Frozen 2 Won't Give Elsa a Love Interest
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To be honest I don't even know why Disney is taking this route with not giving her a romantic interest when we all know she's pregnant with spider-man's baby
Pretty much what I expected sadly. They''ll queer-code 'til the cows come home but never actually go there in a film like this.
edit: Everyone saying that this is good because not every female character needs a love interest can't be serious, right? This is happening because Disney doesn't want bad publicity by making her queer or not, it has nothing to do with "the story that we wanted to tell."
edit: Everyone saying that this is good because not every female character needs a love interest can't be serious, right? This is happening because Disney doesn't want bad publicity by making her queer or not, it has nothing to do with "the story that we wanted to tell."
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Good, and the writer's motivations seem good to me.
Women characters don't need to be defined by a love interest.
Women characters don't need to be defined by a love interest.
Wtf is this? Her love interest doesn't have to be a guy and she seems to be the protagonist of the movie so a love interest wouldn't invalidate that.
Disney doesn't have to write something just because there is a massive fan outpouring for it to happen. How do you know Disney ever had formal plans to make Elsa queer?
You are making assumptions they backed away from doing something and calling them "cowards" for it...which is weird?
Yeah, instead Disney don't put gay characters in their movies because they listen to China
What...?
I said that she doesn't need a love interest and that the writer's motivations seem good to me:
Sorry, what's your objection to this? Is she required to have a love interest for you or is something else unclear?
At what point in either of my posts did I mention male characters? I think you're inserting words that aren't present.
Elsa is kinda like a surprise character isn't she? I get the sense that in Frozen, Anna was supposed to be the main, beloved character, but Elsa has eclipsed her in popularity ten times over.
I'm not talking about your post but what Disney say. It's okay if they don't want give her one but saying "not defined by romantic blah blah" is always used for female characters, never for guys and Disney knew people wanted her to be gay and Elsa is popular with lesbians and they obviously aren't going to do that because of chinabucks. What Disney is doing here is just business.
Not in my house, never really related to her fully.
Mind you I do think Snowman is better than Let it Go
Which is super lame because Anna is the real hero of the story.
Don't see why it's controversial at all. Reinforcing that you don't need a love interest to be a complete and happy person is a good message too.
Ok ... In the future don't quote my post and say "Wtf is this?" when you're actually talking about something else that someone else wrote in the OP.
You agree with the idea, no? But yeah, I shouldn't have quoted
Was that dirty book Kakashi was always reading a Sub Zero/Elsa slash fic?
I think it would have been exceptionally brave of Disney to have given Elsa a female love interest, but the fire that decision would have started is more than they're comfortable handling. That is expected really, but I also understand why some people are disappointed.
While I wish Disney had the balls to have the main character of their biggest franchise be openly gay, I do think it would be strange to give her a relationship given the point of the first movie.
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Thank God. I'm so sick of agenda.
I actually kind of feel bad for Elsa as a character. Disney was so afraid to let her be the villain that they rewrote her entire arc like six or seven times until there was almost nothing left.
As much as I want real queer representation in one of these Disney Princess movies, I'm a little relieved they aren't taking it that far with Elsa, because I don't actually like Elsa very much. I don't figure we'll get two queer princesses, so maybe just let Elsa be one without a love interest.
Why did people feel like she needed to be in a relationship? Why couldn't she just be a badass queen without some other forced validation. Like in Brave, Merida didn't need to be married and it was dope.
As expected, it's clear that she was never written with any romantic interest in mind and I feel like that kind of subplot wouldn't fit with her established personality. Her disinterest in romance is a logical side effect of her self-imposed exile and it helps her serve as a narrative foil to Anna's interests.
I mean, they have. Merida, Elsa, and Moana don't have love interests.
I don't want them all to be that way, because romance is something I want out of these as much as musical numbers.
I'm fine if they want to do one once in a while with no love interest, but it's starting to become the norm.
Since they've been trying to be a little more feminist with these movies, they've done away with love interests, and it starts to look like they think falling in love is somehow counter to portraying someone as a strong, independent woman. I'm not on board with that line of thinking.
Yea that starts getting into that stereotypical "strong independent woman that don't need a man" things. Romance can be done in a way that just isn't girl falls in love with savior prince.
The fact that they seem to think 'having a romance for characters' = 'defining female characters by their romance' is a problem with their own worldview, biases, and writing ability. That's a really harmful and problematic view to have, it suggests having a relationship (something that nearly every human being desires) means giving up your own identity...which is just not true.
Maybe they'll actually get to touch... arms!!
Remember when some on here were trying to praise Marvel for having a gay character in Endgame? What was his name, again? Oh, right. They didn't give him a name. He was literally just, "Grieving Man."
Fuck, might as well have cut right to the point and referred to him as "Gay Trope Man."
Cowards
Disney executives make millions for a reason, they have to sell their products in China and other countries.
What was the problem with that?
I thought that was a good move towards normalizing queer relationships. It's just as important to toss things like that off like they aren't even a thing as it is to have representation where it's in your face.
And yeah, we haven't had the in-your-face representation yet, and we need it, but I think they absolutely deserve credit for that scene in Endgame.
