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gamers = people who play games. same thing
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Exactly, this is a relevant point that some ERA posters don't seem to realize/understand.
I guarantee you no one in my job's company office has ever heard of Gamergate, except for the one IT person. I work for a real-estate company and most of the employees are age 40+ and not techie types.
I also guarantee you my parents and their friends of that generation have never heard of Gamergate. They are aged 65+ and have zero interest in video games.
If someone actually thinks that "everyone" has heard of Gamergate, then quite frankly you must be in a bubble with only techie young-generation people who read about video games on the internet.
If I were to try to explain the Gamergate story to my parents or old-age work colleagues, they would either laugh or be completely puzzled at how silly it is. I can actually picture their reactions in my head, they would think it's a stupid story.
Do more to end what's normalized in gaming culture instead of berating those who're off put by it and don't want to define their identity as "I play video games."
Sorry, but I'm not falling for that. I've been a gamer since long before "gamer" became a slur. I'm not letting you, or the people you hate, decide what that word means.
I don't know what you're trying to do here. But it looks like you're trying to get me to say what you want me to say, whatever that is. Ease up with the attitude. I just disagree with you about a word. I didn't kill your cat. I happen to love cats.
You realize that the normalization of sexism and racism in the community didn't start with gamergate yes? Gonna repeat myself
It starts with acknowledging that there's a problem, which you're very blatantly trying to avoid doing.
I mean I've never called myself a gamer but I do love games and certain games I can talk about forever... It's the same way I don't think I'm a cenefile or whatever but I do watch alot of movies and can have long conversations about them.
The issue is that if you even talk about liking games to like an actual 'gamer' they ask what's the greatest of all time and then wanna get super detailed aboout a game that came out 10 years and then about how chicks suck. But this might just be my experience. Like I play alotta games but I could never goto like a gamer centric event and talk to 'gamers' it's never been a plesant experience.
The issue is that if you even talk about liking games to like an actual 'gamer' they ask what's the greatest of all time and then wanna get super detailed aboout a game that came out 10 years and then about how chicks suck. But this might just be my experience. Like I play alotta games but I could never goto like a gamer centric event and talk to 'gamers' it's never been a plesant experience.
It's self-indulgent garbage.
You can see it even in the smug tone of some posts here: "Oh, sure, I play games and I spend most of my free time posting on a gaming forum, but let's make very clear I'm not like those losers over there. I'm a strong independent thinker who doesn't like reductive labels".
As if anyone else was going around screaming "Videogames are all I care in my life" to the four winds, instead.
I'm saying I've never encountered people to be so disgusted by the term "gamer" anywhere else but here.
Don't assume you know anything about what I do or don't do. It's arrogant and ignorant.
Oh boo hoo. It's not a damn subculture, it's just something you do. If you don't like it, at least stop supporting mockery of kids who have know idea about why you think the word is bad. They just fucking love video games. I'm not kidding, I've seen kids (high school employee here) start to use gamer as a fucking slur, and that's not cool. So fucking stop it. Your self righteousness is starting to get people hurt.
i've encountered plenty of shitty people identifying as gamers saying disgusting things almost everywhere on the internet - so i guess it adds up
Actions speak louder than words and as I said, you're doing a great job at not addressing any of the issues. See the following:
I literally just gave you several receipts on why, and the average "gamer" is a grown ass man.
Maybe gaming shouldn't have enabled gamergate.
Maybe people shouldn't insist that I must be a gamer.
Maybe gaming should actually stand receptive to social criticism.
Gamers drove my favorite video game personality from the industry because she was a woman
Maybe gaming should actually stop being a toxic culture
Yep, have noticed that when some people do bad things, there's always some other enlightened trotting out "gamers are worst".
Bolsters the internet cred, it does.
Bolsters the internet cred, it does.
People have been mocking the self-identified "gamer" archetype for ages.
Hard to believe this comic is ten years old already.
What's wrong about talking about the greatest games of all time and getting into a detailed discussion about games from the past?
As for "chicks suck", I've never heard that myself lol. I don't really go to gaming events outside my house though
Yrah, I'm not gonna bother with you unless you do some flicking on thatholier than thou attitud you've got going on here. Instead of just assuming that you're smarter and know better than everyone around you, you could for a second consider to stop treating people like children.
I can't do much but roll my eyes most of the time, but sometimes I just can't shut up. And this agressive, violent attitude as well. Why? I don't see anything wrong with a word used to describe one of my hobbies and I'm treated like I'm an evil, stupid person.
Yeah, someone with internet access and qualified email address
Even harder to believe people give that awkward gag credit for allegedly representing common behavior.
Gamers rise up.
The use case for "gamer" has changed. People who play games don't harrass developers/publishers, arent entitled brats, and don't regularly dip into bigotry or normalize hate speech as moments "heated gaming moments" that "Helped you through a hard time."
"Gamer" is now a specific subculture.
The use case for "gamer" has changed. People who play games don't harrass developers/publishers, arent entitled brats, and don't regularly dip into bigotry or normalize hate speech as moments "heated gaming moments" that "Helped you through a hard time."
"Gamer" is now a specific subculture.
There's nothing wrong with it for the people that want to do it. But I don't care I just like playing videogames.
Your question just proves my point. If I like videogames but I don't self identify and want to engage you'll just say I'm not a real gamer anyway and I won't care!
Poster above is right. Gamer is a subculture of games just like cenephiles etc.
So you gonna acknowledge these receipts or...? I'll take that as a no.
*Refuses to acknowledge the problems with gamer culture while saying this*
Congrats on being part of the problem with "gamers." Because acknowledging the problems with the culture sure is prevalent.
Can we stop using gamers as a word to describe low lifes? Call them what they are instead, sexist or whatever else.
I play games and I'm not a "gamer". Playing games is just one of many things I do, it doesn't define me.
Why would I associate with this? As a black male my train of thought isn't even allowed to be this agressive and generally people that call themselves gamers hate me for the color of my skin.
I'm talking about kids, people, who don't know why you dislike it. You can ignore them, but there's plenty of them out there.
Gaming is a hobby. Being a gamer mans you game as a hobby. All this shit you list up? It's got nothing to do with being a gamer. It's all about being a shitty person.
I have to go to work, so I'll have to take a break from this silly debate.
So you gonna acknowledge these receipts or...? I'll take that as a no.
*Refuses to acknowledge the problems with gamer culture while saying this*
Congrats on being part of the problem with "gamers." Because acknowledging the problems with the culture sure is prevalent.
It's like a perfect encapsulation.
"I don't give a shit about what you have to say, now how come you don't want to self identify with me"
You're still dodging the problems fam.
Exactly. Arguably, a lack of self awareness is a very common trait amongst people who identity as gamers.
Because too many people on this site get too much up their asses about the gamer label.
God I'd want to vomit if I met someone in real life said "No I'm a gaming enthusiast." You wouldn't want to hang out around someone like that. Just accept being called a gamer and move on with life it doesn't actually even fucking matter.
If someone from work asks me if I'm a gamer, and they have, I just say yes and move on because if the average person asks you if you're a gamer that's typically a lead in for them because they want to ask you about a video games or curious if you play video games.
God I'd want to vomit if I met someone in real life said "No I'm a gaming enthusiast." You wouldn't want to hang out around someone like that. Just accept being called a gamer and move on with life it doesn't actually even fucking matter.
If someone from work asks me if I'm a gamer, and they have, I just say yes and move on because if the average person asks you if you're a gamer that's typically a lead in for them because they want to ask you about a video games or curious if you play video games.
So you gonna acknowledge these receipts or...? I'll take that as a no.
*Refuses to acknowledge the problems with gamer culture while saying this*
Congrats on being part of the problem with "gamers." Because acknowledging the problems with the culture sure is prevalent.
Nice try.
Splitting hairs.
Words have different contexts. If your grandma asks if you're a gamer, it probably just means she's trying out some hip new lingo and is asking if you play video games. If you're just talking with the grandmas of the world, yeah you're probably better off just letting it go. But when it comes to the actual discussion within the community, well, it's easy to see why people might quibble.
Everyone that's trying to act like it doesn't have some negative connotations (divorced of GG type stuff) knows what it means when someone says they for instance, don't like gamer marketing or gamer products. Dewritoes, RGB lights, mice that look like transformers, etc. It, at it's best, assumes a level of devotion, bad taste and immaturity in the term.
It's like the term jock. Now, as a general term, it just basically means athlete, or someone interested in athletics. But the behavior of the people that fit that term, whether in real life or in media was so awful that the term has also been loaded to mean things like being dumb, or being a bully, and just generally being an asshole. So many people still do the whole jock things these days, but nobody would use it to describe themselves. Now, I don't think jock was ever that widely used to self describe in the first place, so maybe not a perfect example.
Words have different contexts. If your grandma asks if you're a gamer, it probably just means she's trying out some hip new lingo and is asking if you play video games. If you're just talking with the grandmas of the world, yeah you're probably better off just letting it go. But when it comes to the actual discussion within the community, well, it's easy to see why people might quibble.
Everyone that's trying to act like it doesn't have some negative connotations (divorced of GG type stuff) knows what it means when someone says they for instance, don't like gamer marketing or gamer products. Dewritoes, RGB lights, mice that look like transformers, etc. It, at it's best, assumes a level of devotion, bad taste and immaturity in the term.
It's like the term jock. Now, as a general term, it just basically means athlete, or someone interested in athletics. But the behavior of the people that fit that term, whether in real life or in media was so awful that the term has also been loaded to mean things like being dumb, or being a bully, and just generally being an asshole. So many people still do the whole jock things these days, but nobody would use it to describe themselves. Now, I don't think jock was ever that widely used to self describe in the first place, so maybe not a perfect example.
I never said that whatsoever. I just asked you a question.
If I met you in real life and you tell me you don't like talking about games, then I would say cool no problem. It's not like I'm going to force you to talk about games
weird how there's this large contingent of people who "game as a hobby" who are also shitty people in relation to that hobby. what if there was a word to describe them
Gaming community is the only thing that 8s directly relevant when discussing why and how gamergate lead to folks distancing themselves from the gamer term
"Are you willing to acknowledge why people have an issue with this culture that has many easily identifiable issues."
"Nice try."
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