Fortnite v3.4 removes 30fps option for consoles due to "significant GPU optimizations"

[Vashetti]

• Removed 30 FPS mode from Xbox One and PS4.
  • In v3.4 we made some significant GPU optimizations which improved visual quality, including resolution in 60 FPS mode, and we now feel there is very little reason to play at 30 FPS. - Developer Comment

Plus this:

• Made significant improvements to visual quality on consoles, including resolution improvements and texture sharpness improvements.
  • Improved texture filtering sharpness on PS4 and Xbox One.
  • Increased texture resolution on Xbox One.

https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/v3-4-patch-notes

Pretty interesting. Dark1x

 

[Deleted member 3897]

I read it as they removed 60 FPS and my heart almost stopped.

 

[Masterspeed]

I hope that means Save the World now has a locked 60 instead of Uncapped.

 

[RockmanBN]

Is the crazy pop in still there? Some update a few weeks after 3.0 made that really annoying.

 

[Hyun Sai]

But what about those who prefer 30 FPS for the "cinematic experience" ???

 

[tombo85]

These devs are really putting in the work on this game. PUBG needs to take note

 

[Wollan]

Good. Leave it in the past.

 

[aember]

I hope that means Save the World now has a locked 60 instead of Uncapped.

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That patch note is under "Battle Royale" if you follow the link, so it seems STW continues to dream about 60.

 

[RockmanBN]

But what about those who prefer 30 FPS for the "cinematic experience" ???

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24.6 is as cinematic as it gets!!!

 

[Pottuvoi]

Impressive.
I wonder if this means they got distance field AO fast enough for 60fps mode. (Or other things fast enough to allow it.)

 

[ScottyJayMan]

I think this is wrong. I know a few people who get motion sickness when playing 60fps. Why not keep the option on there?

 

[Fastidioso]

Isn't it 4k native mode on the X locked to 30 fps? So no more native 4k?

 

[Masterspeed]

That patch note is under "Battle Royale" if you follow the link, so it seems STW continues to dream about 60.

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STW continuing to get shafted as usual :(

 

[Tecnniqe]

But what about those who prefer 30 FPS for the "cinematic experience" ???

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[Masterspeed]

I think this is wrong. I know a few people who get motion sickness when playing 60fps. Why not keep the option on there?

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I don't want to be mean or anything, but people get motion sickness from 60fps? If anything it makes things smoother and less skipping.

 

[AYZON]

Impressive.
I wonder if this means they got distance field AO fast enough for 60fps mode. (Or other things fast enough to allow it.)

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Its part of it, Im not sure if youre actually interested or not but they talk about that in their GDC Talks. Specifically this video, in case anyone is interested.:

 

[ScottyJayMan]

I don't want to be mean or anything, but people get motion sickness from 60fps? If anything it makes things smoother and less skipping.

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For some people, it's too smooth. When you're whipping the camera around it's too much for them.

 

[Joeyro]

I don't want to be mean or anything, but people get motion sickness from 60fps? If anything it makes things smoother and less skipping.

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It takes time for your eyes to get used to the fluidity, it's the same if you go watch 120 fps gameplay of any first person game. If someone has continuous sickness they should probably advice a doctor though.

 

[Gowans]

This is worth a watch from last week, it was hinted to in the presentation

 

[ThirtyFive]

Is the crazy pop in still there? Some update a few weeks after 3.0 made that really annoying.

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I haven't played yet, but the patch notes say it's fixed.

 

[grascher]

For some people, it's too smooth. When you're whipping the camera around it's too much for them.

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reminds me of this

 

[Pottuvoi]

Its part of it, Im not sure if youre actually interested or not but they talk about that in their GDC Talks. Specifically this video, in case anyone is interested.:

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Awesome talk.

They confirmed DFAO for 60fps mode in it?
Missed it while watching.

 

[Lumines]

I think this is wrong. I know a few people who get motion sickness when playing 60fps. Why not keep the option on there?

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I found the opposite to be the case, 30 FPS can make me nauseous after extended periods.

 

[Ada]

Not often you see that line on a console game.

 

[valentine]

Hopefully this becomes the norm in the next generation of consoles

 

[Deleted member 2834]

Lol, good. Fuck 30 FPS. I'm all for choices, but the faster people get used to 60 FPS the better for everyone. 30 FPS is plain self-sabotage.

 

[behOemoth]

Epic made these kind of progress as well while developing Paragon ;(.

 

[Deleted member 34788]

I'm assuming those gfz improvements apply to the BR mode?


If it is, optimising your game to hit 60 fps to begin with, and then optimising it further to claw back those visual cuts they had to do to get 60fps is seriously impressive.

 

[Solid Shake]

That's pretty impressive, especially considering the player count. Good stuff Epic.

 

[Birdo]

Hopefully this becomes the norm in the next generation of consoles

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I kind of think it already is the norm this generation as far as competitive multiplayer games go. The only game this gen I can think of that runs at 30fps is Destiny.

 

[Lukar]

Not sure why they felt it needed to be removed. They could have just made 60FPS / uncapped the default setting, and kept in a 30FPS option for those who might want it for whatever reason.

I mean, good on them for getting to a point where they feel it's unnecessary, but I won't congratulate them for needlessly removing user choice.

 

[ScottyJayMan]

I found the opposite to be the case, 30 FPS can make me nauseous after extended periods.

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Totally. I would imagine for a lot of people, 30fps would make them nauseous. That's why I think having the option for both would be the best option.

 

[Psychotron]

Good. Leave it in the past.

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Kill it if you have to.

 

[ResetGreyWolf]

But what about those who prefer 30 FPS for the "cinematic experience" ???

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Yeah I'm upset there's no 24fps option tbh. Should be industry standard.

 

[ApeEscaper]

For some people, it's too smooth. When you're whipping the camera around it's too much for them.

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You're probably talking about motion blur, 60fps should'nt cause motion sickness in fact it should be less than 30fps due to reduced input latency

 

[reclaimerzzzzz]

Not sure why they felt it needed to be removed. They could have just made 60FPS / uncapped the default setting, and kept in a 30FPS option for those who might want it for whatever reason.

I mean, good on them for getting to a point where they feel it's unnecessary, but I won't congratulate them for needlessly removing user choice.

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Not a programmer, so correct if I'm wrong; maybe it was a way to reduce the number of variables required for optimizations in future patches. I assume they have to make settings for both 30 and 60 fps, sort of like how TLOU: remastered had better shadows in 30fps mode. Maybe this is further exacerbated by the fact that theres the Pro and X.

 

[Deleted member 1589]

I think it's most probably hitches in frame rates that makes one nauseous.

But I am not a doctor. At least that's what I tell people.

 

[Lylo]

These devs are really putting in the work on this game. PUBG needs to take note

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PUBG developers are only interested in taking the notes....

 

[Dictator]

• Removed 30 FPS mode from Xbox One and PS4.
  • In v3.4 we made some significant GPU optimizations which improved visual quality, including resolution in 60 FPS mode, and we now feel there is very little reason to play at 30 FPS. - Developer Comment

Plus this:

• 
  
  
  • Made significant improvements to visual quality on consoles, including resolution improvements and texture sharpness improvements.
    • Improved texture filtering sharpness on PS4 and Xbox One.
    • Increased texture resolution on Xbox One.

https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/v3-4-patch-notes

Pretty interesting. Dark1x

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They cover a lot of the optimisatoin at their GDC panel. It may have technically worse quality in some scenes depnding on the console in question.

 

[HighFive]

This gsme keep on giving! Remote guide missile! Cant wait!

 

[Lukar]

Not a programmer, so correct if I'm wrong; maybe it was a way to reduce the number of variables required for optimizations in future patches. I assume they have to make settings for both 30 and 60 fps, sort of like how TLOU: remastered had better shadows in 30fps mode. Maybe this is further exacerbated by the fact that theres the Pro and X.

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I'm also not a programmer, so I may be talking out of my ass. That said, if they wanted people to play the higher framerate option, they could optimize for that and simply make the 30FPS option a 30FPS cap, nothing more. Again, maybe I'm missing something, but you can do that on PC with no other graphical / visual changes, so I don't really understand why they can't have the option.

 

[tommy7154]

Im just glad the pop in is (apparently) fixed.

 

[impingu1984]

I'm sure someone will dislike this... Something Something Cinematic.

If they can do 60 fps well now with zero trade off the option is pretty redundant. 60 fps is objectively better.

Capping at 30 might be useful if people wanted to lower temps / fan noise... maybe.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

They cover a lot of the optimisatoin at their GDC panel. It may have technically worse quality in some scenes depnding on the console in question.

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60 fps makes it technically better by default. 30 fps is traaaaash.

 

[Dezzy]

I'm also not a programmer, so I may be talking out of my ass. That said, if they wanted people to play the higher framerate option, they could optimize for that and simply make the 30FPS option a 30FPS cap, nothing more. Again, maybe I'm missing something, but you can do that on PC with no other graphical / visual changes, so I don't really understand why they can't have the option.

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A player running 60 has a big advantage over a player running at 30. I'd imagine they want the game to be fair for everyone who tries the game out. In a competitive game like this, more frames per second is always better. Hell I've been playing on PC and I feel like 60 isn't even enough for me.

 

[Merrill]

Can they send some of their team to Bluehole and help out on PUBG Xbox, please?

Truly a team that deserves applauding for their efforts.

 

[Bunkles]

Apparently the iOS version got a graphics bump (on supported devices) as well. Gonna check it out soon.

 

[MosquitoSmasher]

A month ago or so I played it on my X and I loved how crisp it looked. Does it actually run at 60fps looking like that now? :O

 

[Lukar]

A player running 60 has a big advantage over a player running at 30. I'd imagine they want the game to be fair for everyone who tries the game out. In a competitive game like this, more frames per second is always better. Hell I've been playing on PC and I feel like 60 isn't even enough for me.

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For sure. That's why I suggested the 30FPS cap be a non-default option. Keyboard and mouse are also generally seen as more advantageous than a controller on PC, but it's still nice to give players more options for whatever they're more comfortable with.

 

[D65]

I think this is wrong. I know a few people who get motion sickness when playing 60fps. Why not keep the option on there?

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Lol