Yeah but Villa are facing crystal palace away is that is going to be a very difficult game. Tottenham absolutely must win tomorrow to complete for top 4
Of course. I meant that even if Villa would've lost today, Spurs would still be in the exact same position. They'd still need to win against City.
Still can't fucking believe we're relying on Tottenham to help us win the title. It's wrong wrong wrong and cheering on Spurs is a dark step we cannot walk back from.
That said.
That said.
To be honest at 3-1 up Liverpool had some chances to kill the game off once and for all too. Story of the season really! Or at least since like April or so.
Could get quite crazy if you're drawing late on and pushing for the win since you need to win and you're quite open normally imagine the potential counter attacks for Man City.
They beat united 4-0.
If they have a fit squad they are likely beating them.
I definitely am. Don't really have a dog in this race but I strongly prefer Arsenal over City so...
You say that like Villa and United are of comparable quality.
Well as funny as it sounds while they might not be comparable but United actually beat villa at home.
Basically Palace are in top form at home right now. They are not going to at least lose to villa.
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Watching youtube and while arsenal might not win the league, seeing Tottenham fans suffer and ridicule themselves over arsenal is the most funniest thing ever.
I've already resigned myself to Man city winning. Arsenal MIGHT get lucky but don't count on it. Just take today's game as a fun game unless spurs get in a winning position...cause i'll be sweating buckets then..
I've already resigned myself to Man city winning. Arsenal MIGHT get lucky but don't count on it. Just take today's game as a fun game unless spurs get in a winning position...cause i'll be sweating buckets then..
A lot of Arsenal fans are hyping up Spurs taking points but I know City will score within 2 minutes and bury the dream very quickly lol
For me, the Spursiest thing they could do would be to play amazingly, be 1-0 up in the 89th minute before throwing the game with two stupid mistakes. Their fans rejoice at Arsenal's suffering and are taking the piss all week, then Man City lose to West Ham and Arsenal win the title anyway. That would be peak Spurs, but it's even less likely than the basic "Spurs beat City."
the thing is I wouldn't even be surprised if we win tonight, hand arsenal the title, and then lose to sheffield united next week. would be peak spurs behaviour.
if we are going to lose tonight (which I'm sure we will), I want it to be in the most soul crushing fashion for arsenal fans. 1-0 up in 96th minute, then concede twice. that kind of thing. misery loves company.
if we are going to lose tonight (which I'm sure we will), I want it to be in the most soul crushing fashion for arsenal fans. 1-0 up in 96th minute, then concede twice. that kind of thing. misery loves company.
I saw Ange's comments on it and I'm inclined to agree.
I think the whole 'lets throw the game' mentality is understandable from terminally online fans who'll have to avoid twitter, reddit, or whatever, but the idea you'd expect professional athletes or fans who watch every week (without having to suffer too much social media discourse) would rob themselves of Champions League football to stop Arsenal winning a title when they'll probably be up there again next year too, is a bit silly.
The only win-win here is that you either win, and get to claim you're great, fight for Champions League football or, you know, you lose and then pretend you had any choice in losing when the reality is that the team lost because they lost, and City are very good.
Also, Arsenal still need to play Everton. Its arrogant for any fans of the club to assume its 'nailed on' if City lose or draw. Sure, Arsenal would be favourites, and this would be a lot of hope and put Arsenal in pole position but its not a certainty until the final whistle blows. Especially with how poorly the team played at Old Trafford.
I think the whole 'lets throw the game' mentality is understandable from terminally online fans who'll have to avoid twitter, reddit, or whatever, but the idea you'd expect professional athletes or fans who watch every week (without having to suffer too much social media discourse) would rob themselves of Champions League football to stop Arsenal winning a title when they'll probably be up there again next year too, is a bit silly.
The only win-win here is that you either win, and get to claim you're great, fight for Champions League football or, you know, you lose and then pretend you had any choice in losing when the reality is that the team lost because they lost, and City are very good.
Also, Arsenal still need to play Everton. Its arrogant for any fans of the club to assume its 'nailed on' if City lose or draw. Sure, Arsenal would be favourites, and this would be a lot of hope and put Arsenal in pole position but its not a certainty until the final whistle blows. Especially with how poorly the team played at Old Trafford.
If Chelsea were in the position of having a win hand Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs or QPR the title, I would happily sacrifice Champions League qualification to not see those teams win the league.
You wouldn't be handing them the title, you'd be putting them in pole. There's still work to do. I just really don't get the feeling of ever actively rooting for my team to lose. I get thinking 'well, at least' after you do, but I'd never sit there and watch my team going 'lose, lose, lose' and I don't really understand that mentality.
I don't think any Arsenal fan would assume it was a sure thing, we've had enough bad games against Sean Dyche for that, it's just the knowledge that it's in your own hands
Actively wanting your team to lose is obviously weird. But that's part and parcel of football culture the World over. Schadenfreude is as much a part of football as supporting your own team.
It wasn't necessarily directed at anyone here, or anyone sensible. Nor is it really exclusive to Arsenal fans. Though i'm sure some of that is the banter merchants getting excited for who they can misattribute the word 'bottle' to once this has all blown over.
I think its totally fine if the point is 'if we lose, I'm not going to run away and cry about it', but the idea of watching my team and wishing for a loss, eh.
And for the point on schadenfreude, yeah, its sometimes the best part of football. Watching the collapses this year of Chelsea and Untied has been hilarious - much as Chelsea have tried to ruin our banter by going on a good run of form since being slapped about by Arsenal - Spurs... uh, spursing up the last few weeks, also funny.
But for that schadenfreude to take priority over your own team. I think thats maybe the fault of social media and the constant wheel of 'online banter' and people being more involved with what people online will say.
Teams win titles. If you're a fan of a top club, especially in England, your hated rivals (except Spurs) will probably win something, sometime.
I understand schadenfreude, but Arsenal fans expect City to win anyway. It's not the own they think it is and it comes off a bit pathetic.
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i mean it's true but it also explains why we won't really be bothered if we lose lol. not like being a spurs fan brings much in the way of joy, petty revenge is all I have
Varane announces departure from United
Everybody at the club thanks Raphael for his service, as the Frenchman confirms he will leave at the end of the season.
www.manutd.com
Shame but not a surprise. Great player still but can barely play more than two games in a row.
Can't have CL Varane with no CL.Varane announces departure from United
Everybody at the club thanks Raphael for his service, as the Frenchman confirms he will leave at the end of the season.
Shame but not a surprise. Great player still but can barely play more than two games in a row.
That's the most fun scenario for neutrals I would think, Arsenal and City going all out to get a ton of goals. Back and forth, twist and turns
Considering West hams defensive frailties, City could quite easily get 6 or 7 on Sunday too
Both teams could get an «Aguuueeeroo» moment. City scoring three goals first half, Arsenal 0-0 at the break. Insane second half from both.
Huge WSL news, really great to see this happen. I'd imagine Chelsea would follow eventually.
That'd be the CL Groups (if Arsenal qualify) and 8 out of 11 WSL home games. CL knockouts would be added too and they say other cups will be played at Boreham Wood but I'd imagine a big fixture against City, United, Chelsea, Spurs, etc... would potentially get to the Emirates too, calendar permitting.
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That'd be the CL Groups (if Arsenal qualify) and 8 out of 11 WSL home games. CL knockouts would be added too and they say other cups will be played at Boreham Wood but I'd imagine a big fixture against City, United, Chelsea, Spurs, etc... would potentially get to the Emirates too, calendar permitting.
View: https://x.com/ArsenalWFC/status/1790306320173695418
Liverpool fans (and United too I guess) know from personal experience that this isn't the way it pans out, they will turn the game around in the most annoying way possible.
I will never forgive Villa for blowing the 2-0 lead a couple of seasons ago
He's had a lot of injuries. He had 95 league appearances in his last 3 seasons at Real Madrid, compared to 67 for United. Brutal really.
We need to stop buying Madrid's cast offs. It never ever works. Both great players but both basically clapped out at 31/32.
I would cook you for this normally, but you're a fellow Tomb Raider 3 fan so I let you off lol
Big Sexy going to the MLS
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This one is quite a unique situation though. If Spurs win or draw and Arsenal go on to win the title it will still be remembered years from now. With Klopp leaving and Guardiola potentially in a year or two, Arteta getting one over the line this year could really set them up for the foreseeable future. Obviously, this match is just more than one game in isolation. If Spurs really wanted top 4 they could have already turned up at home to Arsenal or Chelsea, Liverpool or Newcastle away.
What do we think of Tottenham lads?
They are very much *not* shit! A bunch of brilliant players who can beat the best team in the world whenever they want! ⚪️🔵
They are very much *not* shit! A bunch of brilliant players who can beat the best team in the world whenever they want! ⚪️🔵
honestly I wish I wasn't a spurs fan so I could enjoy this situation more
It's such a fascinating scenario really. 37th match of 38, arsenals arch nemesis against their lone title rival to decide who is in pole position for Sunday
it's hilarious how much internal conflict among people it's causing:
Arsenal fans wanting spurs to win
Some Spurs fans either wanting their team to lose or not being bothered by losing just to spite Arsenal
I'm genuinely wondering what the sentiment will be if spurs play well and win. Normally it'd be a good thing, right? who cares about other teams, take care of your own business
But with how tribalistic and terminally online football fandom has gotten, I'd have to think that spurs will actually get bantered more if they win compared to losing, lmao
I actually genuinely have no fucking idea what I want. All I know is I always want Spurs to win, but I also don't want to be responsible for giving Arsenal the title advantage
Can we just not do this again after tonight
It's such a fascinating scenario really. 37th match of 38, arsenals arch nemesis against their lone title rival to decide who is in pole position for Sunday
it's hilarious how much internal conflict among people it's causing:
Arsenal fans wanting spurs to win
Some Spurs fans either wanting their team to lose or not being bothered by losing just to spite Arsenal
I'm genuinely wondering what the sentiment will be if spurs play well and win. Normally it'd be a good thing, right? who cares about other teams, take care of your own business
But with how tribalistic and terminally online football fandom has gotten, I'd have to think that spurs will actually get bantered more if they win compared to losing, lmao
I actually genuinely have no fucking idea what I want. All I know is I always want Spurs to win, but I also don't want to be responsible for giving Arsenal the title advantage
Can we just not do this again after tonight