PlayStation can introduce a launcher on PC if they want but for the love of god keep releasing games on Steam as well.
I don't think Valve support price disparity like that, as they try to get similar pricing at some point during a given year. In their agreement it's something like "don't treat Steam customers differently to others" in terms of pricing. Discounts can be at different times and varying amounts but must eventually reach steam
More so, Valve end up with around 20% for the more successful game, and they get 0% for any keys the dev/pub generate to sell on their own store or whatever deals they want to cut with 3rd parties' stores.
In the end vs the customers and reach on Steam, it's hard to compete with that. Trying to do their own store exclusively has a barrage of issues and costs that isn't going to be resolved so easily, and there is practical certainty they would not have attachment and retention as they would with more frictionless approach such as what they are attempting now.
That is for Steam keys only. Valve can't control other prices.
Sounds like some people out here are advocating for more PS exclusive nonsense. LolPlayStation can introduce a launcher on PC if they want but for the love of god keep releasing games on Steam as well.
Because they won't have the same features. They will come up with things to try and draw people to their own launcher, besides cross-platform whatever.Then don't use it? Truly don't understand why anyone would care if they continue to launch on Steam simultaneously with all the same features. Personally would love having the Xbox PC model to access PS+/cloud streaming with cross-buy; it's a big part of their ecosystem draw for me.
Obviously if they forgo or diminish the Steam version somehow then it's an absolute no.
a sony pc launcher would bomb even more than an egs one lol. no is buying games from a new launcher for late overpriced ports and inconsistent port quality. only if they add crossbuy could it work
I don't want a Playstation launcher arbitrarily existing so Playstation can get a bigger cut. Leaving Steam with no real tangible benefits to the user is an incredibly foolish move. If a Playstation launcher were to ever exist, I would want them to copy Microsoft's strategy, simultaneous releases, crossbuy, the subscription service with an extensive library, including the part where I'm able to ignore it and continue buying their games on Steam because the Xbox app on Windows sucks.
There would be no reason not to be day 1 games if Sony locks the games to their launcher. The PC would essentially be a better performing version of a console. The reason there's not day 1 games on PC games currently is because they want people into their ecosystem by buying a console and avoid the middleman. That's not gonna happen as long as they release on Steam.
Why can't they?Well then I hope your good with late ports continuing. PC players can't have their cake and eat it too.
The blog post says it's optional.Hope people can disable or find a way to disable the overlay, I don't care about trophies and it is silly when multiple achievement overlay popups appear at once during gameplay.
Sony better get comfortable with missing out on "the cultural moment" their games have too then because it goes both ways. How many sales are they missing out on because their ports are viewed as leftovers from a couple years ago that no one really talks about anymore? Ghost of Tsushima is a bit of an outlier since it's such a unique setting done incredibly well but a lot of my friends skipped Horizon, TLOU and Spider-Man for various reasons. Spoilers, lack of excitement, already watched lets plays years ago etc.Well then I hope your good with late ports continuing. PC players can't have their cake and eat it too.
PC Game Pass is a pretty good reasonIf there's one non-Steam store that can offer actual value and reason to be its own store, it would be Sony's.
It's simple. What does Sony get out of having cheap day 1 games on Steam instead of their own platform?
It's not just a launcher. It's buying into an ecosystem with its own set of (inferior) policies and practices. Also I don't trust Sony with my library. They took away my copy of PT and they allow other publishers to make installation files inaccessible similar to what Ubisoft did with The Crew on uPlay this week. Valve and GOG are the only companies that I know of that's preventing these kinds of shenanigans. Not on Steam or GOG? No thanks.
At the expense of having Steam take a cut of your sales and people pushed away from your own platform to buy games 🤔. People can download the launcher, they'll be aight lol.
i do like the fact that they said a bunch of things that MS does already.
That's a big justification from their perspective. Enough so that I wouldn't be surprised if they try it.There is no justification for Sony having their own launcher aside from the 30% not being there, that's it. They would not be doing anyone a favor but themselves.
This feels like the constant console gamer mentality to the situation, kind of oblivious to what is actually happening with these stores and platforms on PC where the market and wants of players are so vastly different.
Sony started off on Steam for a reason, and beyond even MS, supported every Steam feature off the bat, natively, with exception of Workshop and Marketplace. They knew to appeal to what that subset of customers prefer. Heck, even Helldivers now only provides its updates and patch notes for the whole game directly on Steam.
It's been demonstrated over and over again, it doesn't work because people prefer the feature set and convenience of the platforms they are already on. In particular with Steam, its well established and supports lots of features people love, so they don't move even for a game on a different store that lacks those. There's a reason why all the old "launchers" are pretty much dead and they've all gone back to Steam, GOG etc. Reaching people where they are, even if Valve takes a cut, is more profitable than going it alone and having to invest and maintain infrastructure and features expected of a the evolving PC platforms.
For Sony to develop a PC platform that would actually attract users, it will take more than just the 0% / 20%-30% cut of Valve when using Steam, to get to a good state, AND then take a lot of time to actually push people over and THEN find ways to retain them there as the other PC platforms just keep adding more value. They'd end up putting in more effort than they do on their own console interface and services. People don't even like using publisher launchers like Battlenet anymore. I'd be amused to see the same kind of struggles Xbox has been having with it's PC offering, which is not doing too well.
That's a big justification from their perspective. Enough so that I wouldn't be surprised if they try it.
They probably know audiences would reject it without any additional benefit, but the benefit they might offer to help make it mutually beneficial would be cross-buy and day-1 releases of major first party single-player games (with Steam still getting versions later). It also keeps them 100% in the Sony ecosystem if the purchases share a PS wallet.
Cross-buy is never happening with a Steam version so whether that customer benefit would be welcomed enough to do well enough in their eyes is questionable.
At the expense of having Steam take a cut of your sales and people pushed away from your own platform to buy games 🤔. People can download the launcher, they'll be aight lol.
Having their own launcher is a win for both camps. Sony doesn't have to worry about the middleman, and players get to play exclusives with unique features attached to that platform day 1.
Not necessarily isolate themselves. They can still be available on other storefronts. By having their own storefront, they can also offer cross-buy or discounts for owning PS5 version of their games. Integrate Plus discounts. Streaming games. Remote play for PS Portal. So many opportunities.
If there's one non-Steam store that can offer actual value and reason to be its own store, it would be Sony's.
Yeah except Activision tried this with Call of Duty and last year they revealed it was a "resounding failure", Microsoft and EA tried it too and came back, Ubisoft is back to bringing their stuff on Steam at a 6 month delay.PC people been begging for PS games to go on PC. If it was between downloading a launcher and missing out entirely on the exclusives, most people outside Era will download the launcher.
Well then I hope your good with late ports continuing. PC players can't have their cake and eat it too.
I would install it for bloodbornea sony pc launcher would bomb even more than an egs one lol. no is buying games from a new launcher for late overpriced ports and inconsistent port quality. only if they add crossbuy could it work
They make more total revenue & profit by giving Valve 20% than they would being exclusive to their own launcher. Which is why after number crunching everyone is coming back to Steam. They also make more profit by releasing ports at the same time and marketing them together instead of marketing one version and then having to market the port afterwards.Well then I hope your good with late ports continuing. PC players can't have their cake and eat it too.
Eh, why introduce this overlay if you're gonna do a launcher?
... I think some of you have wildly different views of Sony's "prestige" status among PC players.
No one is responding to it because it's a stupid question, with an answer already given. I've seen more people on here argue that Steam should operate without any formal competitors.I'll ask this question again since everyone seems to be afraid of answering it:
What is 100% of 0?
What overlay DOESNT have a launcher at this point?Eh, why introduce this overlay if you're gonna do a launcher?
Either way, I'm fine with a launcher as long as the games stay on Steam (despite how many on this forum push for the opposite)