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Marossi

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So, my main account is officially 700 days old. So I thought I would do a comparison...

AR 60, 700 days old, welkin and BP (on and off)
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VS AR 54, 74 days old, F2P
I am now fully up to date on Sumeru after just finishing the whole Aranara questline, all I have left is to continue unlocking Hangouts with story keys
The most painful difference between the 2 is absolutely the time investment into artifacts, and artifact exp. Most of my ok 5 star ones are around lv 8.
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Very interesting that you didn't ascend to 90 all of your characters (except 2). Is ascending to 90 really that bad? I know that it's extremely costly but depending on the substat ascenscion that would be worth it no? Not to mention being able to level talents to 10...
 

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Very interesting that you didn't ascend to 90 all of your characters (except 2). Is ascending to 90 really that bad? I know that it's extremely costly but depending on the substat ascenscion that would be worth it no? Not to mention being able to level talents to 10...

I do it cause it's really not *that* bad, but the damage increase is pretty negligible typically.

Except for anemo. If you want to swirl with anemo characters, you should def get to 90(like they did haha)
 

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Very interesting that you didn't ascend to 90 all of your characters (except 2). Is ascending to 90 really that bad? I know that it's extremely costly but depending on the substat ascenscion that would be worth it no? Not to mention being able to level talents to 10...
The difference between 80/90 to 90/90 isn't worth it, unless you going for completion.
With the exception of Transformative characters.
 

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I do it cause it's really not *that* bad, but the damage increase is pretty negligible typically.

Except for anemo. If you want to swirl with anemo characters, you should def get to 90(like they did haha)

Honestly, If I could I would level down Venti, his Ult would be way more useful for most of my teams with the weaker pull, when enemies are barely floating above the ground.
 

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I really wish they'd fix Bennet's 6th constellation. Pulling Bennett is especially annoying when you've got the little red exclamation on your character icon.

Very interesting that you didn't ascend to 90 all of your characters (except 2). Is ascending to 90 really that bad? I know that it's extremely costly but depending on the substat ascenscion that would be worth it no? Not to mention being able to level talents to 10...

i have one 90 (see my above post to figure out who) but I've seen enough Genshin posters talking about how it's better to just move on to the next character to grind to 80 than worry about getting that one to 90.

Which is why you see so many people with full stacks of 80s.

I find them impressive too though. I hate hunting mushrooms and flowers for the ascensions. Christ Ganyu took me like two days following a YouTube tutorial to get Qingxin. I get so bored. My kid asked me to watch me lvl Klee and even he got bored watching me run around climbing buildings and scanning the horizon for those mushrooms.
 

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I have 3 level 90 characters, Kazuha, Tighnari, and Traveler. Most other characters that use heavily are at 80.
 

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Very interesting that you didn't ascend to 90 all of your characters (except 2). Is ascending to 90 really that bad? I know that it's extremely costly but depending on the substat ascenscion that would be worth it no? Not to mention being able to level talents to 10...

It's not bad, just that I don't need it to 36* at this point, and there's nothing else more difficult than that
If I struggle down the line I might level more
Also many are ascended to 80/90, not 80/80. So I can level talents if I want. However I have nobody crowned for the same reason as levelling to 90. I stick to talent level 8.
 
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Kewlmyc

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Bennett's C6 benefits more units than it does ruin units at this point. In terms of 5*, it only really affects Keqing and Eula, iirc.
 

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Very interesting that you didn't ascend to 90 all of your characters (except 2). Is ascending to 90 really that bad? I know that it's extremely costly but depending on the substat ascenscion that would be worth it no? Not to mention being able to level talents to 10...
You want to *ascend* a character to where their max level is 90, because that does allow you level 10 talents and your full main stat, but only a handful of characters actually benefit from being leveled fully to 90 (which has no effect on their main stat, only their base ATK/DEF/HP) and even those characters (usually ones that are dependent on EM + level scaling reactions) I have been able to get away with keeping at level 80/80 or 80/90 -- even 4 star ones.
Bennett's C6 benefits more units than it does ruin units at this point. In terms of 5*, it only really affects Keqing and Eula, iirc.
And Keqing no longer needs Bennett.
 

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Cute but overworked describes half the female cast of this game. :P

That's actually pretty true. Lol. No wonder every event is basically a vacation.

This is simply incorrect. Only some characters fall into the "overworked waifu" trope.
Let's look at Genshin's entire female cast sans the kids.
  1. Aloy
  2. Amber
  3. Ayaka
  4. Barbara
  5. Beidou
  6. Collei
  7. Eula
  8. Fischl
  9. Ganyu: overworked
  10. Hu Tao
  11. Jean: overworked
  12. Keqing: overworked
  13. Kokomi: overworked
  14. Lisa
  15. Mona
  16. Ninguang
  17. Noelle
  18. Raiden
  19. Rosaria
  20. Sara: probably overworked
  21. Shenhe
  22. Shinobu
  23. Xiangling
  24. Xinyan
  25. Yae
  26. Yan Fei
  27. Yelan
  28. Yoimiya
  29. Yun Jin
Out of 29 female characters, only 5 of them are overworked or 17.2%, far from the "most of the female cast are overworked waifu" impression some have.
 
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Kaz was my only level 90 for the longest time. Nearly everyone else at 80/90.

That's started to change now if the character has some additional scaling off HP or DEF. so Yelan, Ayato, Albedo etc.

With EM becoming a bigger deal with Dendro it'll be more common.
 

Kewlmyc

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This is simply incorrect. Only some characters fall into the "overworked waifu" trope.
Let's look at Genshin's entire female cast sans the kids.
  1. Aloy
  2. Amber
  3. Ayaka
  4. Barbara
  5. Beidou
  6. Collei
  7. Eula
  8. Fischl
  9. Ganyu: overworked
  10. Hu Tao
  11. Jean: overworked
  12. Keqing: overworked
  13. Kokomi: overworked
  14. Lisa
  15. Mona
  16. Ninguang
  17. Noelle
  18. Raiden
  19. Rosaria
  20. Sara: probably overworked
  21. Shenhe
  22. Shinobu
  23. Xiangling
  24. Xinyan
  25. Yae
  26. Yan Fei
  27. Yelan
  28. Yoimiya
  29. Yun Jin
Out of 29 female characters, only 5 of them are overworked or 17.2%, far from the "most of the female cast are overworked waifu" impression some have.
I'm honored you put this much research into my shitpost.

Though since we're here now, I'd argue that Noelle, Ningguang, and Yunjin are overworked as well if you did their hangouts.
 

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I'm honored you put this much research into my shitpost.

Though since we're here now, I'd argue that Noelle, Ningguang, and Yunjin are overworked as well if you did their hangouts.

I haven't done Yun Jin's and Ningguang's hangout yet so my information is based on their voicelines and stories as well as main story and event story.
Even if we include them, 8/29 is still far from half the female cast.
 

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Very interesting that you didn't ascend to 90 all of your characters (except 2). Is ascending to 90 really that bad? I know that it's extremely costly but depending on the substat ascenscion that would be worth it no? Not to mention being able to level talents to 10...
The ascension to 80/90 is costly but pretty much worth it for everyone.
Levelling to 90 is pretty costly for usually not that much benefit (with some exceptions), which is why most people stop at 80/90 and only level a few chars to 90.
I think it's good advice at the beginning, when you're still building your roster, but after a while I think the cost gets overrated.

Personally I dislike artifact farming because the progress is completely RNG and unpredictable, and instead like working on finite upgrades (talents, weapons, ascentions and levels), so I currently have 18 characters at level 90, 8 characters at 80/90 and the other 14 at 70/80. (Without BP resources, I don't buy the BP).
 

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This is simply incorrect. Only some characters fall into the "overworked waifu" trope.
Let's look at Genshin's entire female cast sans the kids.
  1. Aloy
  2. Amber
  3. Ayaka
  4. Barbara
  5. Beidou
  6. Collei
  7. Eula
  8. Fischl
  9. Ganyu: overworked
  10. Hu Tao
  11. Jean: overworked
  12. Keqing: overworked
  13. Kokomi: overworked
  14. Lisa
  15. Mona
  16. Ninguang
  17. Noelle
  18. Raiden
  19. Rosaria
  20. Sara: probably overworked
  21. Shenhe
  22. Shinobu
  23. Xiangling
  24. Xinyan
  25. Yae
  26. Yan Fei
  27. Yelan
  28. Yoimiya
  29. Yun Jin
Out of 29 female characters, only 5 of them are overworked or 17.2%, far from the "most of the female cast are overworked waifu" impression some have.

Oh I was non-committal to the original posters point. We're just having fun here. I could only come up with the ones you did though I'd switch Sara for Raiden. Raiden's quests seem to indicate that now that she's got her mind straightening out she seems frustrated with how much shit she's gotta fix that she caused. Sara would never admit to being overworked, she would just say that she's frustrated by these criminals, y'all.

There are some characters who give me the impression that they're stretching themselves thin:

Amber, Ayaka, Rosaria, Shinobu (100%), and Hu Tao.
 

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I can't even be assed to ascend anyone to 80/90 because at that point I'd rather just raise a new character. I know I'm leaving a lot of power from talent levels on the table but I just don't feel like I need it. I can get above 30* in the Abyss anyway and I'm not that bothered I can't get 36*, which is the only content it would help with. I mainly play the game for overworld stuff where I already shred everything and see no point making it even easier lol.

Speaking of which, I hope they allow us to raise the World Level further at some point, preferably in a way not tied to the AR.
 

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Looking at this week's beta updates for Cyno and Nilou

It's almost funny how much they want you to play Nilou on a Bloom only comp to the point of nerfing other choices. It's almost kind of interesting how specific of a character she is going to be.

Not a deep numbers guy but seeing people say Cyno's calculated dps comes out to just around Keqing and maybe even worse is unfortunate. I get that she just got a major buff Cyno seems like a case of not being the best at anything and just "another main dps" unit.
 

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The end of chapter 4 in the book broke for me - Agnihotra Sutra Part 2

got a flower from the old man npc, one of our flower buddies came up and took it, now I'm not sure what to do after. Every guide I seen showed what happened there differently.
 

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Looking at this week's beta updates for Cyno and Nilou

It's almost funny how much they want you to play Nilou on a Bloom only comp to the point of nerfing other choices. It's almost kind of interesting how specific of a character she is going to be.

Not a deep numbers guy but seeing people say Cyno's calculated dps comes out to just around Keqing and maybe even worse is unfortunate. I get that she just got a major buff Cyno seems like a case of not being the best at anything and just "another main dps" unit.
But if you want to use him does it really matter? He'll clear the abyss fine.
 

DNAbro

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But if you want to use him does it really matter? He'll clear the abyss fine.

Oh i'm still 100% getting him and I am sure he will be just fine damage wise. I admit I do kind of like the more specific nature of what they are doing with newer units, being the best in a niche is interesting to me. Cyno's playstyle is the main thing I'm looking forward to because he looks like a ton of fun to play in his burst with the eye mechanic.
 

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Looking at this week's beta updates for Cyno and Nilou

It's almost funny how much they want you to play Nilou on a Bloom only comp to the point of nerfing other choices. It's almost kind of interesting how specific of a character she is going to be.

Not a deep numbers guy but seeing people say Cyno's calculated dps comes out to just around Keqing and maybe even worse is unfortunate. I get that she just got a major buff Cyno seems like a case of not being the best at anything and just "another main dps" unit.
I'm fully expecting Nilou's banner to flop lol. Nothing wrong with making highly specialized units but releasing her when you can barely make a team around her specialty is just bizarre. Since we barely have any dendro teammates for her and literally only one dendro character coming in the forseeable future. She may do very well on a rerun though lol

We knew hoyo would never make a male DPS unit OP but Cyno being barely on Keqing's level is just sad, even if she's not bad now
 

Kewlmyc

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I haven't done Yun Jin's and Ningguang's hangout yet so my information is based on their voicelines and stories as well as main story and event story.
Even if we include them, 8/29 is still far from half the female cast.
I was just messing around and having fun when I said that, but now I feel motivated to actually defend my half-assed position. That and I have the day off, so I'm bored.

First it depends on your personal definition of "overworked", since the definition of working "too long or hard" is different from person to person. You can like your job, but still be overworked. So just going off the list you gave, I think:

  1. Aloy: Overworked - If you've played Horizon, she's definitely overworked. She's the only competent human being in that world.
  2. Amber: Stable - Constantly seems to be out doing outrider stuff, but not enough info to say she is overworked
  3. Ayaka: Overworked - Works as the head of festival planning for the Yashiro commission. Has had all these responsibilities from a young age. Doesn't have many friends to hang out with, and is rarely seen in town.
  4. Barbara: Overworked - Hangout has her barely being able to hang out with friends due to being a nun, the go to healer/nurse/doctor of the entire city of Mondstadt, as well as an idol.
  5. Beidou: Stable - Captain of a pirate ship, so she could be overworked, but nothing in her lore or hangout suggests this
  6. Collei: Stable - Newbie Forest Ranger who doesn't go out on many patrols due to her illness
  7. Eula: Stable - Does plenty of missions, but nothing in her lore suggests she's overworked. She just doesn't have much of a social life due to being awkward as hell and her family history
  8. Fischl: stable - One of the best the Adventure Guild has, and constantly seems to be out on missions, but that's not enough to go off of, so putting as stable
  9. Ganyu: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  10. Hu Tao: Stable - She's the boss of a funeral parlor, so I assume she's busy, but not enough to go off of.
  11. Jean: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  12. Keqing: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  13. Kokomi: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  14. Lisa: Stable - She's the librarian of the Knights. Could be overworked, but not enough info to go off of.
  15. Mona: Stable - While she's constantly poor, it's been shown that's due to poor financial planning. I'll assume she's has a stable work life
  16. Ninguang: Overworked - Never has a day off, has secretaries that has to plan out every hour of her day, runs a country
  17. Noelle: Overworked - Basically the handywoman of the entire city. When she's not doing whatever people ask of her, she's studying to become a knight.
  18. Raiden: Stable - this one is more complicated. She runs a country, but that's mostly the robot.
  19. Rosaria: Overworked - Nun at day, basically an assassin at night. Two jobs. I consider anyone who has a day and night job to be overworked to some degree.
  20. Sara: probably overworked - Willing to go with overworked since she basically the head of their military and was all over the place during the archon quest.
  21. Shenhe: Stable - Not even sure she has a job.
  22. Shinobu: Overworked - Constantly getting new certifications, while basically being the mother of 4 grown ass manbabies. My heart goes out to her.
  23. Xiangling: Overworked - World renowned chef that is always hunting for new ingredients. Any time she isn't cooking, she's preparing to cook.
  24. Xinyan: Stable - While she is a rock and roller, I think she's self employed as one. Not enough to go off of.
  25. Yae: Overworked - Two jobs. Head of the shrine maidens, while also owning her own publishing business.
  26. Yan Fei: Overworked - She's a good lawyer. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, as being a *good* lawyer is a job that leave very little downtime.
  27. Yelan: Stable - Pat of me wants to say she's overworked, as she's part of Liyue's secret ops, but also not enough to go off of.
  28. Yoimiya: Stable - Makes fireworks and plays with kids all day.
  29. Yun Jin: Overworked - Rarely has a day off due to constant practice, interviews, and performances.

That's 16/29.
 

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I was just messing around and having fun when I said that, but now I feel motivated to actually defend my half-assed position. That and I have the day off, so I'm bored.

First it depends on your personal definition of "overworked", since the definition of working "too long or hard" is different from person to person. You can like your job, but still be overworked. So just going off the list you gave, I think:

  1. Aloy: Overworked - If you've played Horizon, she's definitely overworked. She's the only competent human being in that world.
  2. Amber: Stable - Constantly seems to be out doing outrider stuff, but not enough info to say she is overworked
  3. Ayaka: Overworked - Works as the head of festival planning for the Yashiro commission. Has had all these responsibilities from a young age. Doesn't have many friends to hang out with, and is rarely seen in town.
  4. Barbara: Overworked - Hangout has her barely being able to hang out with friends due to being a nun, the go to healer/nurse/doctor of the entire city of Mondstadt, as well as an idol.
  5. Beidou: Stable - Captain of a pirate ship, so she could be overworked, but nothing in her lore or hangout suggests this
  6. Collei: Stable - Newbie Forest Ranger who doesn't go out on many patrols due to her illness
  7. Eula: Stable - Does plenty of missions, but nothing in her lore suggests she's overworked. She just doesn't have much of a social life due to being awkward as hell and her family history
  8. Fischl: stable - One of the best the Adventure Guild has, and constantly seems to be out on missions, but that's not enough to go off of, so putting as stable
  9. Ganyu: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  10. Hu Tao: Stable - She's the boss of a funeral parlor, so I assume she's busy, but not enough to go off of.
  11. Jean: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  12. Keqing: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  13. Kokomi: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  14. Lisa: Stable - She's the librarian of the Knights. Could be overworked, but not enough info to go off of.
  15. Mona: Stable - While she's constantly poor, it's been shown that's due to poor financial planning. I'll assume she's has a stable work life
  16. Ninguang: Overworked - Never has a day off, has secretaries that has to plan out every hour of her day, runs a country
  17. Noelle: Overworked - Basically the handywoman of the entire city. When she's not doing whatever people ask of her, she's studying to become a knight.
  18. Raiden: Stable - this one is more complicated. She runs a country, but that's mostly the robot.
  19. Rosaria: Overworked - Nun at day, basically an assassin at night. Two jobs. I consider anyone who has a day and night job to be overworked to some degree.
  20. Sara: probably overworked - Willing to go with overworked since she basically the head of their military and was all over the place during the archon quest.
  21. Shenhe: Stable - Not even sure she has a job.
  22. Shinobu: Overworked - Constantly getting new certifications, while basically being the mother of 4 grown ass manbabies. My heart goes out to her.
  23. Xiangling: Overworked - World renowned chef that is always hunting for new ingredients. Any time she isn't cooking, she's preparing to cook.
  24. Xinyan: Stable - While she is a rock and roller, I think she's self employed as one. Not enough to go off of.
  25. Yae: Overworked - Two jobs. Head of the shrine maidens, while also owning her own publishing business.
  26. Yan Fei: Overworked - She's a good lawyer. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, as being a *good* lawyer is a job that leave very little downtime.
  27. Yelan: Stable - Pat of me wants to say she's overworked, as she's part of Liyue's secret ops, but also not enough to go off of.
  28. Yoimiya: Stable - Makes fireworks and plays with kids all day.
  29. Yun Jin: Overworked - Rarely has a day off due to constant practice, interviews, and performances.

That's 16/29.

That's a majority! We win!

Seriously though, I love the work you put into this. I read it off to my kid. We both got a laugh at Aloy because I was thinking the same thing - her, like Raiden, has so much on their minds (or so much duty to fulfill) I would consider them in need of a mental vacation.

Also, I think that Eula is overworked but she's so into that she probably feels she isn't working hard enough and it eats her up.
 

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Welp, I got Amos bow on the standard banner so I guess this means I have to pull for Ganyu now 🤷‍♂️
 

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I was just messing around and having fun when I said that, but now I feel motivated to actually defend my half-assed position. That and I have the day off, so I'm bored.

First it depends on your personal definition of "overworked", since the definition of working "too long or hard" is different from person to person. You can like your job, but still be overworked. So just going off the list you gave, I think:

That's 16/29.

This is getting interesting. :'D

First of all, being "overworked" to the point that can be called a trope is different from "hey, that sounds hard so you must be overworked" IMO. There's a line between being hard working (which is a virtue) and being overworked. Unless the game explicitly states someone is overworked to the point of not having the time to care for herself, I wouldn't call that "overworked".

That said, let's break your points down.

Aloy: Overworked - If you've played Horizon, she's definitely overworked. She's the only competent human being in that world.

I haven't played Horizon so I don't know the details, but in Genshin world, she's certainly not overworked.

Ayaka: Overworked - Works as the head of festival planning for the Yashiro commission. Has had all these responsibilities from a young age. Doesn't have many friends to hang out with, and is rarely seen in town.

This is where some misunderstood her character. Ayaka is not overworked, she's just tired of having to keep up with the perfect princess appearance due to her position. She's completely different from Keqing during Lantern Rite 2.

Barbara: Overworked - Hangout has her barely being able to hang out with friends due to being a nun, the go to healer/nurse/doctor of the entire city of Mondstadt, as well as an idol.

She holds many positions at once but there is nowhere in the game that states she has to work to the point of neglecting herself like Ganyu and Keqing. So she's not overworked.

Rosaria: Overworked - Nun at day, basically an assassin at night. Two jobs. I consider anyone who has a day and night job to be overworked to some degree.

"Anything is negotiable except overtime". If the person said this herself, I consider her not being overworked. She still has time to hang around Angel's Share after all.

Xiangling: Overworked - World renowned chef that is always hunting for new ingredients. Any time she isn't cooking, she's preparing to cook.

Cooking is her passion and new ingredients are like new toys to her. Not overworked.

Yae: Overworked - Two jobs. Head of the shrine maidens, while also owning her own publishing business.

"I decided to found Yae Publishing House simply because I wished to read more interesting light novels, that's all." (More About Yae Miko: III)
"My favorite pastime is reading other people's stories. My second favorite is watching other people squirm... If I could find a way to combine the two, haha... Oh, that would be entertainment in its purest form." (Yae Miko's Hobbies)

The publishing house is just pure amusement for her. Not overworked.

Yan Fei: Overworked - She's a good lawyer. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, as being a *good* lawyer is a job that leave very little downtime.

This is like saying a person is definitely overworked just because he/she's a lawyer. Unless the game states otherwise, she's not overworked.
 

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I feel like we aren't going to have a good gauge on Cyno and Nilou for a while with so few dendro units
Esp when we don't know dendro archon's kit

Unrelated: rare no hat Hu Tao sighting in a store collab
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Yeah, it's very difficult to evaluate how good the new element and characters who work with it are at the moment. It is great to see some less popular characters get more use, but I feel Kusanali is really important.

It doesn't look like there's many dendro characters on the horizon in the near future, so it would be nice if she was excellent.

I feel like she needs to be an off-field dendro applier, who does good damage and buffs up EM to make an impact. I wouldn't be shocked if they chucked some cheeky healing into her cons either.
 

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Nahida had better have good off-field dendro application, or the state of Dendro generally is going to be weird and limiting for a really long time. With her not coming until at least 3.2 and no clear idea of when any other dendro units will be appearing after that, it looks right now like we're in store for at least half a year with Tighnari, Traveler, Collei, and Nahida as our only sources of dendro, and outside of maybe the traveler's burst I haven't had the sense that people are otherwise terribly impressed with what's available.
 

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I was just messing around and having fun when I said that, but now I feel motivated to actually defend my half-assed position. That and I have the day off, so I'm bored.

First it depends on your personal definition of "overworked", since the definition of working "too long or hard" is different from person to person. You can like your job, but still be overworked. So just going off the list you gave, I think:

  1. Aloy: Overworked - If you've played Horizon, she's definitely overworked. She's the only competent human being in that world.
  2. Amber: Stable - Constantly seems to be out doing outrider stuff, but not enough info to say she is overworked
  3. Ayaka: Overworked - Works as the head of festival planning for the Yashiro commission. Has had all these responsibilities from a young age. Doesn't have many friends to hang out with, and is rarely seen in town.
  4. Barbara: Overworked - Hangout has her barely being able to hang out with friends due to being a nun, the go to healer/nurse/doctor of the entire city of Mondstadt, as well as an idol.
  5. Beidou: Stable - Captain of a pirate ship, so she could be overworked, but nothing in her lore or hangout suggests this
  6. Collei: Stable - Newbie Forest Ranger who doesn't go out on many patrols due to her illness
  7. Eula: Stable - Does plenty of missions, but nothing in her lore suggests she's overworked. She just doesn't have much of a social life due to being awkward as hell and her family history
  8. Fischl: stable - One of the best the Adventure Guild has, and constantly seems to be out on missions, but that's not enough to go off of, so putting as stable
  9. Ganyu: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  10. Hu Tao: Stable - She's the boss of a funeral parlor, so I assume she's busy, but not enough to go off of.
  11. Jean: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  12. Keqing: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  13. Kokomi: overworked - Self explanatory for her since it's one of her main character gimmicks
  14. Lisa: Stable - She's the librarian of the Knights. Could be overworked, but not enough info to go off of.
  15. Mona: Stable - While she's constantly poor, it's been shown that's due to poor financial planning. I'll assume she's has a stable work life
  16. Ninguang: Overworked - Never has a day off, has secretaries that has to plan out every hour of her day, runs a country
  17. Noelle: Overworked - Basically the handywoman of the entire city. When she's not doing whatever people ask of her, she's studying to become a knight.
  18. Raiden: Stable - this one is more complicated. She runs a country, but that's mostly the robot.
  19. Rosaria: Overworked - Nun at day, basically an assassin at night. Two jobs. I consider anyone who has a day and night job to be overworked to some degree.
  20. Sara: probably overworked - Willing to go with overworked since she basically the head of their military and was all over the place during the archon quest.
  21. Shenhe: Stable - Not even sure she has a job.
  22. Shinobu: Overworked - Constantly getting new certifications, while basically being the mother of 4 grown ass manbabies. My heart goes out to her.
  23. Xiangling: Overworked - World renowned chef that is always hunting for new ingredients. Any time she isn't cooking, she's preparing to cook.
  24. Xinyan: Stable - While she is a rock and roller, I think she's self employed as one. Not enough to go off of.
  25. Yae: Overworked - Two jobs. Head of the shrine maidens, while also owning her own publishing business.
  26. Yan Fei: Overworked - She's a good lawyer. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, as being a *good* lawyer is a job that leave very little downtime.
  27. Yelan: Stable - Pat of me wants to say she's overworked, as she's part of Liyue's secret ops, but also not enough to go off of.
  28. Yoimiya: Stable - Makes fireworks and plays with kids all day.
  29. Yun Jin: Overworked - Rarely has a day off due to constant practice, interviews, and performances.

That's 16/29.
This post is actually amazing haha.
 

xendless

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Jan 23, 2019
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One cool thing about the lack of Dendro characters is that Traveller will be relevant for a long time, with their most fun kit
I can definitely imagine common Abyss comps with Kusanali one side and Traveller the other
If someone wants to play a dendro team with Cyno and a team with Nilou, they're gonna need it
 

Tsuyu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Who else uses EoSF set besides Raiden, XiangLing, Yelan, XingQiu, Beidou?
 
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VPplaya

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Nov 20, 2018
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Just in my own experience so far, Tighnari+Raiden for Dendro+Electro is doing some pretty decent damage. I've messed around a little bit with bloom, but it just seems harder to properly utilize. I am definitely interested in Nilou bloom teams to see if it gets improved.
 

deliquate

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Feb 25, 2021
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Every time Ganyu shows up I'm interested but not interested enough. I think I'm going to be rolling for Kokomi, though it's a tough call.
 

bunkitz

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Oct 28, 2017
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Finished the archon quests the other day. I knew it wasn't the whole story yet but I was surprised it ended after two acts. (This is the first time I'm caught up on content, so I don't know if this is the norm. Started playing when Raiden's first banner was up.) Not that I mind, as the two 3.0 came with were much better than I expected. It's kind of astonishing how good and compelling this was compared to the previous ones. I was getting emotional over a Genshin NPC. That's never happened before! Well, from the archon quests. Tsurumi Island was something else too. 😭

I'm really interested in the dessert and Scarlet King stuff, looking forward to learning more about them. The Akademiya, on the other hand… I've not had any characters or factions I hate before in Genshin, but those bastards have got to go. Lemme team up with the Fatui and the Abyss to eradicate them, lol.

Sumeru as a whole has been really fun, which feels wonderful coming from Inazuma. I was excited for Inazuma as I was catching up, but wound up being pretty disappointed with the region because of, mostly exploration-related woes. It was just really annoying how to find a lot of electroculi and some of the puzzles were tedious too. That, and the fact that when I was going through the region for the first time, I was much weaker and found the mobs there somewhat difficult. Combine that with the hostile territory and I was not having the best time. I wanted to explore a lot and find seelies, oculi, and treasure chests, but I felt like I was getting blocked repeatedly. Inazuma gripes aside, the magic zippy points in Sumeru are just wonderful. The puzzles are pretty nice and it just feels so much easier to discover stuff and complete challenges. I just really love exploring the region. And the underground caves! I wish the map was better but it feels awesome finding these places and solving puzzles, clearing challenges, etc.

Dendro has also been a lot more fun than I expected. Collei too! I rarely actually aim with her and stuff but I like her skill and burst quite a bit, and being able to create elemental reaction after reaction is always very satisfying. I just wish those damned mushrooms weren't so hard to find…
 

Divvy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I want to know the lore behind this glowing jellyfish we keep having to catch in the commissions
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
20,252
Is it worth spending 34 Starglitter on Xingqiu?

Mine is only C0 but he's quickly become a key team member and C1 looks really good.
 

Orion

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,024
All I know for sure is Yae ain't overworked. She definitely pawns all real responsibilities off on her employees in favor of planning who to troll next while writing Raiden fanfic.

Collei level 80 now with skill and burst at 8 let's go! Girl's gotta get tough if she's gonna carry dendro for me for Lord Rukkhadevata knows how long. I feel the pain of all the rukkhashava mushroom searchers out there though... only 52 more to go for level 90....
 

Arcus Felis

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Oct 26, 2017
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Is it worth spending 34 Starglitter on Xingqiu?

Mine is only C0 but he's quickly become a key team member and C1 looks really good.
Yes. Considering the Starglitter don't have much other uses, you should use them on characters you want/need, and AFAIK you can only use Starglitters on characters that were available on launch day. Unless they change that, no point in hoarding them.
 
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