That's how I feel about it too. I've been waiting for this moment for a very long time.
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Forbes Contributor: "I Don’t Even Understand How ‘Starfield’ Exists"
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The kneejerk response to people being excited for Starfield here on Era has me mildly amused honestly lol.
Pretty much the only place on the internet where some people (albeit a very small and vocal minority) are going out of their way to try and tell us that we can't trust BGS, that our expectations are unrealistic, that the game won't actually have any depth and on and on and on. I mean, I get it, if you're not a fan of BGS then Starfield may not be for you but the claims being made about it (and how it will inevitably fail) after an overwhelmingly positive direct showcase seem designed to be as reductive as possible.
Ah well, it's all noise and nothing is gonna take away from the excitment so many of us have built up for this game. The ambition and scope of Starfield is a breath of fresh air in an industry that is often way too stagnant.
I thought the gunplay in their thing last year was pretty average looking, and a minor step up from FO4 at best. The very rough performance of that demo last year didn't help either.
I think the gunplay they showed this year actually looked quite good. It'll come down to how it feels in translation from controller to screen, but the jump pack seemed to add a lot of speed and dynamism to the combat, and the visual feedback from the weapons seemed good and punchy. Also saw a lot of seamless use of grenades mid-combat, that looked really fluid and cool.
I doubt it'll feel as good as something built entirely around a tight shooting experience like DOOM or CoD or whatever, but it's the first time I can say I actually think the gunplay looks good - and not just by Bethesda standards.
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Yep. Alex Battaglia from Digital Foudry (a pc gamer) said that "the gunplay looked excellent" (36:27)
View: https://youtu.be/i9ikne_9iEI?t=2187
It's a good thing we've got people looking out for us to make sure we're not happy before we're happy at launch right lol
Usually people that are trying to crap on something I'm excited for bothers me more, and don't get me wrong, I think this guy sucks...
But I'm finding it more entertaining than anything for the most part. The complaints are getting more and more silly ever day, like grasping at straws. I don't think the nay-sayers will convince anyone otherwise. Game showcase just blew everyone away too much.
I get that but it's not like "OMG how on Earth can they do this?!?!?" Like it's not inconceivable they got to a game like this.
I was fine with the "RPG shooter" aspect, now its like Apex Starfield and I wonder if the resources would have been better spent on making more detailed sandwiches. But the whole Apex Legends things should dovetail with the different gravities if done right.
Hell yeah, the first week of a BGS launch are gaming magic. Everybody finding cool stuff in every corner and sharing their stories. That week where everything is new for everyone is so much fun. Can't wait.
Have any of the gaming outlets had any live hands on impressions of the game, tried to search online but could not find much.
Though I'd be personally wary of that, I remember Cyberpunk being demoed live as a slice of the game and that turned out to be a very small experience from the final game.
I am trying to keep my expectations in check not because I doubt BSG but the scale is making me wonder if all of them would function as intended. I mean sure there would be a couple of hiccups here and there but as a whole, I hope the team can pull off what they showed
Or Else it would atleast make for an entertaining Crowbcat video
Though I'd be personally wary of that, I remember Cyberpunk being demoed live as a slice of the game and that turned out to be a very small experience from the final game.
I am trying to keep my expectations in check not because I doubt BSG but the scale is making me wonder if all of them would function as intended. I mean sure there would be a couple of hiccups here and there but as a whole, I hope the team can pull off what they showed
Or Else it would atleast make for an entertaining Crowbcat video
No one is saying that it's inconceivable, it's just impressive that they're achieving this level of depth and scope. Most games don't even attempt that because it's not an easy thing to do, and time and resources aren't infinite.
After playing no man's sky at launch and being sad about the nearly complete lack of story, Starfeild feels exactly like what I want out of a Space Epic. I still like what I've played in No Man's Sky, it's just a different beast, but I'm really excited to see what a AAA studio can do with a huge budget, and a full story-focused RPG on top of the procedural stuff.
I'm so excited for this game, (even though every bethesda rpg kind of bums me out after 40 ish hours) but this is the first time I'm really skeptical about my 2070s setup. lol.
Hearing that the city is actually legitimately big is exciting.
Hearing that the city is actually legitimately big is exciting.
this is still 100% more content than every bethesda rpg before this....
I'm so dang pumped for the big city myself. Feels like everything I hear makes me go "is the hardware finally no longer holding the designers back!?" haha.
Breath of fresh air? Not sure where you're getting that from. Every AAA game these days wants to be the biggest and baddest sandbox possible and making people ooh and ahh at the ways that "they can go there". Like it'll be a detailed game with the kitchen sink, same as any big budget AAA game these days that gets a semi decent amount of development time for an open world. But "Breath of fresh air in the industry"? Genuinely no idea how you could ever arrive at that conclusion. It's more of the same Bethesda stuff with this year's new set of "crafting/customization/building" mechanics and a nice little hook with gravity mechanics on a wider scale then say something like The Outer Wilds already largely did really well. The procedural generated stuff is going to take a page out of No Man's Sky, or hell, the old pre Morrowind Elder Scrolls titles that used the same sort of design tricks to create a bigger world than you could ever reasonably create. If they've paid attention, they'll manage to maybe get semi closer to the CRPG roots of titles and give players something that resembles role playing genuinely (though Bethesda will still insist on all kinds of inane and boring guard rails, letting a player choose to fuck up their ever so pristine world organically has always been a no-no). And even though it wasn't like the most fantastic thing, Obsidian beat them to a lot of this stuff by a few years in The Outer Worlds too and it has to at a bare minimum match up to that game's dialogue and role play options (and those were kind of a historic low for Obsidian IMO).
Like Starfield can be a good, even pretty great and enjoyable game. But there's absolutely nothing about it I'd ever call that refreshing. Elder Scrolls but space and bigger and better just sound like more of the dirge of infinite growth corporatism that the industry is already suffering under to me. This is a Bethesda space game. Pretty, will have a decent world to mess about in, and will overload you on mechanics that will range from decently well thought out to undercooked. Not sure what radical new reinvention you could really believe this to be or genuinely new direction. Like, that's never been Bethesda's MO and they have typically chosen to pull back on possible new "breaths of fresh air" in favor of a more tailored, more universal experience that can appeal to more people.
Yeah my thoughts are roughly in line with yours on that. I don't think being very critical of that demo means I habour some long-standing hatred towards the game. I was impressed by the recent showcase but I'm still cautiously optimistic towards it.
In terms of gunplay on a 10 point scale that ranges between Rust console edition (1) to Titanfall 2 (10), I'm expecting (hoping) it'll be around a 7.
how many times has todd's sweet little lies video been linked so far in the first 11 pages.
cos really thats all we need. i'll believe it when i see it.
cos really thats all we need. i'll believe it when i see it.
God damn this game will and has caused an exorbitant amount of salt.
Getting early access 5 days early with the CE, can't wait.
Getting early access 5 days early with the CE, can't wait.
Yup, it's not a unfamiliar response.
When the game gets GOTY nods and 90+ MC it's good to really hurt some people based on comments here.
I wasn't really paying attention to this game, I even missed the gameplay reveal from a few days ago, but after looking at the 45 mins video, this looks like my kind of sci-fi game and something that will keep me satisfied until the next Mass Effect comes out in like 6-8 years or something.
I'm eager to play the game on pc gamepass, hope is optimized, but at the same time, I think it will be FallOut4 with random generated content. Also the lack of seamless space exploration (leaving and entering a planet) is a downer.
Be wary of vertical slices for marketing. That said, I don't think it's necessarily fair to compare this to something like the Cyberpunk 2077 demo -- Starfield releases in a few months, so what's in the game for that demo is presumably similar to what you're going to get in the actual release. The promised scale of the game is what gets me. I will find it astounding if Bethesda pulls that off well, because from an outsider's perspective looking at the massive amount of content, systems, and interactivity between those systems, it seems like there are so many ways things could go wrong. But if they stick the landing Starfield could easily be around the top of the GOTY conversation.
This is what impressed me, especially since Bethesda isn't exactly known for it's compelling gameplay mechanics.
If Starfield actually wins GOTY over TOTK, it will be the single most satisfying schadenfreude I'll ever feel in my life.
10 fully realized, handcrafted planets sounds amazing. Count me in.
But why would you watch a 45 minutes direct 10 times for a single game? It has only been 5 days 😯
I think ID or MachineGames helped them with gunplay. It does look pretty good now, the weapon design also seem ace.
To me, this looks like the first game that significantly takes advantage of next consoles for something that isn't graphics.
Even with the few next gen exclusive games I've played, they've felt like last gen games on steroids, even if they were good. As if they were supposed to be on the old consoles but got pushed way back by covid.
Starfield feels like a "next gen is here" moment, if everything pans out.
Even with the few next gen exclusive games I've played, they've felt like last gen games on steroids, even if they were good. As if they were supposed to be on the old consoles but got pushed way back by covid.
Starfield feels like a "next gen is here" moment, if everything pans out.
Might be one of the best Simpsons references I've seen on this site, gold star for you lol.
Even if Id didn't help with the shooting directly, you can assume they could have shared a few notes that Bethesda listened too, or even 343 now that they're under Xbox
This time his lies would reflect on a desperate Microsoft that needs a banger, they did delay it for a full year because they want it just right.
Not that i'm not skeptical about Todd but they didn't have a tech giant hovering over them in the past, this is a must-be-hit for Xbox.
Yeah this is the first game thats actually felt next gen to me, and not yet another game thats just entirely graphics while having the same boring old gameplay features and loops we've had for over a decade.
If Starfield lands the launch and the hype isn't a lie, it would easily deserve it.
But the enmity between Nintendo/ Microsoft fanbases isn't as vitriolic as it is vs those two and Sony respectively, so I can't see the fallout being that bad.
The real fun will be if Starfield DOES win, and begins getting GOTG labeling, and then pops up in every conversation for big titles the way BOTW did last generation.
The seethe on all sides will taste like candy dipped in honey.
If forced to make a bet now, I would say Starfield wins GOTY fwiw.
I mean come on, TOTK has like 999 less planets to explore pfft.
I mean come on, TOTK has like 999 less planets to explore pfft.
also doesn't feature realistic gravity simulations smh /s