This right here
It was one of the best co-op experiences i've had, but I just leave it in the past now.
Games you love but sometimes feel kind of racist
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It was one of the best co-op experiences i've had, but I just leave it in the past now.
SMT: Nocturne has sambo looking monsters. There's a cutscene with them early at the hospital and a protagonist says they don't understand the monsters' "nappy language".
most of the replies I'm seeing in here have almost nothing to do with racism. A lot of you guys seem confused on what racism actually is.
Right on, you mean the environments or the guards etc? It did seem quite cartoony
My dude. I'm not even asking for baby's first racism in games--all I'm saying is that aspect of the game does not age well for me. The trope of minority groups getting obliterated as a narrative technique is awfully common in games (and pop culture) and at this point I doubt that the Al-Bhed will meet a positive resolution at the end of the game. I believe that this plot point, while probably well-intended, is now quite ineffective and outdated. So I'm saying it's only harmful, not actually racist.
How is SF II considered racist, but Mario not? Both are stereotypes and not necessarily a bad one. Both aren't racist imo.
There was an interesting interview with the voice actor for Deus Ex HR's Letitia where she defended her performance as being as authentic as possible. She didn't criticize the game much, but clearly understood the criticism due to being a working actress of color. Her perspective has some unexpected nuance. Would link to it but I'm on a slow mobile device.
Nope, none of that makes up for the dumb, stereotypical slang talk and overall impression as a buffoon.
Not racist, more homophobic, but the Faggio line of scooters and the Bati 801 sports bike come to my mind in regards to the GTA series as especially tonedeaf in todays cultural climate.
The second one even more so than the first one makes me wonder how it did even found its way into the released version of their respective games, taking into consideration what it references - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batty_boy
The second one even more so than the first one makes me wonder how it did even found its way into the released version of their respective games, taking into consideration what it references - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batty_boy
Unlike Cloud, he had a more altruistic vision of what he wanted for the planet throughout the entire game, furthered by how many affection points you get if you tell a woman she's "full of it" for thinking Mako is the future.
Lol imagine my post to scroll up and see yours lol....
Other people have said it, but Resident Evil 5. I adore Resident Evil as a franchise, and 5 is one of the better ones. But boy whenever I want to play co-op with a friend I have to always preface it with "well... this game is pretty racist, so just be aware of that." It always makes for an awkward time for a game that's meant to be primarily played in co-op.
Mario
...me trying to imagine how this is racist is more fucking racist than anything in this thread
Detroit is not racist... But, it is an extremely thin allegory about race ... the problem is that those portions of the game present the "race" issues in such a cringe-worthy way.
Like the android march scene
Came to post this. It actually wasn't jarring at the time I played it at launch. Which says alot about the time. I only noticed it on later play-throughs now that I'm older.
Definitely Resident Evil 5 for me. From a gameplay design perspective, I think it's just as good as RE4 assuming that you're fortunate enough to have a relatively close friend to play with -- a partner that works well with you AND is able to play consistently. As we all know, the AI partner completely pales in comparison, even after vast improvements have been made to its AI in subsequent rereleases of the game.
But yeah, that game has some pretty overt racism going on in its context and it's awful. I have a hard time returning to it, despite having a really great time playing with one of my best friends and former roommate at the time of its release. It's a damn fun game with a terrible context.
I'm increasingly starting to feel similarly about The Division, particularly the early stages of that game. Another one I really still enjoy playing with friends, but the more I actually do think about what that game is representing within its context, the stronger my notion of having fun within it starts to be challenged. Playing as a member of a violently aggressive sleeper paramilitary is strike one, and then pitting them against a bunch of groups that seem like analogues to real-world groups that struggle within society (such as the overtly racist Black Lives Matter analogue) without any question makes the kinda sappier marketing and opening scene of the agency's activation feel like kinda gross propaganda -- the agency itself has almost no real notion of restoring civility as it would imply, only of acting in response to aggression with dominant aggression. I'm not saying The Division needs to be a pacifist force, as I do think the context might call for some level of violence, but you never seem to participate or even hear about any effort to restore peace by any means other than completely indiscriminantly destroying factions that also seem to have zero interest in participating in the conflict with anything more than curly-moustache levels of anger and violence. The Division sucks, and the way the opposing forces are written and handled are shitty, too -- for the most part, they're both easily-digestible absolutes of violence contextualized by weak real-world influences that kinda disservices the real-world people that the context is pulled from (like the aforementioned Black Lives Matter) because it's digested down to "just kill them because they've responded to this crisis with violence, easy solution." Gross.
But yeah, that game has some pretty overt racism going on in its context and it's awful. I have a hard time returning to it, despite having a really great time playing with one of my best friends and former roommate at the time of its release. It's a damn fun game with a terrible context.
I'm increasingly starting to feel similarly about The Division, particularly the early stages of that game. Another one I really still enjoy playing with friends, but the more I actually do think about what that game is representing within its context, the stronger my notion of having fun within it starts to be challenged. Playing as a member of a violently aggressive sleeper paramilitary is strike one, and then pitting them against a bunch of groups that seem like analogues to real-world groups that struggle within society (such as the overtly racist Black Lives Matter analogue) without any question makes the kinda sappier marketing and opening scene of the agency's activation feel like kinda gross propaganda -- the agency itself has almost no real notion of restoring civility as it would imply, only of acting in response to aggression with dominant aggression. I'm not saying The Division needs to be a pacifist force, as I do think the context might call for some level of violence, but you never seem to participate or even hear about any effort to restore peace by any means other than completely indiscriminantly destroying factions that also seem to have zero interest in participating in the conflict with anything more than curly-moustache levels of anger and violence. The Division sucks, and the way the opposing forces are written and handled are shitty, too -- for the most part, they're both easily-digestible absolutes of violence contextualized by weak real-world influences that kinda disservices the real-world people that the context is pulled from (like the aforementioned Black Lives Matter) because it's digested down to "just kill them because they've responded to this crisis with violence, easy solution." Gross.
Racist? No, I wouldn't say it's that. More just that it maybe squanders it's allegory of slavery and has a muddled message. The story is really pretty entertaining though. I was definitely gripping my seat at times.
Came in this thread to post this. I love the series, but damn if I don't bring it up that the only characters that are dark-skinned (aside from Rai) are villains and the one character who's presented villainously but then becomes good (Diz) goes immediately from black to aryan white immediately upon make his heel-face turn. I get that the point was to be a 'twist' since if he was blue-eyed and blonde, you'd put together that he was Ansem immediately, but boy if it's not a lil sketchy.
It's not racist. It's just a poor story about racial history.
Omg yes it was so funny to see how Capcom thought Spain lived in the middle ages or something haha.
This. Detroit isn't racist. It just tells a story about racism in such a ham-fisted way that feels unintentionally exploitative. It earns absolutely none of its 'meaningful' references.
Surprised no one has mentioned Duke Nukem yet, though I guess it's more misogynistic than racist. I loved that game as a kid, but it is a game that is best left in the past.
Play through ESO's Summerset expansion.
God damn, Altmer are racist as fuck.
Also, the opening quest dealing with recently arrived outsiders being caged and sacrificed is a bit unintentionally on the nose.
God damn, Altmer are racist as fuck.
Also, the opening quest dealing with recently arrived outsiders being caged and sacrificed is a bit unintentionally on the nose.
I'm Italian and love Mario and use that voice if I'm dressed as him (as I have for Halloween).
Letitia in Deus Ex: HR was rough, but the original game was terrible. Every non-American character had the worst excuses for foreign accents. I'm sure Wan Chai Market had some weirdly race-coded stuff, but it's been a while.
Co-op doesn't fix the issues with RE5's pacing and bosses. It's nowhere near as good as RE4.
what bad italian stereotypes?
all the bad ones i know aren't really present in mario.
It's a walking Italian Stereotype....(in name only, the word Goombah is a Derogatory term for an Italian)
I feel like poor Ivan and Jerry tend to get the short end of the stick more.
You think you're fighting middle eastern terrorists but SUPRISE! it's actually a Russian.
This is always an interesting, when people outside of a particular group get offended on how that group is portrayed. For example, couple years ago, Warner Brothers removed all Speedy Gonzales cartoons from airing. Not because of actual complaints from Mexicans or Mexican Americans, but from other people who felt the character could be seen as racist. Shortly thereafter, a Mexican American rights group had to publicly say they liked the character and wanted him to return before WB brought him back.
WTAF! Is this real?That flash game was ancient but I had no idea someone would dare to upload it to Google Store and become approved before getting removed!
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