31 games that you need to purchase each one separatedly from the subscription price.That's more expensive than PS Now which people didn't like with a significantly smaller library. Not even all 31 games are included in this, right?
In PS Now you pay the subscription and get 700+ games. In GamePass you pay the subscription and get 100+ games. In Stadia you pay the subscription and get 1 game (Destiny 2, seems they'll add more or change it over time, maybe like in PS+/Gold), if you want one of the other 31 available games on Stadia you have to purchase them separatedly, but you can skip the subscription if not interested on Destiny 2 or in using over 1080p streaming.So how does Stadia compare to PSNow and xbox gamepass?? Anybody on era do a comparison?? So I have to pay $9.99 and buy the games?? Unless Stadia gets exclsuives from Sony or Xbox, prefer PSNow and Gamepass
Yea I wouldn't use it without that controller as I would want the lowest input lag possible. Will be interesting to see the difference between the official controller and the lag of that on one that isn't connected straight to the server.I think it's interesting that the controller connects with the server directly or something like that, so maybe that would help with latency. Hopefully, it will be at E3 so we can get a better idea of what its performance looks like.
You pay monthly a fee.
You have to pay for the game you want to play
Main thing of the system is streaming
600 bucks for 5 years gaming with 4K and for games you have to pay like on consoles.
Yep this is the future if you have a big wallet.
Yeah, not entirely sure. I'm on my PC which is decent and I'm hardwired in not using wifi or anything. I should probably check my laptop away from my modem to see what it's like.
No, you don't have to pay $9.99, Stadia is free for 1080p/30fps/stereo gaming. And it has brand new AAA games, not just old games like those services. And it does have console exclusives.So how does Stadia compare to PSNow and xbox gamepass?? Anybody on era do a comparison?? So I have to pay $9.99 and buy the games?? Unless Stadia gets exclsuives from Sony or Xbox, prefer PSNow and Gamepass
The people that this is marketed towards will mainly want the subscription based model. No gamer is going to want only 1080p, especially with how prevalent 4K TVs are (and cheap).
Oh I agree. OnLive was a half-baked idea that never was fully realized and released at a time when internet connectivity was even worse; that's still not saying much though. I also remember how much a factor connection nodes had as well. So if you didn't live near one, you tended to have higher latency and more input lag. This service might be passable for casual games, but anything like a shooter, or competitive game (i.e. Rocket League), this still won't work until the proper infrastructure is in place, and like I said earlier, I don't see happening in our lifetime.
You think MS will offer new games in a netflix style subscription?Let's check back on Sunday after MS announces details for xCloud.
You think MS will offer new games in a netflix style subscription?
If so we need to talk about this bridge I have to sell : )
Older games, maybe and Google cannot compete with that as Stadia is a brand new platform
gamepass doesnt only have old gamesNo, you don't have to pay $9.99, Stadia is free for 1080p/30fps/stereo gaming. And it has brand new AAA games, not just old games like those services. And it does have console exclusives.
"Forever" is a long time. I think what you're actually going to see is a generation of kids raised in a streaming world, for them this will just be normal and standard, they won't have a view of console gaming in the way you do.
They will probably laugh at the idea of hardwired game consoles one day to be honest, just like if you try to explain the concept of Blockbuster Video to a kid today they'll just look at you with blank stares.
Sounds like it's just for syncing though and specifically for that controller. The Stadia controller connects straight to your wi-fi to reduce input lag so it needs an interface to do that (the app). You can use a regular controller (PS4, Xbox, whatever) as long as it syncs to your device via bluetooth (or plaugs in) and you wouldn't need the app.The key word here was standalone, in that I expected a relatively plug and play user experience.
Not something that requires a phone to set it up.
I mean, they already offer all MS first party in Game Pass for $9.99 so I don't know what you're getting at.
Whoa, what? I'll pre-order now if that's truly the case.I believe people are saying that they only charge when it ships.
I'm taking all new games which seems to be the thought on Stadia. They just created their first party studio so obviously this cannot be offeredI mean, they already offer all MS first party in Game Pass for $9.99 so I don't know what you're getting at.
Maybe, but the market is dictated by many factors than just what kids might want (i.e. people with actual purchasing power), and don't get me wrong streaming games will most likely become the norm, BUT, only when the infrastructure is in place to support it properly. We still don't have proper coverage across North America, never mind the rest of the world.
I disagree about the state of internet. I live way out in the middle of nowhere, and we now have att fiber and the guy who installed it said they were adding it up and down just about every street across my state and neighboring ones. High end fiber connections that go all the way up to 1/1 GB and unlimited data. It's like a revolution of data coming in and now is the time for this change.It's still absolute dog shit, let's be real here. Internet caps still exist, shitty ISPs and shoddy connections still exist, the infrastructure is getting better, and I agree it is better than what it was, especially when OnLive launched. Let's be real here though, we still have a long way to go, and way too many hurdles that need to be looked into. As I mentioned above, connection nodes and input lag is a huge factor in game streaming services. I don't see this panning out beyond casual games.
You think MS will offer new games in a netflix style subscription?
If so we need to talk about this bridge I have to sell : )
Older games, maybe and Google cannot compete with that as Stadia is a brand new platform
The key word here was standalone, in that I expected a relatively plug and play user experience.
Not something that requires a phone to set it up.
I'm taking all new games which seems to be the thought on Stadia. They just created their first party studio so obviously this cannot be offered
Except a successful major technological disruption isn't enough per se, for a shift to happen, there also needs to be a major pricing and/or distribution disruption that will drive adoption."Forever" is a long time. I think what you're actually going to see is a generation of kids raised in a streaming world, for them this will just be normal and standard, they won't have a view of console gaming in the way you do.
They will probably laugh at the idea of hardwired game consoles one day to be honest, just like if you try to explain the concept of Blockbuster Video to a kid today they'll just look at you with blank stares.
This is a supply side view, a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist. I don't remember having to use a mobile app to set up any of the 7 devices connected to my tv.The Controller needs to be set up with something in order to use as it doesn't have a screen. Makes sense Google would use Home.
Controller connects with wifi which connects with the Stadia Server directly.
Lol yea most people tvs are still 1080p
(Since the topic is moving so fast...) have they said anything about the games you get access to for 'free' on Pro. Is it like PSN where once you go to the free model you lose them? They only mention that you keep your paid titles.
Except a successful major technological disruption isn't enough per se, for a shift to happen, there also needs to be a major pricing and/or distribution disruption that will drive adoption.
Right now, they're definitely not there. This is far from ubiquitous at launch, and there's no remarkable incentive in that price structure.
Right now, Microsoft is probably better positioned to make that disruption happen.
Free is 1080p 30fps (not 60).
From the official FAQ
"What is the quality Stadia will stream content at?
Stadia will be able to stream games up to 4K HDR and 60 FPS quality for Stadia Pro subscribers. Non-subscribers can stream games up to 1080p and 30 FPS. Like any other Internet streaming experience, hig
Can somebody alot smarter than me explain this to me and what I'm missing.
speedtest says I have this speed
and google says I have this speed
There seems to be a difference of 220 Mbps?
You get just one game: Destiny 2, and seems they may add more in the future (so maybe they do somehting like PS+). They mention that you keep the games purchased when you stop paying, so I assume that you lose the game(s) you got with the subscription once you stop paying it.(Since the topic is moving so fast...) have they said anything about the games you get access to for 'free' on Pro. Is it like PSN where once you go to the free model you lose them? They only mention that you keep your paid titles.
First party, it is impossible for Google to compete on that front.If it is bundled with PC gamepass, then yeah. All first party games coming out day of release on PC plus the rotating library. I think PC game pass is only 10 bucks. So, better library to start, all first party games coming. For first year or two, I think xbox will have a far better offering. We'll see on Sunday.
Rock solid connection, NO caps and don't mind image quality to be lower. That said, yes, it could work for folks like that and also for people who travel a lot. That's a real winner, especially if Google lets you say stream from UK when you travel there from US and vice-versa.People will undoubtedly shit on the price but you could get like ten YEARS of Stadia for the price of a similarly specced gaming PC. Assuming you have a rock-solid connection and don't really care about offline potential, it's theoretically a good deal.
Again, though, there's a lot of assumptions built into this calculaion, namely a highly stable connection on your end as well as Google's, and the longevity and success of Stadia itself.
You get just one game: Destiny 2, and seems they may add more in the future (so maybe they do somehting like PS+). They mention that you keep the games purchased when you stop paying, so I assume that you lose the game(s) you got with the subscription once you stop paying it.
The subscription sounds more PS+ than PS Now.
First party, it is impossible for Google to compete on that front.
The real competition will be next gen, my understanding is Stadia datacenter servers will be much easier to upgrade
(Since the topic is moving so fast...) have they said anything about the games you get access to for 'free' on Pro. Is it like PSN where once you go to the free model you lose them? They only mention that you keep your paid titles.