like this? Then yeah get help.
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Chill. I doubt you properly processed the ending. Let it sit for a while.
Seen the spoilers, seen the ending, right now on chapter 5 myself.
Isn't this Final Fantasy XIII with a FFVII coat of paint? With an improved combat system.
Isn't this Final Fantasy XIII with a FFVII coat of paint? With an improved combat system.
Are you fucking kidding me, I'm literally having a discussion right now with my wife about therapy. Gtfo with your dumb ass ninja-"videogame"-response, it's 15 years of my fucking life
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