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Gears 5 will not be UWP on the Windows Store but Win32
- Thread starter Theorry
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FYI, the Steam store page has listed Windows 7 as the minimum OS for a while. I'd imagine that's related assuming it's not an error.
For comparison, the recent AOE definitive edition doesn't list it at all, and is actually incompatible with the OS.
For comparison, the recent AOE definitive edition doesn't list it at all, and is actually incompatible with the OS.
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Holy shit.
Microsoft dropping the UWP requirement and allowing Win32 games was one thing, but actually releasing their big AAA titles as Win32 themselves?
Awesome, awesome news. May UWP die an ignoble death.
Microsoft dropping the UWP requirement and allowing Win32 games was one thing, but actually releasing their big AAA titles as Win32 themselves?
Awesome, awesome news. May UWP die an ignoble death.
The Tech Test was still completely locked down so you couldn't do anything with the files, not sure if it was Win32 though (I remember seeing posts on Reddit about how it was, so maybe?). Given the push for fair and competitive play, hopefully them releasing the game as they are means they're ready and able to try and tackle all the various cheats that may pop up.
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See when people ask like "WhAt HaS PhIL eVen DoNE" like, this. This kind of stuff. There are so so so many small but impactful changes he's done. I can never think of them off the top of my head, but like, here then, this right here. Quite soon after saying Win32 apps would be allowed on the windows store he goes ahead and has a first party game be Win32. Any, ANY set of Xbox big wigs would never have done that. idk who first talked to whom about Win32 for Gears 5, whether it was Rod, Phil, Satya, whoever, but like, a decision of that magnitude absolutely goes through him, and the fact that he was either instrumental in that, or simply made sure it got allowed, allowing for consumer friendly practices as opposed to mercilessly pushing their new Thing, is like, it's incredible.
The PC efforts are somewhat slow, but honestly, for working with a company the size of Microsoft, he's made so many solid choices at a surprisingly decent rate, and what's even better, they seem to be very foundational, setting the stage for what comes next.
I know this seems crazy to rant about just being "Win32" but this is seriously so awesome. Never, ever, ever, ever in a million years I would have expected Microsoft to just spin around like this. It's incredible.
The PC efforts are somewhat slow, but honestly, for working with a company the size of Microsoft, he's made so many solid choices at a surprisingly decent rate, and what's even better, they seem to be very foundational, setting the stage for what comes next.
I know this seems crazy to rant about just being "Win32" but this is seriously so awesome. Never, ever, ever, ever in a million years I would have expected Microsoft to just spin around like this. It's incredible.
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Yes. But we knew that already. :)
Xbox, windows store, steam are all crossplay. Only Xbox users have a option if they want to opt out for versus ranked.
Holy crap nice. Thank you.
I played Gears 5 at Gamescom and now I'm really hyped for it.
Also this gives me hope for the Halo titles going to PC
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Man what I'd give to see Microsoft go back and make every Forza Horizon on PC with Win32, including changing 3 and 4. Every UWP game has just been so wonky performance wise regardless of build for me.
I really hope they figure out a way to like, change all their games to be Win32 while preserving saves if possible somehow.
I really hope they figure out a way to like, change all their games to be Win32 while preserving saves if possible somehow.
Remember the bunch of posters writing endless paragraphs on how UWP is actually benificial to consumers?
They were wrong.
Good thing Microsoft is in a position where they realized that as well.
They were wrong.
Good thing Microsoft is in a position where they realized that as well.
Universal Windows Platform. It is a new way of building apps in Windows 10. Microsoft wanted people to exclusively build apps that way going forward, but with so many apps being Win32 (and developers having no interest in rebuilding their apps) Microsoft relented to allowing Win32 apps being used on the store.
Not that much to be honest. I think the main benefit touted was that an app built on UWP would run on Windows 10 and Xbox.
The main benefit was frankly for Microsoft; a curated Windows Store of UWP apps. An app built on UWP wouldn't run on Steam/EGS/anywhere else, so extreme vendor lock-in.
My wish came true!
This is excellent news and I hope that all MS exclusives receive the same treatment, going forward.
This is excellent news and I hope that all MS exclusives receive the same treatment, going forward.
Actually, MS had zero obstacles in the way of other storefronts carrying UWP apps. Nobody else wanted it, though.
UWP was supposed to be a platform to allow apps to run on everything in the MS ecosystem. Phones, tablets, Xbox, PC. Unfortunately, it did have its limitations, and with the death of MS mobile OS plans and the slow adoption of Windows S, it made no sense to keep pushing UWP.
UWP apps ran in a container so it's be harder to fuck around with Windows by installing infected programs. I always adviced my parents to download stuff from the store.
Windows S mode was made for this reason. No Win32 programs could be installed on that version of Windows. Basically making it an iPad.
Easier to mod, compatible with 3rd party programs like RTSS, runs in Windows 7 and 8, other digital stores will carry it.
Oh ok, thank you. The first part is interesting, even if the Windows Store isn't as good as Steam for mods.
Their games still make a mess of your drive. And their games running on Windows 7 is more because they are porting DirectX12 to Windows 7 right now.
I edited my post to include one more thing: UWP apps are incompatible with useful third party applications like RTSS.
Also the potential to be able to run it in Linux through wine/proton as well. I'm pretty sure UWP can't be run on Linux as of now.
Just to add to this it's not that it's easier to mod, more that you don't need the developers/publishers explicit permission to do so as UWP basically was completed locked unless the dev allowed it to be otherwise.
I think that was more how W10 addresses the display and that borderless full screen is just better. Sure someone else can confirm as I don't think it unique to UWP.
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