I had teachers that wanted me to take a final .......... 6 months after the class ended
I couldn't take the final because i found out i had cancer and had spent like 5 months in the hospital =/
Labs are different because they only meet a handful of days and usually involve group work or special equipment.Perhaps this is specific to certain majors? Almost all of my CS classes had optional attendance. Professors didn't care what you did as long as you submitted by the due date and didn't cheat.
It's to prepare you for the workforce. In America, you'd go to work even if you're sick, most of the time.
I asked if I could make it up but was denied.I don't know OP. It seems you want credit for stuff you didn't do because you weren't there. Did you get a chance or did you ask about making up that missed day? If you got denied then I get it but if you didn't even try then why should you get credit for something you didn't do?
Uh, that's how Uni is in the US too. It's just on some occasions you get a professor/class like OP did that has strict attendance policies.It's kind of crazy US universities treat students like they're lazy kids trying to skip school by default. Where I'm from you do your own scheduling, keep track of your own progress and freely choose whether you want to attend classes or not (in general, there are of course things like lab and other specialty work which are at least semi-mandatory if you want to pass).
Yeah, it does mean that you can totally screw yourself over but it's a great way to teach people to take responsibility over their own actions. Fail to complete mandatory courses or don't get enough credits together and you won't graduate. Strict attendance control is basically nonexistent, although some courses will give you extra points to your overall grade for perfect attendance.
Except most places of work would never fire someone for missing a day due to illness? That's kinda illegal my guy.its training you for the fact that work will fire you if you miss a day no matter why
yeah she wouldn't give me a grade based on my work in the class, I literally went straight into an ER and a medical induced coma literally the weekend before finals were happening in class ........ I got an incomplete in that class because i never took the final, and she wanted me to come in and take it, after almost 5 or 6 months of being in the hospital and chemo/radiation.
In my own music history classes for majors we have listening quizzes every Friday that can't be made up, but I also drop the lowest quiz grade so that they can miss one without penalty
Nevermind the fact that I am paying YOU to attend this school.
From my perspective, one of the most important aspects of higher education is the collaborative learning process that can only happen in class through lecture and discussion and by learning from the perspectives of other students. I value class participation, therefore I place grade value on attendance. There are many students that simply will not do something if there is not a motivation via grade to do it. The opportunity to learn is not enough motivation for some students.I would think the consequences would be missing out on an opportunity to learn, not an arbitrary grade deduction. If someone can complete the work well enough, why do they have to attend class?
As someone who teaches in a university and has a strict attendance policy for their modules (less than 75% and you're capped at a passing grade), the intention isn't to be cruel but rather (forcefully) encourage people to attend lab and studio times. However, sickness, bereavement, personal issues and stress are realities of the world, so I do my best to support students who reach out to me with their circumstances. Based on some of the posts, I would hate my job if I was as punitive as some of the US professors. Teaching classes is usually a joy, so I'm not sure why some people approach with such a heartless attitude.
So my department does this, but not out of malice. It gives you the chance to get the class credit later without retaking the course. We'll hold that incomplete for like a year and if you take the final in that time, we'll go back and change it to the grade you earn. Otherwise you'd need to retake the course (or keep your grade with a zero on the final).
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Let me ask you this ...... do you really think I'm gonna remember a damn thing on your class for a final when In the 5 months since I've taken It, I've been put into a medical induced coma, been on a ventilator, had all sorts of chemo and radiation to the brain, been in the hospital seeing people dying day in and day out, can barely stand on my own 2 feet, and been fighting for my life every single day for 4 months straight, and you want me to come in and "prove" that I can take your test ?
gtfo with that shit man. It wasn't even an advanced level class it was my first semester so it was introduction to psychology.
I really want to know how out of touch with reality you are to think someone going through shit like that can just come back after 4 or 5 months and just pass a test. What are you gonna try to say, that when I am literally thinking about if I'll wake up tomorrow or this is the last time i'll ever see my brother that i should be studying for your shitty ass test?
You do realize that being given the opportunity to take a final much later is better than being given a zero, right? Regardless of what unfortunate situation life handed you (and it sounds really bad), if you don't actually do the work, you don't actually get a grade.
Yeah but if you do all the work, and can't take the final, in what world is it like, yeah ok we'll throw out everything else you did and force you to take the final in 6 months; how about just ..... Using the students work up to that point and passing them ? I get it if its like the final class to verify if they are a doctor or something, but your talking basic entry level classes; some times life happens and people are all going through a shitty enough time, why make it even harder on them or take something away from them.
Next time puke in your profs face. That's what my great-grandma did.I just don't get it. I'm not skipping the class, Im missing because I literally was puking every 30-45 minutes.
Yeah but if you do all the work, and can't take the final, in what world is it like, yeah ok we'll throw out everything else you did and force you to take the final in 6 months; how about just ..... Using the students work up to that point and passing them ? I get it if its like the final class to verify if they are a doctor or something, but your talking basic entry level classes; some times life happens and people are all going through a shitty enough time, why make it even harder on them or take something away from them.
I always found it weird how in my experience, the core class professors took attendance and required it, while my major profs (Mechanical Engineering) never cared to take attendance. I honestly cannot remember a single Engineering course that had mandatory attendance. This went for labs as well, but if you missed a lab, you were fucked for the lab report, usually we had lab groups, so we helped out someone who happened to miss.
But lectures, yeah none of my Engineering profs gave a fuck if you attended, but you kinda fucked yourself if you didn't because Engineering school without attending class is really hard to do.