George Lucas explaining why Anakin says "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil."

[Lunar Wolf]

George Lucas: "Anakin's rationalize is: 'Everybody is after power. Even the Jedi are after power.' Therefore, he thinks, "They're all equally corrupt now. So which side am I going to be on? Do I align myself with Palpatine, who is a Sith Lord and who can possibly help me save Padme? Or do I side with the Jedi and maybe lose Padme."

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It's less everyone is evil but me and more everyone sucks.

Palpatine: Remember back to your early teachings. All who gain power are afraid to lose it. Even the Jedi.

Anakin: The Jedi use their power for good.

Palpatine: Good is a point of view, Anakin. The Sith and Jedi are similar in almost every way including their quest for greater power.

Anakin: The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inwards only about themselves.

Palpatine: And the Jedi don't?

Anakin: The Jedi are selfless. They only care about other.

Palpatine(changes tactics):.........You ever hear the story of Darth Plaguies the Wise?

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Anakin just adopts Palpatine's point of view after he helps murder Mace.


As another Youtuber said: "Everyone is evil so does he become evil with Padme alive or Padme dead?"

Or in other words:

BOTH SIDES!!!!

 

[Bor Gullet]

THEN YOU ARE LOST!

 

[Quad Lasers]

Uh, yeah, that's not the issue with that line.

 

[TronLight]

I just thought that from his point of view, the Jedis were evil.

 

[Erpy]

Both sides.

 

[SRG01]

It's not so much that this idea was lost on people, but rather that it was telegraphed so poorly on screen.

 

[Deleted member 8468]

It's not the rationale, it's the shit writing.

 

[kiguel182]

Glad George is explaining us the intricacies of the writing in the prequels. Such a complex text to analyze.

 

[BossAttack]

I mean, yeah. It's not that hard to understand. It's still poorly written.

 

[excelsiorlef]

It's still impressive that in a trilogy whose only purpose was to show why Anakin became Vader Lucas managed to still make it feel rushed and totally unearned

 

[Keldroc]

The old intent vs. execution thing again, eh? Just because the intent of a scene is reasonable and understandable doesn't mean the execution isn't absolutely terrible.

 

[Bor Gullet]

Both sides.

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[Lunar Wolf]

I mean, yeah. It's not that hard to understand. It's s

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I don't think most people got that Anakin is both siding it and believed he was saying the Sith are good and the Jedi are bad.

Both sides.

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Exactly. It reminded me of that so I had to post it.

 

[DeusOcha]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes

 

[Gundam]

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Fuck, I've been misquoting this as "War! There are heroes on both sides."

 

[Zed]

Anakin is an average American voter.

 

[Potterson]

Is he really this clueless?

 

[Deleted member 8579]

If Mace did kill Palpatine then Anakin would have a leg to stand on.

 

[Burly]

Fuck those 5 year old little shits, they know what they did.

 

[DeliciousSunnyD!]

Anakin is an average American voter.

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Anakin is the average Star Wars fan, but yes, in a way.

Anakin is the Dylann Roof's of modern times.

 

[skeezx]

line probably should've read like "you're all just as evil... thinking you sovereignty over the galaxy" or some such

i never thought it was that bad but with the delivery it's hard not to clown on

 

[SArcher]

Fuck those 5 year old little shits, they know what they did.

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LMAO

 

[Lunar Wolf]

Anakin is an average American voter.

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Yep.

Anakin as a neoliberal being turned alt-right.

Leia, Padme and Luke as varying level of left-wing.

Ben Solo as a full-blown incel.

 

[SupremeWu]

Anakin: My butt smells like poo and there's poo coming out of my butt, it's coming out right now

Lucas: He had to shit

 

[julia crawford]

Kreia was right. The force is evil.

 

[KillLaCam]

So, basically from his point of view the jedi are evil?

 

[Anth0ny]

HEROES ON BOTH SIDES

WHAT THE FUCK

 

[Biske]

It's not complex or hard to understand... it's just written and directed badly.

 

[thesoapster]

The best poet

 

[UltimateHigh]

it's a bad line.

 

[Lunar Wolf]

So, basically from his point of view the jedi are evil?

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Yes...but so are he and the Sith.

HEROES ON BOTH SIDES

WHAT THE FUCK

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Don't talk shit about Nute Gunray. He was a real hero.

 

[Gundam]

HEROES ON BOTH SIDES

WHAT THE FUCK

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I guess folks on the separatist worlds idolized crusty ass duku and his robot spider? That line never made sense to me

 

[lunarworks]

The Sith are some very fine people.

 

[SArcher]

HEROES ON BOTH SIDES

WHAT THE FUCK

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Heroes in the more classical sense maybe?

 

[Aaron]

I mean George, we know what you were going for.

I think it would have been more interesting if Anakin flipped in Attack of the Clones, and spent Episode III trying to maintain an awkward peace with Obi-Wan and Padme while tensions between the Jedi and the government mounted and he would ultimately choose to sever ties.

Heroes in the more classical sense maybe?

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Heroes to their followers, I would assume.

 

[Lunar Wolf]

If Mace did kill Palpatine then Anakin would have a leg to stand on.

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He did try.

The Sith are some very fine people.

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This a true man of the people.

 

[anexanhume]

Uh, yeah, that's not the issue with that line.

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Yup, some major "well, actually" going on here.

 

[Zed]

HEROES ON BOTH SIDES

WHAT THE FUCK

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Nute Gunray did nothing wrong!!1!!!!

 

[Becks']

Fuckin centrist.

 

[WascallyWabbit]

You know I think I prefer back in the day when creators didn't explain too much shit about their work. I'm looking at Lucas and Rowling specifically

 

[SArcher]

You know I think I prefer back in the day when creators didn't explain too much shit about their work. I'm looking at Lucas and Rowling specifically

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Rowling is honestly worse when ti comes to that.

 

[Deleted member 21339]

But the Jedi were fighting to preserve democracy

 

[Zed]

You know I think I prefer back in the day when creators didn't explain too much shit about their work. I'm looking at Lucas and Rowling specifically

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True. I gotta give Lucas a little bit of an edge though. At least to my knowledge George hasn't talked about Jedis shitting on the floor yet.

 

[Shelbyville Milhouse]

"From my point of view, the Jedi are evil"
*proceeds to murder a bunch of children*

 

[SArcher]

"From my point of view, the Jedi are evil"
*proceeds to murder a bunch of children*

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He had already murdered the children when he said that though.

 

[Shelbyville Milhouse]

He had already murdered the children when he said that though.

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Oh right, let me rephrase it then

*murders a bunch of children*
"From my point of view, the Jedi are evil"

 

[WascallyWabbit]

Rowling is honestly worse when ti comes to that.

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True. I gotta give Lucas a little bit of an edge though. At least to my knowledge George hasn't talked about Jedis shitting on the floor yet.

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For sure JK is worse but you know she started pretty benign by saying dumbledore and his nemesis were lovers and here we are now with shit apparating

 

[Lunar Wolf]

But the Jedi were fighting to preserve democracy

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Yeah....I don't think Anakin cared about democracy at that point.

 

[samoyed]

I didn't know the ROTS crawl actually said "both sides". Wow.

 

[Tezz]

I can't believe Trump was making a prequel reference all this time.