Mass Effect 2. I liked the first game and I really wanted to like the second game. I loved the world and characters, but the gameplay was so shit to me that I just couldnt finish it.
Games where the lore is more interesting for you than the gameplay?
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Order 1886, it's the main reason I want a sequel, would love to get more from that story, I think you could do so much with that story and the fact that each soldier loves for hundreds of years gives you so much to play with for awesome set pieces.
Also I recently played Call of Cthulhu by Cyanide games and while the game wasn't great the story was interesting enough to string me along, while I've heard of Cthulhu before and seen it in media like South Park I never really knew anything about it besides giant squid god and it was interesting.
Also I recently played Call of Cthulhu by Cyanide games and while the game wasn't great the story was interesting enough to string me along, while I've heard of Cthulhu before and seen it in media like South Park I never really knew anything about it besides giant squid god and it was interesting.
Halo.
The actual gameplay is just above average, but the lore has always been fantastic.
Ive played all the mainline ones up until now 4 (and reach).
Story ended up a bit lame in 4 with the whole promethean thing.
The actual gameplay is just above average, but the lore has always been fantastic.
Ive played all the mainline ones up until now 4 (and reach).
Story ended up a bit lame in 4 with the whole promethean thing.
Kirby. I don't play a lot of them but I've seen threads here talking about it. Apparently it is dark
The right one.
Bloodborne is my pick. I loved the lore of the game, but playing it was garbage.
Any and all reason to take this post seriously went out the door right here.
First of all, it's an opinion. As such, it's no more wrong than the various other unpopular opinions in this thread. In my experience in this game, I had tons of situations where my character's animation and hitbox was rather wonky. I lured enemies into killing themselves in pits a billion times. While some areas were well-designed, others felt like fairly generic corridors with the occasional pathway. The game gets various things right, otherwise I wouldn't have played it more than 30 minutes. But I walked away disappointed that despite all the praise, the game has a series of very jarring problems that made it difficult, for me, to properly enjoy it. And I don't think I'm wrong in my experience that most of the talk about Dark Souls is in the difficulty and the crazy lore, while the actual gameplay was only truly praised from Bloodborne onwards as far as From games go.
I appreciate many things about the game. Gameplay, ultimately, was not one of them. And it's not even a matter of hating the formula as I enjoyed The Surge and other soulslikes to an extent.
Dark Souls is what came to mind for me when I read the title, but Destiny I also have to agree with.
I know there were some other games that fell into this category for me, too, but I can't think of them at the moment.
Probably also Anthem. lol
Not because the lore is particularly amazing, but because the gameplay quality bar is so low.
I know there were some other games that fell into this category for me, too, but I can't think of them at the moment.
Probably also Anthem. lol
Not because the lore is particularly amazing, but because the gameplay quality bar is so low.
Dark Souls and such: I don't need hard games in my life, I already got a job.
Metal Gear Solid: love the silly lore, hate stealth games.
Any Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Dead Space: I can't handle being scared in games, but god damn do I love the stories of those 3 franchises. Also RIP Dead Space :(
Metal Gear Solid: love the silly lore, hate stealth games.
Any Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Dead Space: I can't handle being scared in games, but god damn do I love the stories of those 3 franchises. Also RIP Dead Space :(
Surprised only one post about FNAF. Great lore and some I still can't quite wrap my head around. That said I have no desire to actually play them.
And you claiming that the game has bad hitboxes, an aspect that is frequently praised, to the point of even having articles written about it, shows that there is no reason to take your opinion seriously. That, or you don't actually know/understand what hitboxes are. The theme of an area or the enemies walking into pits and dying has nothing to do with the quality of the games hitboxes and hit registrations.
And I don't know where you get that the gameplay wasn't/isn't praised. The praising of the gameplay was what got me to try the original Dark Souls in the first place. Hell, to praise the difficulty is to praise the gameplay itself, so you're already contradicting yourself.
And to act like people play the Souls series only for the lore is also laughable.
You probably misunderstood my post or I didn't express myself correctly. I encountered multiple istances of wonky animations and odd hitboxes. The AI issue is not related to hitboxes, but it was pretty damn stupid at times. I never claimed everybody plays the game for the lore, but my experience of hearing from the game (on Era and elsewhere) was mainly praises for the lore and the difficulty, as opposed to something like Devil May Cry 5 or Vanquish (to mention two other third person games, even if wildly different) which are usually talked about because of their ridiculously good gameplay. I didn't want to cause a controversy or to offend anyone's tastes, that is my experience with the game despite having spent a decent amount of hours on it (it was on the X360 which doesn't have an hour counter for this stuff, but it's definitely in the double-digits).
What I meant is that I was immediately intrigued by the lore and the game's visual identity (even if the graphics were not that good), so it's a shame the gameplay felt so hit and miss for me. Given how people praise the game it's clearly a "me, not you" situation. Clearly I missed something, or clearly the game isn't made for me. It's okay, a lot of fan favourite games are not my cup of tea. But I don't get why my post was so damn controversial when there's mentions of games like Halo, Metal Gear Solid or Resident Evil in this thread as well. The only difference is that I explained what I personally found weak about the game instead of dropping a name and leaving.
But it takes a special kind of decisionmaking to put the lore outside of the actual game.
I came to say this. Although I've definitely enjoyed my time with the game (spent a good month or so playing it) I find a lot more enjoyment out of their short comics/stories/animations than I do out of playing the game nowadays. Aside from the occasional event I come back for - I would much rather just digest an entire comic series, series or movie.
For me, it is Resident Evil. Not that the gameplay is bad but I can't do horror games (or even jump scare stuff) but I love its batshit insane storyline.
Why playing if you can have the lore by an other medium? Can you just read a book?
Danganronpa. I actively hate the gameplay, but I love the story.
To a lesser extent, I feel the same way about the Zero Escape games. To me, the escape rooms are just an obstacle between me and the next story bit.
Some VNs have awful mechanics attached to good stories. The original Steins Gate has a really dumb phone reply system in place of normal dialogue choices, but I love the story and characters.
As cheesy as they can be, I do also like the lore of some fighting games, even though I don't really enjoy playing them anymore. I like reading up about character backgrounds and stories of games like Street Fighter and Blazblue.
To a lesser extent, I feel the same way about the Zero Escape games. To me, the escape rooms are just an obstacle between me and the next story bit.
Some VNs have awful mechanics attached to good stories. The original Steins Gate has a really dumb phone reply system in place of normal dialogue choices, but I love the story and characters.
As cheesy as they can be, I do also like the lore of some fighting games, even though I don't really enjoy playing them anymore. I like reading up about character backgrounds and stories of games like Street Fighter and Blazblue.
Soul Sacrifice, as mentioned.
World of Warcraft, since I just play it now to see the story end.
The Witcher, love the world and heavily dislike the games.
World of Warcraft, since I just play it now to see the story end.
The Witcher, love the world and heavily dislike the games.
I loathe MMOs and stay far, far away from them, but Final Fantasy XIV has some genuinely fascinating lore.
It's a bad one, the gameplay and level design of DS are highly praised for a reason. But I want to leave it at that as to not derail the tread.
Falcom's Trails/Kiseki franchise of JRPG's. Graphics are generally dated for the time they came out, gameplay is fairly classic turn-based JRPG combat with some FF7-like Materia and FFX-like turn management systems thrown in. It's also a series of (currently) 9 full-blown JRPG's who all follow up on one another, foreshadow stuff in one another, have plenty of characters from one story arc appear in another (sometimes even random NPC's) and have an overarching meta-plot that's still on-going after nearly two decades.
Kiseki is basically Lore; the franchise.
Kiseki is basically Lore; the franchise.
Deadly Premonition is the definition of this
The gameplay ranges from mediocre to barely sufferable - but the world, characters, mystery and themes are so on in point it's somehow compelling as fuck
The gameplay ranges from mediocre to barely sufferable - but the world, characters, mystery and themes are so on in point it's somehow compelling as fuck
Very good example. The player-driven political machinations that took place in that game during its prime are legendary
I honestly don't get why people hate the combat in Witcher 3 so much. For me it's pretty solid, mixing sword play with signs is dope as hell. Theres one skill in the melee tree that makes Geralt literally dance with the sword. I liked it a lot.
Ar nosurge was this for me.
It's really more of a visual novel in 3D for all intents and purposes, as the battles on normal difficulty is extremely easy (although you get a decent challenge on the hard difficulty), "dungeons" are never composed of a huge amount of screens either.
But I loved the lore & character building and especially how it connected back to
It's really more of a visual novel in 3D for all intents and purposes, as the battles on normal difficulty is extremely easy (although you get a decent challenge on the hard difficulty), "dungeons" are never composed of a huge amount of screens either.
But I loved the lore & character building and especially how it connected back to
Ar tonelico.
Perhaps because you still enjoy the gameplay. Most games lore isn't told to you, but require you to delve deeper. I am not being hyperbolic at all when I say, that for me, Destiny's lore is some of the best out there. Do I agree with the decision to not have the Grimoire in game? No. I do however enjoy the stories that are told in there. Dredgen Yor, the Book of Sorrows, the Great Collapse, Iron Lords, Siva, Eris Morn and her Fireteam. All are great stories that Bungie expanded on in a way that most developers don't.
Brigador gameplay is quite good, but the lore is something else. There's a lot about Brigador that evokes the first golden age of PC gaming, and nothing more so than the page after page of lore entries describing the people, history, politics, and giant stompy robots of Solo Nobre. Paging through the lore entries evokes memories of sitting on the sofa reading the Fallout 2 manual, which was half game mechanics descriptions, half recipes for cooking irradiated gecko.
Or a terrible kind of release schedule forced on you by Activision which prevented you from doing what you actually wanted to do.
There would be a ton of games I prefer watching a walkthough of instead of playing. I'm actually doing it a lot for several reasons.
A big example for me would be Devil May Cry. I can manage, but the gameplay is just not my genre. Nevertheless I'm unhealthy obsessed with the twins.
A big example for me would be Devil May Cry. I can manage, but the gameplay is just not my genre. Nevertheless I'm unhealthy obsessed with the twins.
They also fired the guy in charge and redid the whole story at one point, iirc. So the blame is with Bungie to an extent.
That's a really curious answer because DMC has like the thinnest of lores that changes as the games demand it from moment to moment but excels at gameplay. But what little lore we have is pretty good at least, for the most part.
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Bloodborne. I don't like playing these games, by and large, except when I can use a trainer to just explore the world on my own. But since BB is only on PS4, I feel like I kinda missed out.
I love the lore and the art and the general design of everything, but I just don't enjoy playing.
I love the lore and the art and the general design of everything, but I just don't enjoy playing.
Dragon Age has fantastic lore. I could print out the codex and read it like a novel.
The mage vs Templar struggle is fascinating, the relationship between the Templars and the chantry, the debate about whether mage circles are important to protect the world or are instead just fancy prisons, the nature of gods and the golden/black city, the qunari with their in some ways progressive but other ways totalitarian ideology, etc.
The mage vs Templar struggle is fascinating, the relationship between the Templars and the chantry, the debate about whether mage circles are important to protect the world or are instead just fancy prisons, the nature of gods and the golden/black city, the qunari with their in some ways progressive but other ways totalitarian ideology, etc.
IIRC that was done specifically at the behest of Activision, who didn't like how the story turned out, which was why it was so disjointed. I might be remembering wrong, but the release schedule and the higher-ups had a larger part to play then you are giving them credit for.
