Gacha games are known to burn, the point at the end of the day is to entice the player to spend money. that's the catch. It's why the game is free. Of course, any game can be free to play, but the price for that in lieu of money, is the players time and commitment.
This seems to be unlike any gacha game before however. It is a large release, basically triple A in scale, so it's sort of uncharted waters as far as monetization. The best indicator may be Honkai Impact 3rd, which by all means is not unlike other typical gacha games in its predatory schemes. Though like I said earlier, perhaps that isn't a fair comparison. The scale of this gacha game is on another level.
I absolutely agree with you, there's absolutely nothing like Genshin Impact around, the only thing that comes to mind is Warframe, in that it's a very, VERY big game that can absolutely be played without paying, though paying helps speed up the process of acquiring many things. Also, Warframe has a few open world areas, but nothing on the scale of Genshin Impact.
Really, there's nothing it compares to, it's absolutely uncharted territory.
Also unlike Warframe this game doesn't have PvP, whether that is a good or bad thing when it comes to gacha game practices I won't comment on as I don't have knowledge on that.
Is that the one where you're finding treasure for Kaeya? Go talk to him in the knights HQ and he'll overexplain whichever step you're on to death.Has anybody completed the Treasure Lost, Treasure Found side quest? I can't for the life of me figure out what to do near the pool of water.
It's definitely not trying to endear anyone with the quantity of pulls you get to do, nor with your likelihood of getting anything good from them.Well, as someone who plays and played heaps of gacha games, PvP is generally a red flag, as that's where the P2W aspects come into play: having the latest and best units, thans to powercreep, is what makes people wanna spend money to stay on top.
The fact that Genshin Impact doesn't have PvP should make it more similar to something like Azur Lane, where the quantity of pulls you're given, along with the free characters, make you wanna spend money just to support the devs, getting maybe just a cool skin or some pulls even if it's not strictly needed.
Judging from the videos and opinions I've seen, it seems Genshin might go this route, and I sure hope it is like that, and will stay like this.
Is that the one where you're finding treasure for Kaeya? Go talk to him in the knights HQ and he'll overexplain whichever step you're on to death.
It's definitely not trying to endear anyone with the quantity of pulls you get to do, nor with your likelihood of getting anything good from them.
It takes an absolutely ridiculous amount of time and effort to get enough currency to make a 10-pull, and that's with the help of non renewable sources like quests and treasure chests (you'd think that since they're one time only they'd give you a decent amount, but nope). Now that I've effectively used up all of those and am pretty much solely reliant on login rewards and daily commisions, it's going to be a very long time before I can do another pull.
Their strategy seems to be to bowl you over so hard with the quality and quantity of the actual game that you'll be willing to put up with by far the most brutal gatcha of any game I've personally ever seen.
Also unlike Warframe this game doesn't have PvP, whether that is a good or bad thing when it comes to gacha game practices I won't comment on as I don't have knowledge on that.
Is that the one where you're finding treasure for Kaeya? Go talk to him in the knights HQ and he'll overexplain whichever step you're on to death.
It's definitely not trying to endear anyone with the quantity of pulls you get to do, nor with your likelihood of getting anything good from them.
It takes an absolutely ridiculous amount of time and effort to get enough currency to make a 10-pull, and that's with the help of non renewable sources like quests and treasure chests (you'd think that since they're one time only they'd give you a decent amount, but nope). Now that I've effectively used up all of those and am pretty much solely reliant on login rewards and daily commisions, it's going to be a very long time before I can do another pull.
Their strategy seems to be to bowl you over so hard with the quality and quantity of the actual game that you'll be willing to put up with by far the most brutal gatcha of any game I've personally ever seen.
Is that the one where you're finding treasure for Kaeya? Go talk to him in the knights HQ and he'll overexplain whichever step you're on to death.
It's definitely not trying to endear anyone with the quantity of pulls you get to do, nor with your likelihood of getting anything good from them.
It takes an absolutely ridiculous amount of time and effort to get enough currency to make a 10-pull, and that's with the help of non renewable sources like quests and treasure chests (you'd think that since they're one time only they'd give you a decent amount, but nope). Now that I've effectively used up all of those and am pretty much solely reliant on login rewards and daily commisions, it's going to be a very long time before I can do another pull.
Their strategy seems to be to bowl you over so hard with the quality and quantity of the actual game that you'll be willing to put up with by far the most brutal gatcha of any game I've personally ever seen.
Idk, I don't think you're supposed to be focused on getting chars 100% of the time.
No, the quest is given to you by some lady in Liyue.Is that the one where you're finding treasure for Kaeya? Go talk to him in the knights HQ and he'll overexplain whichever step you're on to death.
Even if pulling isn't the main thing, some people like to do it with the free resources a gacha game usually provides. If these resources are rare, people are going to be upset.Lol @ all the "yikes" and "hard pass" comments, because someone pointed out that the character pulling rates are awful. Pulling characters isn't the main thing of this game. Except from using the gacha to pull Noelle (which is pretty much guaranteed) at the beginning and another time trying to get Venti (gave me only a 4 star weapon) I have in over 30 hours of playing not engaged in the gacha at all, because you simply don't need to. You get all the characters that you need to play this game for free with the story. 99% of this game is a high quality and fun open world action JRPG for free, I have no idea why it's a "yikes" and "hard pass" when you don't get your preferred waifu or husbando as a cherry on top instantly and for free as well.
This.
On another note, Mihoyo is holding a Genshin Impact photography contest! :D
Personally the main attraction in a gacha game is usually pulling.
Oh, well if it's the one I'm thinking of then you might try
Not the one either, I'm afraid lolOh, well if it's the one I'm thinking of then you might tryIf that's not it then you'll have to describe the quest a bit more specifically.Checking behind the waterfall for a cave.
I have no memory of that and there's no record for side quests that aren't part of a larger chain so I can't offer an specific help, but... Be on the lookout for:Not the one either, I'm afraid lol
You're being tasked with activating 4 jade plates in the ruins just south of the inn in the tree. One of them, which is located by a round pool of water, won't activate and Paimon says that there must be some special mechanism needed to do so.
I think you're given hints when activating the other three plates, but I'm too stupid to get them.
Kinda worrying to hear that the PS4 version is having performance issues. Hopefully they fixed it later because then the Switch version it's going to be awful.
Also who knows if the game might be playable later in PS5 via backward compatibility.
So close yet so far away.Apparently in a blog post they confirmed the game will launch in Autumn
All the characters are super precious, and their story lines are hilarious.
They really are great -- like obviously being a gacha game I imagine the overarching plot is gonna get sacrificed a bit since the point is to keep the game going for as long as possible, but I love that they make up for it with character quests. I looooovvveee me some character-focused story telling, and getting to see how they all interact together. It's always the best part for me.They are, and I love the character side quests each one of them have. They are the best side quests in any JRPG I played. I can't wait to unlock more and to get to play the ones that did not make it into this beta.
Well played Mihoyo, you really managed to make us want to pull those characters so bad, even though you really don't need them, because the rest of the game is so good and it is so with just the 4 story characters that are provided to you.
I by the way also tried to pull particularly Venti to no avail. :( He's probably my favorite character. I love how cheeky, brash and wise he is, while looking so young and innocent at the same time.
Also, isn't the writing (especially the dialogue) so good in this game? Most other JRPGs (I always call it a JRPG though I should probably call it a CRPG?) have pretty poor writing and there's so much anime cringe that in my old days I often have to roll my eyes. This didn't happen here so far. The writing is smart and genuinely funny. It's still very anime, but the good kind of anime, if that makes sense. ;)
And right? I love Venti so far! I admit his personality initially threw me off (was not expecting lol), but his subtly sassy little attitude grew on me super quick. By the end of his quest I was completely emotionally invested and totally pissed for him about what happened. Biitttcchh, I will find you and I will cut you! How dare you harm my boy!! 😂
Totally agree about the writing, too. I mean, yeah it has some overall completely unbelievable premises, like... 'Oh hey we just met this guy who we have no idea if he's trustworthy or not, but let's help him steal this incredibly valuable and worshiped item anyway cuz he says it'll help!' But because the game seems aware of its silliness and keeps a perfect balance overall with it, it totally works. Instead of being dumb it's charming.
Reading through the people complaining about PS4 Pro performance makes me worried a little bit. How likely it is that we'll have a performance option that doesn't render the game in 4K?
Kind of a weird question, but has anyone tried the game with mini laptops like the GPD Win? I'm seriously thinking about getting the GPD Pocket 2 that has the same 8100y processor as the GPD Win 2 and I was curious to know if it runs.
I seem to recall reading that the game is fairly light and runs on older and weaker hardware, but maybe someone has first hand info.
It runs at 60fps on a 2018 iPad Pro without skipping a beat, so that should be somewhat of a good sign for a lot of recent laptop hardware out there.
It runs at 60fps on a 2018 iPad Pro without skipping a beat, so that should be somewhat of a good sign for a lot of recent laptop hardware out there.
This thread and the RTX 3000 rumors thread are causing me endless suffering :<
I keep checking on them everyday hoping for the set in stone release date news to break out.
This game is sooooo pretty, like a better looking BOTW without the drab color palette. Delicious
I keep hearing about how this game is awesome but also how the gacha sucks for trying to get 5* characters. Makes me really eeehhhh.
The ratio of male to female characters is actually pretty even in this game. Most of the male characters do look pretty feminine, but there are definitely husbandos here :D